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WARNING: Replica eGo & eGo-T flood the market....THEY ARE NOT JOYE APPROVED

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  1. BAZYRKYR

    BAZYRKYR Full Member Verified Member

    Dec 21, 2010
    USA
    What I wanna know is.....if Ovale designed the "tank" system and Joye manufactured it and Ovale/Joye has an exclusivity contract with Totally Wicked and Janty for 3 months from the date of the products release, then how are other ECF approved vendors claiming to have the Ovale/Joye "tank" system? I know that even the top manufacturers (other than Joye) are all making exact replicas (knockoffs) that even come in the Joye boxes with the Janty logo on them and they even have the same instruction booklets. Some vendors are claiming they have Genuine Joye eGo-T's and others just say eGo-T without being specific as to who manufactured it. These manufacturers are also making there own brand of eGo and eGo-T style PV's that are very similar.....they all have 510 threading but they vary in things like color, mAh's, button band/thread color, power cut off times, and different end caps (USB, Cyrstal l.e.d, l.e.d color, etc.). A few of these companies who are copying Joye's product already have quality popular products just like Joye and some people like the other brands better....so why not be honest and tell everyone if its a replica or another brand.:vapor:

    Check out what Frank Chur of Shenzhen Joye Technology Co., Ltd. has to say about it on one of Miss.Wicked’s posts….Here’s the link: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/totally-wicked-e-liquid/100865-warning-fake-ego-tornado.html
     
  2. xg4bx

    xg4bx Moved On ECF Veteran

    frankly, i don't believe anything that comes out of china is "official" lol. "intellectual property" is a dirty word over there.
     
  3. arkoser

    arkoser Full Member

    Sep 5, 2008
    must agree "intellectual property" is nonsense in china.
     
  4. Scottitude

    Scottitude Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2010
    Metro Detroit
    Not only that but in China, R & D is commonly known to mean "receive and duplicate". In every industry.
     
  5. mlinky

    mlinky ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 22, 2010
    Kentucky
    Actually, if you read the thread linked in the op, apparently they don't have a list of authorized resellers.
     
  6. Nomoreash

    Nomoreash Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 9, 2010
    Chattanooga, TN
    Marketing.....many people are hung up on words like authentic and genuine. A well designed and built product is a well designed and built product to matter how it's branded. But many think it's a better product, are willing to pay more and and get comfort in the fact it's designated as genuine. In some cases that's true, more often than not it's strictly marketing.
     
  7. jacktan12

    jacktan12 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 14, 2011
    Malaysia
    Haha....now that somebody mentioned fake ego, does the riva qualify as one? I've been ghosting around in this forum for the past day and I'm finding lots of people who swear by the riva, just as many that won't put down their ego. Does it really make a difference?
     
  8. Kenji

    Kenji Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 10, 2011
    Ca
    Hmmmmm yes and No, Yes as in if its the first gen knock offs then it could be poorly made and could ruin your battery and such. Once the knock off gets to the 2nd and 3rd gen i say you will get about the same as the original (Real eGo-T). So yea, I just went ahead and got mines from TW - just the atomizer and tank and it fits the Riva Battery rather Well. Hmmmm its something new .... I would not say its better then cartos but its different so if you got the cash and want to try then buy one. If you dont want to spend extra money and love vaping with what you got then dont get the Tank.
     
  9. dormouse

    dormouse ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Oct 31, 2010
    Pennsylvania
    There are substandard non-Joye parts around. I always tell new users to buy Joye 510 or Ego because far too many buy random unbranded ones and some get shabbily constructed atomizers, and in some cases parts that don't even fit together. And far too many new users end up with melting carts and pieces that don't fit right. I got a 510 from TW and the carts do not fit right into the atty - about 1/8 inch too long.
     
  10. BAZYRKYR

    BAZYRKYR Full Member Verified Member

    Dec 21, 2010
    USA
    Sounds as if you received XL or "Mega carts for your regular 510 atty if they're about 1/8 inch too long. http://........com/6yp53bd
     
  11. dormouse

    dormouse ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Oct 31, 2010
    Pennsylvania
    Yes I think I did receive Mega carts. It was single PV 510 starter kit, all packaged together in a nice magnetic box. And my atty does not look like Joye - I think it has a skinnier less rounded bridge. And I was not impressed with the overall fit and finish - the fit of the atty to the battery leaves a small gap. That's why I tell people to buy Joye.

