Volcano not producing enough vapor

[scarter1985]

So I just got my Volcano standard kit and like I had read many times it vapor production is lacking. I read you can take the foil off the cart but then it leaks fluid in my mouth. I also read you can change it to a 306 atomizer...where do I get those and how much difference will it make?

If niether of those will work how about the new volcano inferno or the magma are they going to be better solutions for more vapor?

 

[Evil Ernie]

OK, here's what ya do.
First, remove the foil before attaching the cart to the atty. Foil is the enemy and can prevent good juice flow.
Second, Vape at an angle with the LED pointing down for the first few hits. Gravity will keep the juice at the bridge and not running back into your mouth along the air channel.
Third, juice in the mouth happens to all of us. Consider it a growing pain.
Fourth, get some blue foam and do the blue foam mod. Blue foam is your friend, along with gravity.
Let me know how ya make out.

 

[Magus86]

First of all, it will take a couple days for the atomizer to break in, at which point it will start producing more vapor. Using blue foam for cartridge filler and some VG juice will also help make more vapor, as will dripping directly on the atomizer with liquid. I don't know how much difference a 306 atomizer will make, but you can just google it to find them. Also, the reason you're getting liquid in your mouth may have something to do with the way you're dragging on it. Since you just started, you're probably not doing it right. Try taking slow, light, and long drags. You only need to suck air hard enough to keep the light on the end of the battery lit. I only get juice in my mouth when I either suck to hard, overfill my carts, or a combination of both. Look around here in the newbie section. There are plenty of threads about the Blu electronic cigarette. You may not know this, but volcano and blu are the exact same e-cigarette model, so any information about the blu is also relevant to the volcano. Look around, try not to get discouraged, and good luck. If you want an Inferno or Magma, don't get it from Volcano. Volcano is a brand name, and their e-cigs are overpriced because of the brand. Google Joye 510. You should be able to find a kit from anywhere between 25 and 40 dollars. I wouldn't pay any more than 40. I hope this helps. If you have any other questions, feel free to send me a PM, and I'll help however I can. Don't give up on your volcano just yet.

 

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

I had this problem with my blu, although I've heard volcano attys are better. I did get a 306 atty and wow. the 306 is a vaping beast. If you look around the forum you will see they are becoming popular now especially the lr 306. I haven't used my blu since sometime in may. the other day i broke it out to use a lr 306 on. Wow! short drags and get plumes of vapor.

If you like your volcano, i wouldn't recommend the lr 306 as it will most definitely destroy your batt. Also lr attys seem to cut time between charges in half.

You can get a 306 here
You would have to use 306 carts with it, or a 306 drip tip.

 

[Evil Ernie]

Get your facts straight Magus: Blu and Volcano only share a model # and thats about where the similarities end. Volcano has a bigger updated bridge, updated batteries, and better PCC's and chargers. Blu is still using old first gen tech with their gear.
The Magma Atomizer is now tops in the industry as far as vapor production and flavor go, and the kit price is well worth the quality. The new Inferno will also be a huge player in the eGo style market. Volcano is the only company giving you a 1000mah batt and a 650 mah USB PT batt in one kit. Plus the presentation and styled looks are nothing short of spectacular.

 

[xg4bx]

I use a Volcano regularly and it takes a day or 2 for the atomizer to break in. At first I wasn't getting anything out of it but now I get great vapor.

 

[Magus86]

Get your facts straight Magus: Blu and Volcano only share a model # and thats about where the similarities end. Volcano has a bigger updated bridge, updated batteries, and better PCC's and chargers. Blu is still using old first gen tech with their gear.
The Magma Atomizer is now tops in the industry as far as vapor production and flavor go, and the kit price is well worth the quality. The new Inferno will also be a huge player in the eGo style market. Volcano is the only company giving you a 1000mah batt and a 650 mah USB PT batt in one kit. Plus the presentation and styled looks are nothing short of spectacular.

Uh... I have both volcano and Blu parts, and the atomizers are the SAME. When was the last time you bought an atomizer from them to see if they've changed? Both bridges are the same size. As far as the PCC is concerned, I know that they're different. I didn't say "every single aspect of both e-cigarettes and their kits is the same." I said they are the same exact MODEL, which they are. A 2010 Honda Accord and a 1978 Honda Accord are the same MODEL. MODEL refers to ACCORD. Year, make, model... Are the Volcano and Blu NOT both L88Bs? Oh, they are? Thank you then... And anyway, it's irrelevant that the PCC is different. Do you know why? Because what he asked about was how to get more vapor out of his Volcano.

Oh, and since we're being technical here, Ernie... Volcano updated their batteries too. Now they're not as sensitive, and blowing on them doesn't activate them; only sucking does. But again, this is irrelevant information to the OP at this point in time because he wanted to know how to increase vapor production. As far as that's concerned, Volcano and Blu are EXACTLY THE SAME, so the information about how to increase vapor production will be the same for both of them.

