Vision Vivi Nova V2

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So i just got the Vision Nova V2 in the mail and it is beautiful and amazing but im having some issues. I filled it up with some juice instantly as i was eager to try it out and the first vape was AMAZING, perfect amount of air flow for the draw, perfect taste, just beautiful but its the second time and the third time drawing off of it etc i have an issue with. The tank has liquid in it but nomatter what i do its like its not wicking up any liquid and i find myself having to tip it over every single time i vape off of it and even then that doesn't always remedy the problem..am i doing something wrong?? is this just how this tank is supposed to operate. side note i reset the rubber cap that sits on top of the atomizer and it only helped a slight bit

any help would be much appreciated and im sorry if this kind of thread has already been made i honestly couldn't find anything o and if it helps im using a 2.8ohm atty at 4.5v.

 

[sailorman]

I just got mine the other day. What juice are you using? I'm using 70%VG, so it's pretty thick.
I don't have to tip it every draw, but when it gets below 0.7ml, I have to tip it about every 2nd or third draw.
You can turn it completely upside down for 5 seconds if you need to. It won't leak or flood.

I dunno. Mine's wicking beautifully, considering the juice I vape. I haven't gotten a real dry hit yet.
When you reset the rubber cap, make sure the metal cap is not up at the top of the rubber cap.
The metal cap should be in contact, or very close, to the cup the coil sits in.
IOW, there should be space between the top of the metal cap and the top of the rubber cap.
Make sure your wicks aren't being constricted. The bottom of the rubber cap should be barely touching them.

If you keep having wicking problems, try one of the other heads. There could be something amiss with that particular head. I'm also using the 2.8 at 4.2-4.5V, and the wicks are keeping up very well with it.

[edit] If you are a "vertical vaper", you hold your PV in a vertical position, I can see how you may encounter some problems. I hold mine anywhere from horizontal to 45 degrees. The wicks need to contact the juice for a pretty short time once they are primed, but they do need to contact it at least every other hit or so.

 

[Headphones]

I just got mine the other day. What juice are you using? I'm using 70%VG, so it's pretty thick.
I don't have to tip it every draw, but when it gets below 0.7ml, I have to tip it about every 2nd or third draw.
You can turn it completely upside down for 5 seconds if you need to. It won't leak or flood.

I dunno. Mine's wicking beautifully, considering the juice I vape. I haven't gotten a real dry hit yet.
When you reset the rubber cap, make sure the metal cap is not up on at the top of the rubber cap.
The metal cap should be in contact, or very close, to the cup the coil sits in.
IOW, there should be space between the top of the metal cap and the top of the rubber cap.
Make sure your wicks aren't being constricted. The bottom of the rubber cap should be barely touching them.

If you keep having wicking problems, try one of the other heads. There could be something amiss with that particular head. I'm also using the 2.8 at 4.2-4.5V, and the wicks are keeping up very well with it.

thats so weird..i wonder whats goin on..the juice im using is a 80pg/20vg mix i believe and its from halo..its super thin. the first vape i took was full of flavor and insane clouds of vapor the second one just burnt and now no flavor and little vapor..when i reset the rubber cap i basically just pulled it off then put it back on but just barely, put the cap on top of it and then screwed it down. dont know if thats proper or how to tell if its doing what you said it shouldn't but ill try a differnt one and see what happens

it looks like the rubber cap is touching the wick but it shard to tell

 

[denali_41]

try unraveling the wicks,,and that cap has a notch on each side that sits over the wicks

 

[sailorman]

The rubber cap should be all the way down to where it touches the wick but doesn't mash it. IIRC, there's a little ridge on the stem to indicate where the bottom of the rubber tube goes. The top of the rubber tube doesn't go into the lid, so it's kind of hard to screw it up. The lid will push it down to the correct position. Make sure the little metal cap is in the right spot though.

I just jacked my voltage up to 4.5V. It did start tasting a little burned, but I think that's just the juice since it didn't do that with some other juice I used yesterday. For some reason, these heads do seem sensitive to voltage changes. I can't wait to recoil one at 3-3.5ohms.

 

[sailorman]

try unraveling the wicks,,and that cap has a notch on each side that sits over the wicks

Fluffing the wicks might help, but these don't have notches in the rubber cap like other Vision products. The rubber cap is nothing but a straight silicone tube. Now upside down or right side up. No top or bottom.

