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+1 on the slot mod, needs to be bigger, I use a file, only way I can see cotton working
Agreed, good info. I got my Vivi Mini about a month ago and I really haven't been blown away at the way it functions. At a certain point in the beginning I DID have to keep the voltage down to avoid a burning flavor. Thankfully the burning flavor passed and I can use the stock 2.4 ohm head at 4.5 volts, but I still get an inkling of the burning flavor sometimes.
Actually, the most depressing thing about this tank atomizer setup is the fact that it mutes the flavor of my juices. I am looking around and deciding which modifications I want to do first.
I think I may star with opening up the sluts that the wicks are in, as I've already shortened and fluffed the wicks (which DOES help wicking action), and I use 70/30 PG juice.
Actually, the most depressing thing about this tank atomizer setup is the fact that it mutes the flavor of my juices. I am looking around and deciding which modifications I want to do first.
I think I may star with opening up the sluts that the wicks are in, as I've already shortened and fluffed the wicks (which DOES help wicking action), and I use 70/30 PG juice.
I recently got one of the new Vivi Nova Mini tanks, and while I was pleasantly surprised at the overall quality of the unit, I kept having issues with the stock 2.4 ohm head not being able to go past 3-3.1v on my YJ Chrome Varitube. I literally couldn't use it on my VV box mod, which has a lowest setting of 4v. Basically, I got "burning atty" taste at anything past 3 volts, and even then, a full-length draw would sometimes result in the same effect.
I found out what is causing the problem- AND how to fix it in 5 minutes or less! I posted this in another part of the forum where there was already a discussion about this going on (because I originally thought it was my Chrome tube causing the problem), but I figured this should get more exposure... so here goes nothing...
First you need to disassemble the unit. Remove the top cap, the tank itself, and the center post/bottom cap from the atomizer head assembly. Then, remove the small silicone washer from the top of the atty head. Take care not to lose the metal washer inside the silicone washer- it IS important! After that, examine your atomizer from the top, looking in:
Inside the guts of the atty head, there are three things: the wicks and the coil are the first two (obviously), and this doughnut/sleeve of fiber cloth-like material around the inside of the post. On my 2.4 ohm head that was giving me problems, the cloth-like material had obvious brown burns on it, and it didn't look like it was doing anything in particular, except possibly causing the source of the burning taste- so I carefully used a new pair of nail scissors to cut it in half, and a pair of tweezers to coax the pieces out between the coil. Be aware that if you mess up and pull on that coil, you may end up breaking or pulling the coil wires, in which case you'll need to replace the coil/wick assembly (which on these is apparently quite easy to do, if you have the materials at hand).
I went ahead and started vaping at 3.5v on the Chrome tube mod, and immediately I could tell that it was working much, much better than it had previously- not only was there no more burnt taste at all, but the flavor seems to come through much cleaner in general. After this, I incrementally turned up the power on the mod all the way up to 4.5v (we'll call it 8.3-8.4 watts est), and at that highest level of 4.5v, I *finally* got a bit of a burnt taste, but it was the juice this time- not the atomizer assembly.
So for anyone else out there who is having issues with your Nova tanks not tasting well at your preferred voltage, this is THE definitive fix that I've found. Remember, these are also really, really easy to rebuild (if you have the dexterity to do so), and so if you intend to learn how to wrap your own coils or are thinking about it, I might suggest modding one of yours as explained above so that you can gain an understanding of what the inside of an atty is like, and also the dexterity involved. I personally have not replaced my own coils and wicks yet, but after examining and modding this one, I've decided to go ahead and buy some Kanthal and wicking material so that I can try my hand at it. It actually looks kind of fun...Imho.
Ymmv. Don't blame me if you mess up your stock coil attempting this- I would NOT recommend trying to pull out the fiber sleeve without cutting it in half first, as you will *most likely* destroy your coil!
Happy Vaping, hope this helps anyone else having the same problems!
Note: I have no idea whether or not the regular Vivi Nova's have the same atty assembly as the Mini. if they do, or at least of they have that same fiber material in them, this would also work on those to help with any burnt taste.
Update: I have received more info on the purpose of the "sleeve" in question: Apparently, it serves to insulate the atty wires from shorting out on the center post. Please be very careful to make sure not to disturb the wires while attempting this mod.
With that being said, I have had absolutely no problems thus far with the modded atty. It works fantastically, and I wholeheartedly recommend this mod, even with the knowledge that it may make it a little less safe than it was with the burny sleeve in there. After all, my tank system would be completely useless if I wouldn't have done this- so I feel it's better to have a well-working tank that I need to use with a bit more caution.
I even removed the silicon tube,better vap again,just kee
p the machine upright,try it and report back.
