Vision Vivi Nova?

[metalXcore]

Hey guys,
I purchased my second Vivi Nova last year and it broke within 3 weeks of use. I was vaping on my older one today and was thinking about how much better quality it was than the newer version I had purchased, and I then realized that I had no clue if the one that broke was authentic. Can anyone identify if the pictured Vivi is authentic?

Note: I never dropped, tampered with, or overtightened the device during its 3 week lifespan. The crack on the center post formed within the first week and the bottom threading randomly falling off put the nail in the coffin.

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[Stosh]

The box looks totally different from any I've received (I have 5 of them) and none of mine have the laser etching on the bottom. Three of mine are about a year and a half old, maybe a bit more, and 2 I purchased a couple months ago. Only problem I've had was breaking a tank by dropping my mod tank first on a hard surface.

What does the coil assembly look like, the Vision are different from any other clones I've seen.

 

[metalXcore]

I will take some comparison shots of it next to my other that I believe to be authentic and another I purchased at a nearby gas station that I thought was an obvious fake

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[KODIAK (TM)]

It looks right to me. And honestly, were it a clone I don't know why the maker would put Vision's website on their packaging. I have a bucket full of Vivi Nova's. I think they're crap but that's just me.

 

[InTheShade]

That laser etching is weird, but it looks genuine to me from the box. The clones tended to not have the color printing on the V of Vision.

Smok made a version of the vivi nova as well as a bunch of other manufacturers. I think Vivi nova is almost regarded as a type of tank rather than a tank from a specific manufacturer. That said, I've had the best results when using a genuine Vison VN in metal for durability.

The easiest way to tell a smok (or most clones) apart is that they have a pointed piece on top of the coil assembly. The Visions have a flat top.

As for performance, there is nothing I can't do with my vivi's. I've beaten, bent, hammered and cussed those things into performing excellently. Once you learn the basics of how they work and what to do if it all goes wrong, they provide a pretty darn good vape.

I'm going to go bust out my silver metal vivi right now for old times sake.

 

[ScottP]

Post a pic of the heads. That is the best way to spot a clone.

 

[metalXcore]

Sorry for the spam of additional pictures here, just wanted to be detailed in the event someone else needs to know the differences between these for some reason.

The only differences between the presumed (real?) and (?) are the etching on the bottom of the tank and the obvious visual differences on the box. The (fake) one I only purchased because I thought I could just swap the center post to the other Nova. After figuring out the every part was completely different from the other two, I used my trusty ingenuity to rip out the center post with pliers in an attempt to "fix" the other- effectively leaving me down 2 tanks instead of one -_-

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[metalXcore]

That laser etching is weird, but it looks genuine to me from the box. The clones tended to not have the color printing on the V of Vision.

Smok made a version of the vivi nova as well as a bunch of other manufacturers. I think Vivi nova is almost regarded as a type of tank rather than a tank from a specific manufacturer. That said, I've had the best results when using a genuine Vison VN in metal for durability.

The easiest way to tell a smok (or most clones) apart is that they have a pointed piece on top of the coil assembly. The Visions have a flat top.

As for performance, there is nothing I can't do with my vivi's. I've beaten, bent, hammered and cussed those things into performing excellently. Once you learn the basics of how they work and what to do if it all goes wrong, they provide a pretty darn good vape.

I'm going to go bust out my silver metal vivi right now for old times sake.

I was unaware of Smok's model, but I think you are right in presuming the Vivi Nova is more a classification rather than a specific brand as my "fake" model was only labeled Vivi Nova instead of VISION Vivi Nova. The one labeled fake also has a different size head, which also makes the center post a different size so I assume it is a clone model.

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[ScottP]

The left two are Vision brand, the one on the right is not. If you look at the heads, the fakes have a metal point/cone on top. The originals have flat rubber tops.

 

[metalXcore]

The left two are Vision brand, the one on the right is not. If you look at the heads, the fakes have a metal point/cone on top. The originals have flat rubber tops.

Ya, that makes sense to me. Not saying that Vision's Vivi Novas are godlike, but I had much higher expectations for the build quality of my newer model Vision model than the 3 weeks I got from it which is why the authenticity question came about. One other note, I did a quick search for the "Official Vision Vivi Nova" webpage and found http://www.visioncig.com , but the website printed on the box in question is http://www.visionecig.com/ . Are these both legit?

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[InTheShade]

The left two are Vision brand, the one on the right is not. If you look at the heads, the fakes have a metal point/cone on top. The originals have flat rubber tops.