 

[denali_41]

ooooooooops..for some reason i was thinking vision stone 2..my bad

 

[Headphones]

well i tried everything, switched out the attys too and nothing seems to work..im completely baffled as to whats going on. everyone else seems to be fine but not mine. as far as i know everything is screwed on properly, im not vapeing it vertically but horizontally, liquid is completely covering the wick when i do but still nothing..will the attys for the original nova work on this? because i will buy those and since they have a longer wick it will probably work

or will any kind of atomizer wick work with this? i was watching a video and it doesnt seem to differcult to change the wick so maybe ill give that a shot.

I just saw something about a design flaw in the original vivi nova causing it to burn the rubber gasket that covers the atty wire and it causing a burned rubber taste..well i think that's happening with mine even tho its the V2 as it has an off taste and i am kinda worried about my health now. dont want to be inhaling burnt rubber

 

[Felix123]

I bought 2 of them, they seem to work perfectly... using one of them for 5-6 hours now.. love it!
Sorry, i wouldnt know how to help you, but sure hope your issues is fixed.

 

[Headphones]

I bought 2 of them, they seem to work perfectly... using one of them for 5-6 hours now.. love it!
Sorry, i wouldnt know how to help you, but sure hope your issues is fixed.

no offense and hopefully you can understand but id like have comments that help rather than comments telling me how great theirs is and that it works flawlessly for them , considering this is such a frustrating situation and that mine isnt working..glad that yours is working tho

 

[Felix123]

i understand that your upset, i am also dealing with issues with other things concerning vaping and product.
I dont think jumping at me like that will help. But i will be nice to you.. I have bought 2 and used 1..Ill give you the other one as a gift..that makes you feel better?

 

[sailorman]

well i tried everything, switched out the attys too and nothing seems to work..im completely baffled as to whats going on. everyone else seems to be fine but not mine. as far as i know everything is screwed on properly, im not vapeing it vertically but horizontally, liquid is completely covering the wick when i do but still nothing..will the attys for the original nova work on this? because i will buy those and since they have a longer wick it will probably work

or will any kind of atomizer wick work with this? i was watching a video and it doesnt seem to differcult to change the wick so maybe ill give that a shot.

I just saw something about a design flaw in the original vivi nova causing it to burn the rubber gasket that covers the atty wire and it causing a burned rubber taste..well i think that's happening with mine even tho its the V2 as it has an off taste and i am kinda worried about my health now. dont want to be inhaling burnt rubber

The V1 heads will work. There are vids on youtube showing how to change the wick and coil in the V1. It's the same process in V2, except there is an additional tube of silica or fiberglass or something surrounding the coil.
There is a vid of how to change the coil from silica to cotton as well. The guy claims it makes a huge difference in flavor, but he was using a V1, so I wouldn't expect such a drastic improvement with the V2. It's pretty good as-is.

You can also recoil them and use non-resistive wire for the leads coming from the coil. That will eliminate the heating up that caused the charring on the rubber gasket that was evident in the V1. The reports I've seen indicate that this isn't a problem in the V2. It might have something to do with the new part in the head, but I don't know. I don't think it's that serious or widespread anyway. Charring and melting are two different things and I haven't heard of any actual melting going on. I guess I'll find out when I dis-assemble mine because I fully intend to recoil these heads.

If you're getting an "off" taste, it's probably due to the wicking problem you're having. If you were vaping burnt rubber, you'd recognize it as rubber. Could it be that your coils are too low a resistance? Do you have a meter to check them? Mine are coming in about 0.3ohms higher than marked, but I prefer them higher. Maybe I got your ohms.

And, yeah. You can use any regular atomizer wick. Unless you're going to use cotton, standard 2mm dia. will do fine.

One more possibility. Where did you get your Vivi Nova? Vision is probably the most counterfeited product in the vaping world. There are knockoffs all over the place. The same thing happened with the Vision Stone 3 tanks and they worked terrible compared to the real ones. AFAIK, Madvapes was the only large vendor who got the V2s in the U.S.. Gotvapes hasn't even gotten them yet and they worked with Vision on the V2. They've been all over Europe though.

 

[sailorman]

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it looks like the rubber cap is touching the wick but it shard to tell

This right here makes me suspicious. There IS no rubber cap on the V2 that could possibly look like it's touching the coil.
The coil is completely enclosed, first by a fiberglass or silica tube, then by metal. The rubber cap is only a tube. There is no rubber above the coil, and the cap is insulated from the coil by two layers, one metal and one fiberglass. The top of the cap/tube is another separate metal piece. The cap/tube fits on the outside of the metal cup that contains the coil.

