We Made the Front Page of USA Today!

[HDVaper]

I don't know if this is good or bad.

 

[sbc83]

Do smoking bans apply to e-cigarettes?

Look at any electronic cigarette company's website, and you'll read that you can smoke the battery-operated devices almost anywhere.

Up until recently, Blu eCigs boasted on its website that one benefit over traditional cigarettes is that you can "Smoke anywhere!" The website has since toned down its language to say that you can "Smoke in many places where traditional cigarettes aren't allowed!"

The confusion about where you can or cannot smoke e-cigarettes has posed a challenge for the travel industry. The FDA has not ruled on the safety of e-cigarettes, but the agency will propose a rule on how to regulate them down the road.

That's not stopping people who want to quit smoking from turning to the smokeless, odorless alternative.

According to the tobacco Vapor Electronic Cigarette Association, which represents the industry, e-cigarette makers have been able to capture 10% to 14% of the 44 million tobacco users in the U.S.

E-cigarettes heat liquid containing nicotine to produce vapor. In addition to water, the e-cigs typically contain vegetable glycerine, artificial flavoring and sometimes, propylene glycol, which is also found in asthma inhalers.

"E-cigarettes as a whole have no secondhand smoke," says Ray Story, chief executive officer of the association. "They don't emit anything."

But Stanton Glantz, professor of medicine and director of the Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education at the University of California, San Francisco, says, "They do emit toxic chemicals into the environment.

"My opinion is that they're dangerous — not as dangerous as conventional cigarettes — but that they're dangerous," he says.

Where exactly can travelers smoke e-cigarettes? The answer is still not clear.
Bill Mosley, a spokesman for the Department of Transportation, says the current ban on smoking on planes applies to e-cigarettes, though it does not explicitly say so.
"There has been some confusion over whether the Department's ban on smoking includes a ban on (the) use of e-cigarettes," he says.

To clear up that confusion, in September 2011, the department proposed an amendment to explicitly ban e-cigarettes. A final rule is expected by the end of this year.

Passengers who fail to comply with the no-smoking ban can currently be fined between $1,100 and $11,000 by the Federal Aviation Administration.
Airports and hotels are generally on their own when deciding how to deal with e-cigarettes.

You can't power up an e-cig at Baltimore/ Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport. But you can at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport. "State law governs indoor smoking but does not address electronic cigarettes, nor have we chosen at this point to govern their use by ordinance," says spokesman Patrick Hogan.

Same goes for hotels, which in recent years have been more aggressive in getting rid of smoking rooms and public spaces on their properties.

Wyndham Hotel group, for example, has not made any changes to smoking polices but "will continue to monitor the trend as it emerges," says spokeswoman Kathryn Zambito.
But Jeffery Waddell, director of Westin Hilton Head Island Resort and Spa, says, "We would treat an electronic cigarette as a cigarette. There is nicotine vapor, and it falls into the realm of smoking."

 

[ScandaLeX]

Do smoking bans apply to e-cigarettes?

But Stanton Glantz, professor of medicine and director of the Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education at the University of California, San Francisco, says, "They do emit toxic chemicals into the environment.

"My opinion is that they're dangerous — not as dangerous as conventional cigarettes — but that they're dangerous," he says.

Seems these news sources find the least informed; the person with the biggest mouth and call it news.

"But Jeffery Waddell, director of Westin Hilton Head Island Resort and Spa, says, "We would treat an electronic cigarette as a cigarette. There is nicotine vapor, and it falls into the realm of smoking."

I guess this now means 0 nic contains nicotine too.
This story (IMO) does not come off as a win for us. If anything it reads as though you may as well continue to smoke cigarettes.

 

[CommaHolly]

But Jeffery Waddell, director of Westin Hilton Head Island Resort and Spa, says, "We would treat an electronic cigarette as a cigarette. There is nicotine vapor, and it falls into the realm of smoking."

and how do they plan to deal with those who do NOT vape nicotine juice???????

eye roll.

 

[LeoRex]

Azer, the tobacco analyst, says she expects the FDA to ban both flavors and Internet sales, which so far have benefited the smaller companies that don't have a brick-and-mortar sales presence. As such, she says, she expects regulation will consolidate the industry — to the benefit of major players such as NJoy and Big Tobacco.

I hope this is just some analyst speaking out of their backside... because it would ... suck. Banning flavors and online sales? That would devastate the market and hand it to BT.

Guess I'll have to make some big juice buys... Ug... that sucks. I have no desire to quit vaping, so it is pissing me off that I might be forced to over lack of access.

 

[crxess]

TB will go at it any way they can to win. Dose not matter how much regulation as long as they get control.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

LMAO at attempts to ban flavors and online sales.

Bring it. And try to enforce it. The candymakers, candlemakers, soapmakers and essential oil makers are gonna go Ape Sierra.

 

[soba1]

When I thought was funny is banning smoking in hotel rooms. The only way can check if someone is vaping is by using a camera lol
cause there sure isn't a smell.

 

[Smokachino]

"But Stanton Glantz, professor of medicine and director of the Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education at the University of California, San Francisco, says, "They do emit toxic chemicals into the environment.

My opinion is that they're dangerous — not as dangerous as conventional cigarettes — but that they're dangerous," he says. "

I wonder how much he was paid to spout this BS?

 

[tj99959]

When I thought was funny is banning smoking in hotel rooms. The only way can check if someone is vaping is by using a camera lol
cause there sure isn't a smell.

A while back there was a thread on ecf about a person being charged an exorbitant cleaning fee for smoking in their motel room because the maid reported seeing e-cigs on a charger along with other vaping supplies in the room.

 

[bikerbeagle]

This is the text of the online article that pertains to the paper article in today's USAToday (I don't know if they vary):

[EDIT -- Please don't quote entire articles. That's a copyright violation and can get ECF into hot water. Link to article is in the last post of this thread.]

 

[jefsview]

To paraphrase and summarize: the American Government and BIG Tobacco wants to crush small businesses and pocket everything for themselves, while diluting the product to become less effective.

But they're doing it For the Children!

 

[retired1]

Moved to Media and General News.

Topic already being discussed here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/media-general-news/464048-news.html