Vision Stone 3 Leaking, help please!

[mom2matoskah]

I got my first Vision Stone 3 on April 30 and starting using it rather heavily with a 50PG/50VG mix of Johnson Creek's Dark Cherry and Valencia (Dark Cherry is a fairly dark juice, heavy cherry notes. Valencia is a light juice, with orange, clove, tobacco). I absolutely LOVE the flavor and vapor and throat hit! Unfortunately, the juice has been wreaking havoc on the coil and they have needed cleaning three times already. As a result, I am ordering some DIY juice supplies today. Yesterday, I read that orange juices have caused some problems with other tanks cracking and leaking. Unfortunately, my leak-free VS3 was only leak-free for about 3 or 4 days I get a TON of condensation beneath the drip tip that I have to clean out with a napkin at least 10-12 times a day, possibly due to JC cutting their juice with distilled water and that water evaporating.. cause that is a LOT of condensation!! I also get a LOT of leaking onto the top of my battery from the bottom connector. I even unscrewed it last night to clean it up and watched as a single huge drop came out, pretty as can be, and dropped out. After I read about the orange flavors cracking tanks, I took it all out and cleaned my innards and tank, then replaced it with the only other juice I had handy: Johnson Creek's VG Island flavor, which is basically a Pina Colada but free of orange, cinnamon and other juices that I saw can crack tanks.... bit definitely not something I want for an all-day vape. I went to order some more innards and saw that they are sold out 8-o

Is there anything I can do at home to seal this thing up and make it as glorious as it was right out of the box? I tried the dramamod but I am sad to say that I actually don't have enough heat-resistant things around the house to do the mod, in particular my carto condom was too narrow to fit around the little mouthpeice and thus didn't make a good seal and I couldn't find a good heat resistant replacement I have no idea what is actually causing the leak, if it is coming from the innards or the tank's connection to the innards or any other little tiny piece that could have gotten a tiny crack. I am still using the VS3 at home, where I can easily and quickly clean it up as needed but unfortunately any time I go out, I have to take along a vial of liquid and drip. Luckily, my husband drives when we go out so all I have to do is wait for a red light to drip but still, very annoying! Any tips would be appreciated (on my VS3 issues, not the dripping-on-the-go. LOL)

 

[haft2doit]

Been using the vision stone only since the launch of v1. There seems to be a few causes for what you have going on.

1. Juice is seeping through the fitting at the bottom connector. If you hold it vertical and suck very hard you may see small bubbles getting pulled through the juice. If you do Then the connector may be the culprit. The v3 also unlike the v2,v1 has a different removable inard. The little seal could be a problem. Try removing and reattatching it.

2. The cup/cup seal. There are two holes in the base of the cup. (I havent had much trouble with V3 but previous versions it was a big issue.) This is where the wires pass from the tank into the cup. If there is too much space here juice can be sucked up into the cup and mouthpeice. This can cause exactly what you seem to have happening. Juice gets sucked up there then emptys from the mouthpeice, and flows down the tube and out the bottom connector. If the slits have too much space around the wicks you can get the same thing. With about a half tank of juice, flip the tank over and watch for bubbles rising around the cup. You should be able to see where they are coming from. If you see the coming from the wire holes or the slits you know where you are getting too much juice. One or two bubblkes may not be an issue, but if you see a string of bubbles that is juice filling up the cup.

3. The top of cup meets the mouthpiece. If there isn't a good seal between the seal and the cap when you draw you can pull juice right through to the cap bypassing the cup all together. This can happen if the seal is seated too far down on the cup. (or the whole assembly is shorter than it should be) You could try pulling the seal up and the tightening the cap back down. Also be sure the cap is tightened all the way down. One other thing that could cause all three of these issues is if the airtube is no pressed all the way into the connector. This would mean the seal at the connector may not be tight and the cup seal may not be pressed onto the cup far enough, and the top cap isn't pressing on the seal hard enough. If you look at the connector and more than 1mm or so of the center post is visible below the threads, this may be an issue.

My suggestion is to change things around until you get the vs3 to give dry hits. Then tweak whichever thing did it. ie seating the cup seal, pinching off the wicks... to give you good performance without dry hits or leaking. Sometimes it can be a very thin line between not enough and too much. I'd be willing to bet fiddling with the cup seal may help.

All that said and one thing seems to be true for these. They wick alot! I much prefer too wet then too dry. The stones have always errored on the side of too much. I get a little sputter every once in a while but if you adjust it right you won't have to clear out the cap or blow through it.

Very long winded but I hope it helps. Good luck.

 

[jdmilla]

I agree with everything half2doit said. Having used Vision Stones since V1 as well, most of my leaking/gurgling problems have been related to the silicone seal. This seal needs to be seated properly and pushed down as far as it will go. Sometimes the coil connections can prevent a good seal. Remove the silicone seal and inspect the coil itself. Look at where the external wires connect to the coil. The external wires are wound around the ends of the coil and usually point straight up. These should be centered in the slits in the ceramic cup. If one or both of them are bent toward the center (or outside the ceramic cup) then the silicone seal will not sit down properly and this will cause too much juice to wick into the ceramic cup.

Also check to make sure that the center post is screwed down tight. You can't really turn the post because the wire on the little spring clip won't turn. I use a standard paper clip from the bottom to snug it down. Just insert the paper clip into the slot in the connetor and screw it in like a screwdriver while holding the post. Don't overtighten.

One my current V3's has been working great for about 6 weeks without cleaning or fiddling. But several others have required seating the silicone cup properly. It appears that they will not be making anymore V3 tanks or innards so we may have to migrate to the ViVi Nova when the V3's finally expire.

Hope this helps.

 

[haft2doit]

Yup the cup seal is your best bet. Mine actually had the opposite problem not wicking enough. The cup seal in my case seals too well. So to get it where I want it I just remove the seal position it and use the cap to push it into position as I thread it down. I just don't screw it down all the way and this relieves the pressure on the slits. It's strange but the smallest difference can be night and day for performance.

Aww man I wish they would stick with one product for a while. I really love the V3. It has been perfect for me. The vivi seems to have some problems... Oh well I guess I'll have to figure out how to get the best from it once my v3 finally kicks it.

 

[Katatonik]

I don't have a problem with mine leaking. Maybe once, after filling, I had a small leak, but I just blew it out and it was gone. It can stand on its side or even upside down and won't leak a drop.
My only problem is getting the right angle for the sweet spot. I keep getting dry hits--even after holding it upside down for long periods of time. I've seated the cup as high as possible.

 

[Unspokenzero]

I am having an issue with myne I just got it today, The screw in the bottom that the replacement atty attaches to is bent causing my atty to be crooked in the tank. With this being bent like this I am not getting a good seal on the top cap causing it to leak just a bit mabey a drop or two. Any suggestions?