On the V1, the rubber/silicone cap was like a carto condom. There was a closed end that sat above the coil. There was a metal piece that insulated the rubber closed end from the coil, but it was a closed end with a hole in the rubber/silicone. If you looked at it, you could conceivably think that the coil could heat the closed end of the cap. That is not the case with the V2. Only metal is in any proximity to the coil. No rubber/silicone at all.

When you take your cap off the head, is it an open ended tube, or does it look like a carto condom with a hole in the closed end?

 

[Headphones]

The V1 heads will work. There are vids on youtube showing how to change the wick and coil in the V1. It's the same process in V2, except there is an additional tube of silica or fiberglass or something surrounding the coil.
There is a vid of how to change the coil from silica to cotton as well. The guy claims it makes a huge difference in flavor, but he was using a V1, so I wouldn't expect such a drastic improvement with the V2. It's pretty good as-is.

You can also recoil them and use non-resistive wire for the leads coming from the coil. That will eliminate the heating up that caused the charring on the rubber gasket that was evident in the V1. The reports I've seen indicate that this isn't a problem in the V2. It might have something to do with the new part in the head, but I don't know. I don't think it's that serious or widespread anyway. Charring and melting are two different things and I haven't heard of any actual melting going on. I guess I'll find out when I dis-assemble mine because I fully intend to recoil these heads.

If you're getting an "off" taste, it's probably due to the wicking problem you're having. If you were vaping burnt rubber, you'd recognize it as rubber. Could it be that your coils are too low a resistance? Do you have a meter to check them? Mine are coming in about 0.3ohms higher than marked, but I prefer them higher. Maybe I got your ohms.

And, yeah. You can use any regular atomizer wick. Unless you're going to use cotton, standard 2mm dia. will do fine.

One more possibility. Where did you get your Vivi Nova? Vision is probably the most counterfeited product in the vaping world. There are knockoffs all over the place. The same thing happened with the Vision Stone 3 tanks and they worked terrible compared to the real ones. AFAIK, Madvapes was the only large vendor who got the V2s in the U.S.. Gotvapes hasn't even gotten them yet and they worked with Vision on the V2. They've been all over Europe though.

Sorry i probably used the wrong choice of words there. When i unscrew the top of the tank it looks like there is a carto condom sitting on top and inside of the carto condom is like a metal washer of some sorts and below that is a tiny edge surrounding the entire atty that looks to keep the carto condom from touching the fiberglass wick. (random note here but when i touched the wick massive amounts of it were coming out, its like they kinda just shredded up a wick and stuffed it in there not fully securing it don't know if that's normal or not). Thank you for letting me know that the V1 heads will work on this, im gonna order some tonight and also thank you for reassuring me about the off taste and that its not burned or melted rubber. The place that i got my nova from is madvapes and on the subject of ohms i checked the ohms on my provari and the one rated at 4.0 ohms actually came in at 2.8 so i kinda turned down the volts a bit but still no change in performance or taste.

Thank you for all this helpful info this is great ! and now i just gotta find a vendor that sells wicks haha. sorry if this post was all over the place its been a long day and ive yet to sleep so im a bit out of it.

Side note: Its now producing a ton of vapor but it just doesn't taste at all like my liquid nor is the throat hit there..it seems like the wick is getting choked and im almost 100% certain of it but if that's true then why am i getting so much vapor and while i get a weird taste in my mouth its not that acrid taste you get when you forget to drip into the atty

 

[sanman969]

I find that, throughout the day, the pressure builds up a bit. Unscrewing and then screwing the top back in seems to help.

 

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I find that, throughout the day, the pressure builds up a bit. Unscrewing and then screwing the top back in seems to help.

well thank you for the helpful comment im not sure that the problem is pressure tho as this issue is happening as soon as i put the cap back on

 

[sailorman]

... The place that i got my nova from is madvapes and on the subject of ohms i checked the ohms on my provari and the one rated at 4.0 ohms actually came in at 2.8 so i kinda turned down the volts a bit but still no change in performance or taste.
Thank you for all this helpful info this is great ! and now i just gotta find a vendor that sells wicks haha. sorry if this post was all over the place its been a long day and ive yet to sleep so im a bit out of it.
Side note: Its now producing a ton of vapor but it just doesn't taste at all like my liquid nor is the throat hit there..it seems like the wick is getting choked and im almost 100% certain of it but if that's true then why am i getting so much vapor and while i get a weird taste in my mouth its not that acrid taste you get when you forget to drip into the atty

O.K., Madvapes has been shipping V2s. I'm assuming you got one with the short wicks? You might have mentioned that, but I forgot. There are no heads rated at 4.0 ohms though. There was supposed to be a 2.8, 2.4 and 1.8ohm head. They metered a bit high, about 0.3ohms, on my meter. The wick under the coil should look fairly tidy. At least mine do. That might be a problem if it's not holding enough juice for long enough.

