VVPV test results and comments

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sashwa

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My thoughts - Most of my thoughts have probably been already posted so please forgive my redundancy in advance.

Likes

  • The size is nice - not too small and not too large
  • I like the plunger at the top
  • I also like the rounded sides of the mod

Likes Not

  • I do not like the fire button. It is hurts my finger and thumb pads. I realize that the button is the same size as the BP but the BP button is softer to use and doesn't bother my pads as much. I have arthritis in my hands so some things bother them now than may not have bother them before I got old.

  • Tubing - I like the idea of a top feeder but the tube does seem to get in the way.

Possible suggestions


  • Catch cup is needed.

  • I would like to see the power button on the side of the mod.

  • Tubing - Maybe instead of a hole in the drip tip a collar could be made where the collar attaches to the atty that has hole for the tube and you could use your own drip tip.

  • Edit to add: I would also like to see an on/off switch.



All and all I think it's going to be a nice mod and can't wait to see the real thing. Thank you, Mike, for letting my try it.
 
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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-me-your-best-pitch-line-36.html#post4472278
Link shows the photo of the Metal Proto VVPV for "EVAL" ... take a look.

My impression: OMG Whoa baby! First impression is wow; this VVPV in its metal form, after seeing it all tore up in plastic is like witnessing magic. I know it's a whole new unit, from the ground up, and super impressive Mike.

If this is what the production units are going to be like as far as materials, I will go on, but if this is just a mock-up and to be done in something different then I'd better tone it down, because it is some kind of metal (aluminum body, brass top and bottom plates, thick domed brass connector mount) a full 2mm thick!!! Light enough, but thicker than a Reo and more like the Provari solid (even more maybe).
Yep double the thickness of the Buzz Pro.
- Necessary? ... an improvement? I'd leave that up to the engineers to decide, but for me.... I love the solid feel. It's only a tad more than 2" wide, 3" high, and 3/4" thick... Nice small profile; but very solid feel.

Flawless contours and fit. +1 on the machining work.

The juice-bottle side door slides out from the top with a fingernail; smooth. Angle out from the top, and a little tick of a bump at the bottom which fits into a hole (notch) on the inside of the bottom brass plate.
Has a 1/8" wide, 1 1/2" high open sight window to see the bottle from the bottom. It's a little dark in there as this is a Black unit, so unless it had an LED somehow shining on the bottle from inside, not much gauging how much juice is going on there.

On/Off switch on the back upper center. A real sliding on/off switch! +1
Raised LED bubble light is red when on (charged) and blue when firing. +1
VVPV came charged. I don't know if there is a warning or anything for low power source.

LED bubble is situated near to the famous little firing button on one side.... Does it get in the way of firing? ...not a problem really, when you press the button, it doesn't go all the way down to the top of the bubble so a non-issue. +1

VV dial adjuster is a mm or two smaller than the BuzzPro slot and dial is a little smaller too. Still doable as i have my uke playing fingernails. In current orientation, dial not sticking up much, a finger tip will do it but hard to gauge.
*One worry; if you get leaks from atty you may get juice in the dial slot.

Voltage Metered: lowest setting 3.55v, to Green: 3.61v ... Yellow: 3.80 .... Red: 4.8 Clocked 6.4 at highest tick. (6.4v !!!)

Proto VVPV came with an awesome looking raised brass dome connector; 901. I was hoping it was a drip well, but doesn’t look like it . For some reason there is an o-ring at the bottom of the threads..
Mike included a couple 901 to 510 adapters and an extra “Dripper” setup which includes a glass bottle. The Dripper is a pump style top button (like those soap dispensers, but much smaller of course; I’d say about 6 ml.)

The pump button is on the opposite side of the connector on the brass top plate, and pops up through a hole. I was pleasantly surprised that 2 pumps brings one nice drip, and a third press brings your second drip. My juice is around 60% VG, sometimes more, so control is good there.
*The proto unit has the tube fitted into a hole on the base of a plastic 510/901 atty whistle tip cap and the tube is aimed down to the atty coil. Perfect.

Other than a drip well, another thing I would hope for is a delrin fitting so you can put you own drip tip.

I’m prejudiced; nothing like dripping. It’s better than bottom feeding or a carto or a tank (because you get the same every time) and this VVPV settles it for me; a TOP FEEDER that works!
First on the market; go to the head of the class. +1

There is nothing better imo than a fresh new DSE SR 901 atty (2.8 Ohm) on a kick ... regulated VV. Anywhere from 3.5 to 4.2 volts on a fresh one, is like vapin Heaven. Kick it up if you like as the atty gets worn in.

I've only had it in use a couple hours and it works as good as it looks. As soon as i saw it i knew it would. I'd love to buy this right now ... heheh.

I'll keep it for the weekend and pass it to Gramakitty. We'll see a few things about the charger etc. but wow Mike, really .... DIBS on one ! serious.
 
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Nice review UKE thanks !

Note: the power switch has to be ON during charging , the green LED on the charger will come on when it is fully charged , it can be used as a passthrough and it has the same guts as the BP and IP , this one has a test circuit in it that will push 4 AMPS and has a higher voltage output ( by accident LOL ! and outside of the MFG specs on the chip)
 

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totally Wharf... this is one of the best PV's I've come across so far.
There's something about it... the solid build and feel, easy to grip, and to back that up a cleaner vape than even the BP somehow.
They are the same internals, but for some reason the vaping is like flawless.
And with the tube in the plastic whistle tip, I don't really need Pyrex d/t's... those are for dripping lol.
Still a delrin adapter for your own d/t i would expect to be the next add on.

I've stuck to the 901 (which is my favorite atty) since it has a 901 connector and i am hesitant to try different attys because it's working so good. (SR 2.8 - 3.0 Ohms at 3.5 to 4.0v).
I'll put a HV 901 on it.
Then try using adapters (901 to 510 - came with unit) maybe a double up 510 to 801 for a Fusion just to see... do double ups work?
Not interested in trying to top feed carto's just 'cause i don't use them unless in a tank.

I'm sold. period. Only checking batt life to do. Seems to run and run and run. By now i'd have changed BP 16340 batts.
Getting great vapes out of 3 to 4 plunges and not one drop out of the side hole on the 901.
This is too easy.
That's what I want in a high end pv... no muss and fuss. You can get great vaping and focus on something else for a change. LOL.

Great review Uke !!!

Aren't you glad now I broke the old one :facepalm:
 

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comin from you 5C that's a great compliment...
I know "easy".... heheh and i like the best.
I have had the VapeMate when it first came out and i know lots of vapers like it, but i didn't... it wasn't easy and i tried different ways of modding it etc... still it would overfeed and the "auto feed" deal =overfeed to me.
This pump is a just tad hard to push but for the little effort, and some VG, you get enough juice in there and it doesn't keep coming when you don't want it in the atty! So no flooding unless you overdo it with the plunging.
I'm not gonna take the bottle cap out to see how it's connected to the spring wound post (plunger) but i imagine it ("dripper" at notcigs) would be replaceable easy enough.
I've been dripping for over a year and to me it's better to have less juice in the atty than too much. Like salt in food heheh you can always add more.
Ukeman, that's the best review yet and maybe having the real McCoy instead of the Model was the reason for such a great review or maybe it's because you know your stuff. I pick the latter but for whatever reason Kudos. Well done.
 

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THe bottle is just a dripper , the top cap pulls off the bottle so you can replace the plunger and bottle assem. in one shot , Pg is very thick so it makes sense that it is harder to push IMO. or is it VG ?? forgot now LOL????

Nice stuff Uke and NO you cannot keep that one sorry buddy !!!
 
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