THANK U!!! V Ninja!!!!!!! I bought the Vivi Nova & the mini cuz I heard good things and they were just sittin in my bin wasting away cuz I didnt like them all because of that burnt taste I kept gettin. I just did what u suggested to both of mine and problem solved!!! Now I see why people love there nova's so much, they are actually a good lil device! I will definiely get some use out of them now... Thanx again OP!
I agree completely with the OP on DCT's, they perform mucho better than these Vivis that I have spent hours with trying to get a consistant vape. If its not burnt its not wicking, if its not leaking the stock atty is not working like it should. I have had 2 tanks work with 70/30 juice quite well in the last year until I cleaned it and the taste even with new atty's is not what it should be. I have re wicked with cotton and no better. I feel like I am chasing the dragon as I know what it is capable of. I have brand new ones in boxes that I just dont want to mess with ever again.
I will stick with what works, dripping and the new and improved DCT's with the locking rings and put the Vivis in my - one day I am going to blow all the
sh t up that I wasted money on closet.
Do any of the mfg companies employee any vapors? I wonder this often.
GL All!
I will stick with what works, dripping and the new and improved DCT's with the locking rings and put the Vivis in my - one day I am going to blow all the
sh t up that I wasted money on closet.
Do any of the mfg companies employee any vapors? I wonder this often.
GL All!
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UPDATE: I just went back to a 1.8 coil head on my 3.5 nova tank and its way better than a 2.8 head,nice clean taste and great vapour.
It's the Nova's fault. Not his juice.
If this Nova is so hallowed, why does everyone have to paint themselves into a corner with what juices they can use with it? Psh, I say, to the Nova.
wut. I know a little and it is not the juice my northern neighbor.
I just got my vision vivi nova mini. I tried it out of the box and got the same results, when I took out that little sleeve it was much better. I still feel like the coil isn't getting enough juice to it because sometimes It taste like its at 50% flavor. I've used these liquids in other atomizers and I know how strong they taste. Before I start drilling or whatever on the thing I just wanted to ask if anyone else had this or had a fix for it.
I just removed the inside sheathing or whatever it's called and what a difference..
I was going to the vape store tomorrow anyways to buy another Vivi and some heads, So I figured I'd give this a try before going and man what a difference.. no more burnt taste for me..
Using the 2.8 @ 4.5
will give it a go on the others
she's blow'n clouds without the burnt taste. and I can really enjoy my juice now.
I was going to the vape store tomorrow anyways to buy another Vivi and some heads, So I figured I'd give this a try before going and man what a difference.. no more burnt taste for me..
Using the 2.8 @ 4.5
will give it a go on the others
she's blow'n clouds without the burnt taste. and I can really enjoy my juice now.
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All of my nova's are now gone- but, with all of the rebuilding, fiddling, taking apart, more rebuilding, more fiddling...etc that I did, there's no way I would waste one more minute on these things
I do like the T3's though...
If I wasn't an RBA freak, I would use the Kangers all day long (until I got a bad batch of those, too...like everyone has been talking about :/ )Again, I'll say this: Whatever works for YOU, keep doing it! If Nova's are the best thing for you, then that's what you should stick with until you find something better. Vaping>Smoking.
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I am SO glad that some of you have found the info in my OP helpful! Obviously, that little ring of fibers was one component that made my Vivi's perform badly. However, I do not recommend these devices any longer due to all of the issues I went through with them. You can see all of the issues, fixes, rebuilds, and basically my entire journey with this tank system at these links:
Ninja Vapes: The Vivi Nova Story Part I
Ninja Vapes: The Vivi Nova Story Part II- Rebuilding In-Depth
This is a thread I started when I thought it was the Lavatube's fault, not the Vivi Nova. It turns out, it WAS the Vivi Nova after all, but the thread died before I found out.
Also, there used to be a thread in the tank systems called something like "My vivi nova sucks, please help!!" where I did a lot of posting and postulating, many months ago. lol.
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However, if not for my bad experiences with the Vivi Nova's, I might have never gotten into RBA's! So really, the Vivi Nova tank system was one of the best things that ever happened to me. Without it, Ninja Vapes wouldn't be what it is today!
I recently got one of the new Vivi Nova Mini tanks, and while I was pleasantly surprised at the overall quality of the unit, I kept having issues with the stock 2.4 ohm head not being able to go past 3-3.1v on my YJ Chrome Varitube. I literally couldn't use it on my VV box mod, which has a lowest setting of 4v. Basically, I got "burning atty" taste at anything past 3 volts, and even then, a full-length draw would sometimes result in the same effect.
