WARNING!! Kanger Dripbox; turned on by itself, melted down !! WARNING !!

[EddieAdams]

So what was the issue again?
Are you saying mechs CAN'T autofire?

Didn't say that. Didn't even indicate that. The dripbox is a REGULATED device with electronics in place to protect the user. Yes it works like a mech using only the battery's voltage.
If those electronics get wet the device fails or gets damaged. A true mech has no electronics.



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[EddieAdams]

Ya now we just have to figure out why. Was it a bad button, possibly something the user may have done, did the board go haywire, or a mix of a few things. I'm thinking the board went haywire for some reason as the auto cut off should have kicked in before that could happen. unless the button was messing up pressing and I'm pressing just long enough to not trigger a shutoff or anything else.

Someone mentioned it earlier that over tightening of the battery can shift the innards causing the button to stick against the body.

Might have been rinsed with a little water.

And of course internal leaking of liquid onto the electronics.

Which has always puzzled me. Does eliquid conduct electricity? I always thought it didn't unless it contains water which my mixes don't.

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[pbanj]

One of the issues I have is of people spreading misinformation.

Yeah, a regulated mod is supposed to have protection circuitry. Yet we see from this thread that electronics can fail, so nothing is 100% safe.

You said that because the Reo is a mechanical mod, it has no built-in protection. Yet it uses a hot spring (verified to work as designed by Uncle Psycho), has a lockable fire button, and has adequate vent holes. I'd pick a Reo as being a safer mod than a Kanger product any day of the week.

Not picking an argument with you, but I have a personal pet peeve about people who spread misinformation.

I like kanger tanks but I would never touch one of their mods. I always see people having some sort of issues with them. This being by far the worst.

 

[pbanj]

Someone mentioned it earlier that over tightening of the battery can shift the innards causing the button to stick against the body.

Might have been rinsed with a little water.

And of course internal leaking of liquid onto the electronics.

Which has always puzzled me. Does eliquid conduct electricity? I always thought it didn't unless it contains water which my mixes don't.

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Simple test, take a multi meter and stick the probes in some ejuice

 

[Baditude]

And of course internal leaking of liquid onto the electronics.

Which has always puzzled me. Does eliquid conduct electricity? I always thought it didn't unless it contains water which my mixes don't.

E-liquid does not conduct electricity, but it will flame and cause a fire if it gets too hot. I suspect a faulty wire or circuit board/on-board charger caught fire when e-liquid made contact with them.

 

[EddieAdams]

I like kanger tanks but I would never touch one of their mods. I always see people having some sort of issues with them. This being by far the worst.

Have to tell you, the two dripboxes I was gifted are great little devices. The RDA they come with is garbage. Usable if you don't have any other BF rda. $25!

My neighbors subox has lasted her over a year so far. $50. No, kanger isn't the best. Cost is relative though.


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[pbanj]

Lets not forget ejuice is a liquid so it can cause swelling of the boards.

 

[EddieAdams]

E-liquid does not conduct electricity, but it will flame and cause a fire if it gets too hot. I suspect a faulty wire or circuit board/on-board charger caught fire when e-liquid made contact with them.

Thanks, right. That's what had always confused me about people saying, "must have gotten liquid on the board". If it doesn't conduct electricity than why would it affect the board?

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[pbanj]

Thanks, right. That's what had always confused me about people saying, "must have gotten liquid on the board". If it doesn't conduct electricity than why would it affect the board?

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It can cause swelling

 

[pbanj]

Have to tell you, the two dripboxes I was gifted are great little devices. The RDA they come with is garbage. Usable if you don't have any other BF rda. $25!

My neighbors subox has lasted her over a year so far. $50. No, kanger isn't the best. Cost is relative though.


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There are norm other devices in the same price range so I norm stick to those. I have seen too many people with issues. Tbh I'm slightly tempted by the drip box as its pretty cheap lol.

 

[Frocket]

The Reo really tempts me, and always has.

I'm just not sure that it would provide the same vape I'm used to, since I usually run dual 24ga coils at about 0.2 ohms on a regulated mod around 60-65 watts.

Sure, a fresh battery on a mech will give me about 60 watts, but that won't last too long before voltage starts to drop. A dual battery mod can get me through the day, but with a single battery mech, I'd have to carry a bunch of spares.

