Everyone is entitled to their opinion... I have been quite satisfied with mine for the year I have had it. Been satisfied with the level of customer service that Vapage gives as well. Top notch company in my opinion with a top notch APV... I would've had a couple of REO's by now if, (in my opinion), they weren't overpriced... The company I owned, (sold off now), catered to the likes of manufacturers such as Rob's, (for 30+ yrs), and I have a very good idea of what it takes to machine, plate, paint or anodize, and assemble a product such as what he sells. Still can't understand why the R&D costs are still passed on to the consumer though. Again, everyone is entitled to their own opinion... I will probably still own one some day, because it is a quality APV, just overpriced...