I found out what is causing the problem- AND how to fix it in 5 minutes or less! I posted this in another part of the forum where there was already a discussion about this going on (because I originally thought it was my Chrome tube causing the problem), but I figured this should get more exposure... so here goes nothing...
First you need to disassemble the unit. Remove the top cap, the tank itself, and the center post/bottom cap from the atomizer head assembly. Then, remove the small silicone washer from the top of the atty head. Take care not to lose the metal washer inside the silicone washer- it IS important! After that, examine your atomizer from the top, looking in:
Inside the guts of the atty head, there are three things: the wicks and the coil are the first two (obviously), and this doughnut/sleeve of fiber cloth-like material around the inside of the post. On my 2.4 ohm head that was giving me problems, the cloth-like material had obvious brown burns on it, and it didn't look like it was doing anything in particular, except possibly causing the source of the burning taste- so I carefully used a new pair of nail scissors to cut it in half, and a pair of tweezers to coax the pieces out between the coil. Be aware that if you mess up and pull on that coil, you may end up breaking or pulling the coil wires, in which case you'll need to replace the coil/wick assembly (which on these is apparently quite easy to do, if you have the materials at hand).
I went ahead and started vaping at 3.5v on the Chrome tube mod, and immediately I could tell that it was working much, much better than it had previously- not only was there no more burnt taste at all, but the flavor seems to come through much cleaner in general. After this, I incrementally turned up the power on the mod all the way up to 4.5v (we'll call it 8.3-8.4 watts est), and at that highest level of 4.5v, I *finally* got a bit of a burnt taste, but it was the juice this time- not the atomizer assembly.
So for anyone else out there who is having issues with your Nova tanks not tasting well at your preferred voltage, this is THE definitive fix that I've found. Remember, these are also really, really easy to rebuild (if you have the dexterity to do so), and so if you intend to learn how to wrap your own coils or are thinking about it, I might suggest modding one of yours as explained above so that you can gain an understanding of what the inside of an atty is like, and also the dexterity involved. I personally have not replaced my own coils and wicks yet, but after examining and modding this one, I've decided to go ahead and buy some Kanthal and wicking material so that I can try my hand at it. It actually looks kind of fun...Imho.
Ymmv. Don't blame me if you mess up your stock coil attempting this- I would NOT recommend trying to pull out the fiber sleeve without cutting it in half first, as you will *most likely* destroy your coil!
Happy Vaping, hope this helps anyone else having the same problems!
Note: I have no idea whether or not the regular Vivi Nova's have the same atty assembly as the Mini. if they do, or at least of they have that same fiber material in them, this would also work on those to help with any burnt taste.
Update: I have received more info on the purpose of the "sleeve" in question: Apparently, it serves to insulate the atty wires from shorting out on the center post. Please be very careful to make sure not to disturb the wires while attempting this mod.
With that being said, I have had absolutely no problems thus far with the modded atty. It works fantastically, and I wholeheartedly recommend this mod, even with the knowledge that it may make it a little less safe than it was with the burny sleeve in there. After all, my tank system would be completely useless if I wouldn't have done this- so I feel it's better to have a well-working tank that I need to use with a bit more caution.
I got my Vivi Nova mini last weekend, and didn't start noticing the burnt taste until this weekend (probably because I've cut way back on the analogs). I followed V Ninja's instructions, and it worked! The first few vapes after I finished the procedure tasted a little burnt, but the burnt taste did start disappearing. Also, my hands are shakier than the average person's, but I was able to do it without any problems. Thanks for sharing the awesome advice!
I got a Vivi-Nova mini about two weeks ago and popped the 1.8 ohm head in right away. I've had nothing but good vapes from it for the two weeks I've had it and it's my main tank right now. Not saying you're not having problems just saying I'm not having a hard time with mine. Anyway, the only beef I have with this unit is it makes juice disappear! I'll fill it to the top line on the side then set it in my rack on my desk. Twenty minutes later the juice level will be down one line lower than where I filled it. Also, if it's not upright like in a case or laying on it's side for whatever reason, juice will disappear. It's not going down the barrel and it's not leaking out the sides or from the top or bottom caps, it just disappears! I've lost half a tank of liquid this way at one time and I can't tell where it's going! Anyone have any ideas on this?
I noticed that on mine too and figured it was wicking; however, I also just found out that I bought the 1st version. I'm glad that you found a setup that is working for you.
I'm back to using the tanks I got with my Ego-C, and I set the mini nova aside because I'm not impressed. IMHO, I was still getting too many dry hits after the mod. I plan on giving a carto-tank setup a try sometime in the future.
I'm back to using the tanks I got with my Ego-C, and I set the mini nova aside because I'm not impressed. IMHO, I was still getting too many dry hits after the mod. I plan on giving a carto-tank setup a try sometime in the future.
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