CloudsOfVapor sells wick, but they're always out. There's an ebay seller who sells it for a couple bucks a foot. Search for "silica wick". Also another seller that sells 32 and 34 ga. Kanthal wire in 30' spools for $8 shipped. There are other vaping vendors that sell it I'm sure, but I haven't had a lot of luck finding them. The folks in the modders or equipment forums would know.

I'm not totally convinced you got the V2 instead of the V1 though. You say your cap looks like a carto condom. It shouldn't. It should look like just a tube. You should be able to put it on either upside down or right side up. Thre is no top or bottom and neither end is closed. The metal piece that fits inside is just a loose piece. Also, in the V1 the air holes are in the knurled edge of the bottom cap of the tank. In the V2, the air holes are in the battery connection, just above the threads. Where are your air holes?

 

[Headphones]

O.K., Madvapes has been shipping V2s. I'm assuming you got one with the short wicks? You might have mentioned that, but I forgot. There are no heads rated at 4.0 ohms though. There was supposed to be a 2.8, 2.4 and 1.8ohm head. They metered a bit high, about 0.3ohms, on my meter. The wick under the coil should look fairly tidy. At least mine do. That might be a problem if it's not holding enough juice for long enough.

CloudsOfVapor sells wick, but they're always out. There's an ebay seller who sells it for a couple bucks a foot. Search for "silica wick". Also another seller that sells 32 and 34 ga. Kanthal wire in 30' spools for $8 shipped. There are other vaping vendors that sell it I'm sure, but I haven't had a lot of luck finding them. The folks in the modders or equipment forums would know.

I'm not totally convinced you got the V2 instead of the V1 though. You say your cap looks like a carto condom. It shouldn't. It should look like just a tube. You should be able to put it on either upside down or right side up. Thre is no top or bottom and neither end is closed. The metal piece that fits inside is just a loose piece. Also, in the V1 the air holes are in the knurled edge of the bottom cap of the tank. In the V2, the air holes are in the battery connection, just above the threads. Where are your air holes?

OOPS sorry i dont know why i wrote 4.0ohms lol yeah there is no atty that i have rated at 4.0ohms all of them are the ohms you mentioned. As for the wick under the coil they look fairly tidy but i noticed that there is plastic tubing that looks like it might be to keep the positive end of the wire away from the sides and it seems to be that the wick is jetting out of holes on the side of that tubeing which could be attributing to the wick being choked. the air holes on my tank are above the threads that connect to the battery and the piece of rubber that holds that metal washer does look like a carto condom but it has an open end and bottom so you can put it on from either side

 

[sailorman]

O.k., that's definitely a V2. That tubing that surrounds the wick is new. It's longer than it looks actually. It looks like it's made of thin, woven fiberglass, but it may be silica. You may be seeing the edges of it, which are not perfectly smooth. I'm not sure what it's for. Nobody has figured it out so far, but it doesn't seem to be an impediment to recoiling the head. There are slots in the side of that tube and it's pretty thin and flexible, so I don't know it could be choking the wick.

Go to the Gotvapes forum in the vendor section. There is a thread there on the V1 that's about 95 pages long. Skip to about page 70 and start reading. It will be quite enlightening and may answer some of your questions. There is also a picture someone posted of his atomizer head after he disassembled it. You can see what that tube actually is.

Here. I'll save you some time: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gotvapes/292476-vivi-nova-v1-review-thread-70.html

 

[Headphones]

O.k., that's definitely a V2. That tubing that surrounds the wick is new. It's longer than it looks actually. It looks like it's made of thin, woven fiberglass, but it may be silica. You may be seeing the edges of it, which are not perfectly smooth. I'm not sure what it's for. Nobody has figured it out so far, but it doesn't seem to be an impediment to recoiling the head. There are slots in the side of that tube and it's pretty thin and flexible, so I don't know it could be choking the wick.

Go to the Gotvapes forum in the vendor section. There is a thread there on the V1 that's about 95 pages long. Skip to about page 70 and start reading. It will be quite enlightening and may answer some of your questions. There is also a picture someone posted of his atomizer head after he disassembled it. You can see what that tube actually is.

Here. I'll save you some time: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gotvapes/292476-vivi-nova-v1-review-thread-70.html

wow seriously thank you so much for taking so much time out of your day to help me. you have been awesome and i owe you one!! thank you thank you!