LOL, "the presentation and styled looks are nothing short of spectacular?" You sound like you work for 'em. It's got a picture of an upside down V with a flame coming out of the top(which isn't even what a volcano is, by the way. It should be lava or plumes of smoke, not what looks like a damn candle flame)... Big deal.

Well, okay, if you honestly think it's worth paying double the price for less stuff, then be my guest, Ernie. I could spend 40 and get an extra atomizer, or I could spend 80 and get one less atomizer and a PCC. I could get my kit for 40 and then go spend 20 on a PCC. I will then have paid the same price as a blu kit for the equivalent in 510 gear. I just saved 20 bucks, or enough to go buy 2 30 ML bottles of liquid from Vapor Renu. So... let's recap: For the same price as a Magma kit, I get an extra atomizer and 2 bottles of liquid.

 

[zeepeng]

as i know u can exchange for another cartridge as it leaks be4 use.anyway,those 2 parts E-cigarette produces more vapor than 3 parts ones,and u dont need to take another cartridge and battery or PCC.
u got more than 400-500 puffs,i guess.

 

[TheChariot]

I've owned, mixed, and matched Volcano and BLU parts for about a year now. They're essentially the same thing with the exception of the charger packs they offer. If there is a difference between the two, it is not something noticeable to most users. The attys look exactly the same. I go with Volcano because of price and a wider array of accessories.

Got a leaky atomizer? I did too... then I joined ECF and learned a simple and quick way to clean them. BAM! They're heating up fast and producing way more vapor without the leaks for about 3 days. I have 5 attys and I clean them all weekly.

There's a ton of cleaning methods. I just put them in a bowl, boil some water, pour it over them and let them sit for 30 mins or till the water cools. Then I empty and repeat till it cools again. Blow the water out of the middle of each atty and let them sit on a paper towel overnight. Next morning attach each one to a battery (no cartridge) and blow/suck on the battery end of the unit w/ the atty out in front of your face.... let it get nice and hot for 3-4 seconds. This will burn off the remaining water and some residue form the inside of the atty.. it should smell a bit cruddy. Then drip some juice onto the bridge and let it absorb until you can burn some off. You'll find that a clean atomizer gives you much less air resistance and gets hotter faster, resulting in a quick burn of the ejuice instead of letting it get sucked back into your mouth.

 

[bubbajoe72]

Sure, you can shop around for a better price on a 510 (Magma) or eGo style battery (Inferno) but will you get the 1 year warranty that Volcano offers? Most other places that sell the 510/eGo for less have a shorter warranty, most less than a month.

 

[Mathew R Taylor]

Although I vaped on a Volcano Magma when I started, and I found that when I blocked the airholes on the magma (similar to covering the airholes in an analog), the atty burned hotter, but the TH and vapor were excellent!! I totally enjoyed it, but started vaping more and more and became disillusioned with little time the batteries were lasting me. I basically outgrew it, which I've read happens to some. The inferno was not yet available (in stock for longer than 5 minutes) so moved off of it to my current PV a vGo. Similar to an volcano, but a bigger battery and cone to control airflow. For me, this is a good step!!! The vapor clouds are great, and throat hit is much better than my magma ever was. That said, I still use my magma as my backup when my vGo is charging.

That said - I also have used both blu and Volcano products. For most of the products (being battery and carts), I found no real difference. The PCC that I got from Volcano is vastly superior in the amount of charge it holds, and the rapidity with which it charges. The biggest difference in my mind? The atty's; hands down for Volcano! Both of my original attys are holding strong, and I popped my blu on my vGo (same voltage, bigger mah). I clean them about once a week or so when I need to (you can feel the difference), and I still use them as my go to's.

At this site, you'll find a great range of product endorsements and suggestions, as a minority of Customers started their journey with Joe and the Volcano line. For a more Volcano tweaked expereince, go to Joe's website and check out the forums there. Being that it's their forum all the mods and tweaks relate to their products. Evil Ernie (same name there) has some excellent videos that ushered me into my Volcano experience.

Last - I can safely say from my own experience with the Magma, that when you move away from the Volcano prefilled carts and try something different (absolutely try the Blue foam mod) you will up your vapor. I have tried prefilled carts from many different vendors, and nothing against Volcano or their supplier, but I really didn't enjoy their filling - it didn't wick very well and often gave a burnt taste. Congrats on switching, and I hope you enjoy your volcano!!!

 

[Zod]

If you're still using the carts that came with the Volcano that's a problem. I tried a new juice today that's an 80/20 pg/vg mix just dripped into the empty volcano cart and the difference was huge. When you're trying to impress a customer with your PV you'd think they'd use high quality juice instead of the garbage that ships with your Volcano. What can the cost difference be? A buck or two?