I'm still not convinced that middle set is genuine. It certainly looks like it with the box markings and everything else, but I've never seen a box presentation with that cut out for the clearo. I'm not saying it's a fake, but I've bought a few of these (and researched many more) and never seen a box like that before.

Still, even the plastic genuine VN's did suffer from stress fractures. The metal tank VN's have all metal parts and are much more durable.

EDIT - Just had a really good look at the photo's. Notice on the center VN, the clearo tank has no surround around the 510 connector. I'm pretty sure this is a clone. I admit it could just be a later model, or a genuine model manufactured in a different plant. So I suppose the real question might be is there such a thing as a genuine Vision Vivia Nova?

 

[metalXcore]

I'm still not convinced that middle set is genuine. It certainly looks like it with the box markings and everything else, but I've never seen a box presentation with that cut out for the clearo. I'm not saying it's a fake, but I've bought a few of these (and researched many more) and never seen a box like that before.

Still, even the plastic genuine VN's did suffer from stress fractures. The metal tank VN's have all metal parts and are much more durable.

EDIT - Just had a really good look at the photo's. Notice on the center VN, the clearo tank has no surround around the 510 connector. I'm pretty sure this is a clone.

Well, the part of the bottom you are referring to in the photo is the part that just randomly fell off. That and the crack in the center post are whats making me suspicious. It literally looked like that threading that fell off was gorilla glued on lol!

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[InTheShade]

Well, the part of the bottom you are referring to in the photo is the part that just randomly fell off. That and the crack in the center post are whats making me suspicious. It literally looked like that threading that fell off was gorilla glued on lol!

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Nah, Gorilla glue is too expensive. Most likely some clone copy of Gorilla glue.

 

[metalXcore]

Nah, Gorilla glue is too expensive. Most likely some clone copy of Gorilla glue.

Probably ha! The hobbyist in me wants to somehow repair that to make it work again but I can not figure out a clean way to do it for the life of me!

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[ScottP]

Ya, that makes sense to me. Not saying that Vision's Vivi Novas are godlike, but I had much higher expectations for the build quality of my newer model Vision model than the 3 weeks I got from it which is why the authenticity question came about. One other note, I did a quick search for the "Official Vision Vivi Nova" webpage and found Vision Electronic Cigarette, Original Manufacturers , but the website printed on the box in question is Vision Electronic Cigarette . Are these both legit?

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No idea which web site is which.

 

[Stosh]

Ya, that makes sense to me. Not saying that Vision's Vivi Novas are godlike, but I had much higher expectations for the build quality of my newer model Vision model than the 3 weeks I got from it which is why the authenticity question came about. One other note, I did a quick search for the "Official Vision Vivi Nova" webpage and found Vision Electronic Cigarette, Original Manufacturers , but the website printed on the box in question is Vision Electronic Cigarette . Are these both legit?

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I did a couple Whois lookups on these sites and they both seem legit and point to:

Registrant City: shenzhen
Registrant State/Province: guangdong
Registrant Postal Code: 518001
Registrant Country: China

If one is a site from a clone factory, it's next door to the Vision plant.


From the pictures the one on the left looks genuine, the one on the right is a knock off, and the one in the center may also be genuine Vision but "made on a Monday morning or Friday afternoon". Even with genuine products, quality control can be....umm, less than desired, particularly for what may be considered a disposable, consumable product.

 

[metalXcore]

I did a couple Whois lookups on these sites and they both seem legit and point to:


If one is a site from a clone factory, it's next door to the Vision plant.


From the pictures the one on the left looks genuine, the one on the right is a knock off, and the one in the center may also be genuine Vision but "made on a Monday morning or Friday afternoon". Even with genuine products, quality control can be....umm, less than desired, particularly for what may be considered a disposable, consumable product.

I think you are right. Now if I could just figure out where I'm going wrong rebuilding the head of the one that still works lol. Thanks for everyones help!

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[Stosh]

Here's the step by step re-build I've always used....Rebuilding a Vivi Nova | VAPE News Magazine

 

[Robino1]

Genuine Vivi Nova's are Vision Vivi Nova. The term Vivi nova to encompass that type of setup came about because, at the time, these were the hot item and started getting cloned. Vendors that sell the genuine state on their site that it is the genuine article.

The left is definitely the real one, the one on the right is definitely a fake. The center is very iffy in that the box is totally off of what they normally come in. It almost looks counterfeit. Counterfeit is different from clones in the fact that they are identical to the original. Clones have features that are different from the original, such as that pointy head assembly, and are easily spotted as clones.

The fact that the website, shown on the box, has that extra e can lead one to believe that it is counterfeit.

Just my uneducated musings.