Still, the Reo is very tempting.

BOOM!

 

[Baditude]

The Reo really tempts me, and always has.

I'm just not sure that it would provide the same vape I'm used to, since I usually run dual 24ga coils at about 0.2 ohms on a regulated mod around 60-65 watts.

Sure, a fresh battery on a mech will give me about 60 watts, but that won't last too long before voltage starts to drop. A dual battery mod can get me through the day, but with a single battery mech, I'd have to carry a bunch of spares.

I doubt that you would have to keep more than a couple of 18650's in a plastic battery case to last you most of the day. I bring a couple of spare batteries with me whenever I leave the house but rarely need either one for my single battery mech. You probably would need to raise your resistance a little to about 0.3 to 0.4 in a single battery mech.

QUESTION: If you don't already have a mech in your collection, what are you going to do post-FDA regulation and your regulated mod's processor dies off? How many backup regulated mods is enough post-FDA regulations? Keep a mech in your collection, and you are FDA-proof. Regardless of its simplicity, the Reo is the perfect mod for the future.

 

[Rule62]

I know of REO users who run around .3. I don't know if anybody goes as low as .2. I build mine around .4 with kanthal; down as low as .3 with 316L stainless, with no problem. I've never collapsed a spring; and I've been using nothing but REOs for about 2 years.

 

[crxess]

Firstly I'm glad no one got hurt.
As I understand e-liquid is not electrically conductive, so I'm not sure how it getting in the electronics could have caused an auto-fire. It shows that any mod, regulated, mechanical or as in this case a hybrid can auto-fire even if used carefully.

Sticky Residues.........Sticky residues. Outer button does not = inner parts.
Sitting a Mod down, assuming it is not firing, does not mean it isn't and oten there is nothing to indicate it is until the Oh moment.

I have a Stingray with a hair trigger switch and that damn thing has auto Fired on me twice with the Switch all but locked,(lock shift from moving the mod)
No Vapor exiting the RTA, No Noises to be heard.........Just that ungodly HOT Feeling when grabbing it for a Vape.<fortunately I don't Panic and hadn't left it standing long> Note: Mod is Retired

 

[Rule62]

Sticky Residues.........Sticky residues. Outer button does not = inner parts.
Sitting a Mod down, assuming it is not firing, does not mean it isn't and oten there is nothing to indicate it is until the Oh moment.

I have a Stingray with a hair trigger switch and that damn thing has auto Fired on me twice with the Switch all but locked,(lock shift from moving the mod)
No Vapor exiting the RTA, No Noises to be heard.........Just that ungodly HOT Feeling when grabbing it for a Vape.<fortunately I don't Panic and hadn't left it standing long> Note: Mod is Retired

I had a similar thing happen, quite a while back, with a GP Paps. The Paps was known for having such a short throw on the bottom button, that it was almost a touch switch. We were at the local flea market, and had stopped for lunch. I sat the mod down, and it just happened to be on a bread crumb that probably fell off the hot dog roll I was eating. It was tiny, but enough to fire the mod. Yes, I had neglected to turn the lock ring; my fault. But, the atomizer I had on it, probably a genisis, at the time, was built well within the CDR limit of the battery. I heard the 'sizzle', grabbed the mod, which was just slightly warm, and twisted the tube quickly, to release the battery.

 

[Car147]

Lol gotta love these threads, one failure probably due to the user, and its turned into an ad for Reo lol

 

[ErnieKim]

Many users have reported "self-firing" issues with the Drip box

 

[Rule62]

Lol gotta love these threads, one failure probably due to the user, and its turned into an ad for Reo lol

Yeah, there's a good reason for that.

 

[pbanj]

Many users have reported "self-firing" issues with the Drip box

Someone here has said it happens when he over tightens the battery cover. If that's the case its the user's fault, kind of. They shouldn't have made it able to go that tight or include some sort of warning about it.

 

[zoiDman]

Thanks, right. That's what had always confused me about people saying, "must have gotten liquid on the board". If it doesn't conduct electricity than why would it affect the board?

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If e-Liquid got on/in the Actuator Button on a Circuit Board, couldn't it cause the Button on the board to become Stuck? The Physical Fire Button may move Freely, but if the Actuator on the Board gets stuck, it could Auto-Fire.