 

[Sacker]

cart methods isn't for everyone.. including self

But you can still salvage those juices in your carts if you decide on going the drip method..

If you do decide on trying out the drip method, you got plenty of juice to test with from your pre-filled carts... before you decide to take a plunge on any vendors with thier ejuices (practice test runs before actual purchases)... economical

1. you will need a empty ejuice bottle, almost all ecig vendors sells them, or you can diy... either way works.
2. a large plastic syringe to hold the cart fillers with the ejuice in them. (most cooking retail outlets sell em, wallmart cooking sections, etc)

Basically with tweezers pull out the juice filled fillers from the carts and insert it into the large plastic syringe, keep packing them in until you feel its full... hold the large plastic syringe upright and plunge it, but not where the ejuices are squirting out all over the place, just enough where you can put in more , rinse and repeat if you have more ejuice fillers from carts... then get your empty plastic bottle (ejuice oriented bottle) and fill it up... PRESTO you got a juice filled bottle, without having to go out and buy more ... for a short term usages...



EE over at Volcano forums has a video on it.. handy if you need a visual on it. or Google the net for other similiar ideas. Theres alot of video's on it out on the internet. But EE is fun to watch, he has alot of Volcano specific video's which helped me out when I first started using volcano products.


Generic tips , happy vaping

 

[SpeakerPlayNet]

If you want an Inferno or Magma, don't get it from Volcano. Volcano is a brand name, and their e-cigs are overpriced because of the brand. Google Joye 510. You should be able to find a kit from anywhere between 25 and 40 dollars. I wouldn't pay any more than 40. I hope this helps. If you have any other questions, feel free to send me a PM, and I'll help however I can. Don't give up on your volcano just yet.

Actually, I believe the 1000 mah Inferno is possibly a Joye Ego ? Not 510. The Passthrough is 650 mah. I looked around and I don't think their price was that bad off, for $59.99 you get both the 1000 and the 640 passthrough, charger and some other stuff. Anyway, I was looking around today because I'd like to find those kind of carts that you can push out and put blue foam in (The Inferno carts are ceramic) and it looked like an Ego - is that the same as a 510 or something different? I'm still new also but love my Infernos. It does seem I get more vape with the drip method than I do with the cart FYI.

 

[Mathew R Taylor]

Agreed - I went from carts, to modded carts, to cartos, to ceramic cartos and now to dripping; I love dripping (thanks mistressNomad) and wouldn't trade it for the world. This is what I dig about this journey, so many new things to try!!!

 

[Evil Ernie]

Aw shucks guys, thanks.
And no, Magus, I don't work for Volcano. I pay the same for my stuff just like everyone else.
If you're not seeing a difference in bridge size between V and B atties, then either you haven't bought a new V atty lately, or B has started buying large bridge units as well. A year ago, the Blu atty was a short bridge with an inner cart that was half the size as what it is today. There have been changes made, but only because other suppliers started offering better equipment.
As far as the 'ferno is concerned, looks are a big deal. I don't want to buy a kit that looks like it was dragged behind a truck. The 'ferno comes with clean lines, and flawless construction. The logo's are crisp, the chrome polished, and color just pops. I think if the Teutels from OCC were to create an ecig, it would look like the 'ferno. It's the hot rod of ecigs, plain and simple. Granted, some folks don't care for style or flash, and thats fine. But evidently, alot of people do dig the look the 'ferno offers, and the numbers show that. Is it a mega eGo with a hotrod paintjob? Yup, but damn it looks good and runs like a champ!

 

[capnbang]

INFERNO BABY! My hotrod red (cherry) Inferno with a gold drip tip.Looks like IronMans stogie.Smokes (vapes) like a freight train.

 

[SpeakerPlayNet]

I bought an Inferno for a friend of mine who has never used an Ecig. I told her most people start with a cigarette look alike but I was sending her the Inferno and she was getting an Ecig with the training wheels removed.

A trick if you really want a lot of vapor is to buy a $2 bottle of glycerin and add 1 drop to your juice in a mini juice bottle and shake well. So it really does matter what juice you are using and the formulas as to how much vapor you get with the same setup.

I am loving this PassThrough Inferno. You can use it while you charge and, unlike my v2 passthrough, you can disconnect it after it charges and it works like any other ecig. That's really cool.

 

[Xanax]

OK, here's what ya do.
First, remove the foil before attaching the cart to the atty. Foil is the enemy and can prevent good juice flow.
Second, Vape at an angle with the LED pointing down for the first few hits. Gravity will keep the juice at the bridge and not running back into your mouth along the air channel.
Third, juice in the mouth happens to all of us. Consider it a growing pain.
Fourth, get some blue foam and do the blue foam mod. Blue foam is your friend, along with gravity.
Let me know how ya make out.

Agree with the gravity statement. Even if the device is only at a very slight angle (downward) it should reduce leaking.