    The same Mega cart thing happened to someone else who bought non-Joye elsewhere. And many people with random generics are having problems with melting the carts. I saw a picture of one generic 510 atty that was crooked - the bridge was irregular and shabby looking and slightly off-center.

    I really don't care what experienced users want to buy but I think we should make an effort to insure new vapers get kits that fit and work right.
     
  12. miriaminspringtown

    miriaminspringtown Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Kenji is right in that the Tank System is more costly. Many vendors online are sold out of the tank atomizers.With the economy so bad these days, most of us do not have the luxury of spending on new gadets. Vaping is supposed to be less expensive than analogs. It is so easy to get caught up in the new gadget thing and spend more money.
     
  13. mwa102464

    mwa102464 Resting In Peace ECF Veteran

    Seems to me the same people who are making knock off Gucci purses, shoes, watches, and everything else that is copied over in China and other countries is now battling there own war on knock off ecigs. There now having to deal with the same thing that all the original designers of product over here in the USA have been dealing with for years now. The counterfeit business is a Billion dollar a year business or more and very hard to stop, good luck trying to stop it with ecigs when they cant stop it with Rolex, Gucci and all the others.!
     
  14. pnkelfntsonprade

    pnkelfntsonprade New Member

    Mar 30, 2011
    USA
    Hello all,

    This is my first post on here. Anyway I purchased an e-go system about 2 months ago. I purchased the kit from americaneliquidstore.com. The atomizers that came with the kit lasted me about two weeks each. They are kind of expensive so I shopped around and found them at ecigsupply.com for $12.95. They seemed to work normally at first. After two days the paint began peeling off the atomizer. At 4 days it began to taste nasty. I am beginning to think the atomizers from said vendor are knockoff parts but I could be wrong. Have any of you had a problem with parts from this vendor or had similar issues with the ego-t parts from others? Your input would be most appreciated, thanks.
     
  15. NJKatwoman

    NJKatwoman New Member

    Feb 5, 2012
    North Carolina
    I just purchased what I thought was an Ego T, 900 Mah from a local vape vendor in King, NC. There were two batts, two atomizers, and five carts. It came in a black Ego T zippered hard shell case. Now this guy is telling me it is NOT an Ego T?!!!
    By putting a product that is NOT the authentic Ego in a Ego case, isn't that like, false advertising or something? The batts say "smok" on them, nothing says Ego...how do I know if what he did was unlawful, unethical or not, or did I get the real deal? I'm a newbie to vaping. Recently received my Joye 510-T, and one battery died already. Worked for one day. Can't return it :( The 340 Mah died, but the smaller battery is still working. Spending a lot of money, more than if I had just purchased my analog cartons for the month, what with smoke juice, menthol crystals, and two different units. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, gang!
     
  16. swedishfish

    swedishfish Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 28, 2010
    NJ
    I'd buy from one of the registered suppliers here on the forum. Most state their warranty, and if they don't have one, run!

    Liberty Flight warranties their batteries for 2 months and most suppliers do too.
     
  17. Warren D. Lockaby

    Warren D. Lockaby Super Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 19, 2011
    South Carolina, USA
    Interesting. I noticed the date of Miss Wicked's post linked above is 6/22/2010. I wonder how much worse/better/unchanged it has gotten since then? Just curious....
     
  18. hairball

    hairball ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 17, 2010
    Other Places
    How are they doing it? That's easy to answer. China does not believe in copyrights. It's like the LavaTube. Volcano can only sell the branded ones while other vendors just call it something else.
     
  19. stephpd

    stephpd Super Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 24, 2011
    Delaware
    Ego's have been knocked off so much that it's hard to find 'real' Joyetech ones. That and they usually cost twice as much. From what I've seen of quality they're all about the same.

    Here's the companies making Ego kits in China;
    Ego-Ego Manufacturers, Suppliers and Exporters on Alibaba.com
    Literally hundreds of companies and only one is the Joyetech company.
     
  20. AdrenalinnRush

    AdrenalinnRush Full Member Verified Member

    Jan 30, 2012
    Eugene, Oregon
    I ordered 4 variable voltage ego's from Gotvapes.com and ALL of are broken. They came apart where the button is. If i could, i would go back in time and just build a mod. :(. Not sure if they were actually Joye's or not but i don't trust Gotvapes.com anymore!
     
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