We need a Nicotine to Voltage Chart

[John Phoenix]

I have noticed it, others have noticed it.. Its when you go to High Voltage e-cigs the mg strength to voltage your used to vaping at seems suddenly stronger.

We need a chart that suggests, 18mg at 3.7v will seem like say 24mg at 5 volts and so on.

I have no idea how you would produce such a chart but I think it's needed and useful. It's such a common occurrence, I wonder why no one has yet tried to make one.

 

[fray]

How would higher voltage increase the absorbtion rate of nicotine?

 

[Eddie.Willers]

This is far too subjective to work.

The juice may be vaporized faster at higher voltages, but the quantity of nicotine in the vapor should not vary a great deal from one voltage to another. Of course, the total volume of vapor produced and inhaled may be greater, which would suggest that more nicotine is taken in for absorption but whether it's enough to make a detectable physiological difference?

YMMV - hotter vapor might just give better TH and the feeling of more nic.

 

[Timothy Cullen]

well whether its psychosomatic or not. i do agree the higher the heat makes it feel like im getting a better nic rush. running lrs at 3.7 i vaped 24mg all day. but when i slapped a new DC on at 4vs i actually have to put my pv down. so my 2 cents is it needs to get investigated for sure.

 

[John Phoenix]

Yes yes. I know.. that's why this is so puzzling. I would think the only argument that would make sense is getting more vapor. but it doesn't look like that much more vapor unless it's tightly condensed and you don't notice it. All I know is many people have noticed this effect so for whatever reason it must be real.

I know I get 'nic'd out' easily on 18 mg with 5v where I can puff 24mg chain vaping on 3.7 and it not have the same effect.

 

[Cranston McCloud]

I noticed it too. Now I do 24mg juices on my eGo's with 1.5 ohm LR atties and 18mg liquid in my variable volt device. Not a real problem since I have plenty of juice at both strengths. I figure when I run out of the 24mg's, I will start mixing my own, or stay at High Voltages.

 

[TheGreekTitan]

There is definitely something to it. I was using a tornado tank for 3 months and all is well. All of a sudden 1 of my dogs started acting really strange. He was panting and scared almost. I'd take him out and have to literally carry him back inside. It happened for about a week and I was going to take him to the vet when my wife said "It didn't start happening till you got that thing." The day he started acting odd was the day I got my Provari. I was puffing away like a mad man on my couch like I always do. But, now I was hitting at 4 - 4.5 volts. I stopped using the Provari inside immediately. Guess what? Next day and from then on (over a month), no problems whatsoever.

That said, I think a little research is a GREAT idea!

 

[MadmanMacguyver]

I believe you can base it on this
1) higher voltage=higher temp=smaller vapor droplets=easier to absorb
2)Hv coils are more wraps thus more surface area recieving heat...(I vape at 7.4-8v+ with 5 ohm cartos and short fast draws)

 

[AttyPops]

Lol. No offense, but a thought occurred..... Did we ever obsess this much with cigs? If someone handed you a cig, and it was full flavor, and you usually smoked "lights"... would you have to go to a chart and look it up? Get the FDA stats on it?

lol. I think a lot of this is experiential. That's not to stop you from making the chart, it might be useful if you can figure out how to do it reliably. It's just funny how we vapors go on sometimes. AND.. it's a valid point, since the effect of e-cigs is different than smoking. I think that you do have to be more aware of your nicotine and pay attention to your body. Higher voltages just make vaping more efficient, less frequent, for me.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

If it tastes good and it's in that "sweet spot" for you, then vape the living hell out of it!

 

[wv2win]

How would higher voltage increase the absorbtion rate of nicotine?

It doesn't. I believe the OP may be thinking about the better throat hit that comes with higher voltage devices and thinking the the better TH comes only from the nicotine. There have been reports that when a person moves up to 5 volt or VV PV's, they are able to lower their nic strength because you don't need as much nic to still get a good throat hit due to the warmer vapor produced from higher volt batteries. 95% of throat hit come from higher nic strength and higher voltage (5 volt/VV).

 

[AttyPops]

As mentioned, one (unproven) theory is that higher voltage vaporize the juice better, producing either more, denser, or smaller particles of condensate and it changes absorption slightly (because it's more effectively delivered). Would be an interesting thing to test.

Anyway... I agree with some posters above... it does change it/make it more effective. TH SH (throat hit, shmoat hit ... lol... srry wv2win)

 

[fray]

We don't even know how much nic is absorbed through regular vaping to a resolution close enough to put even one dot on a chart.

 

[jayvolt]

There in lies a MAJOR problem. We need a baseline before we start on charts. I did notice I was a little "light headed" on a 6v hit once but I vape at 8.5 -10 watts on my Darwin all the time and don't really notice a change in nic levels compared to a 3.7 volt device on 2.o Ohm atty's. Each person is decidedly different though.

 

[JW50]

If it tastes good and it's in that "sweet spot" for you, then vape the living hell out of it!

E-cig taste good like an e-cig should.

 

[GERGOZ]

oh my !

i love that kinda talk !

c/o WomanOfHeart

 

[JW50]

To me it seems at least plausible that the temperature of the vape changes absorption into the body of the nic and changes how taste buds respond to the flavors. In some cases, so it seems, better flavor at lower temp and in other cases less flavor at lower temp. And depends on whose taste buds are used. Doubt there is any exact answer for any particular individual. Seems plausible that higher temp causes more "irritation" to throat. Some look for that "irritation" - some not. But does seem that the question of nic blood content of voltage 1 versus voltage 2 for same e-liquid volume could be answered. But would it tell us anything meaningful. How much of nic in blood causes "effect"? Any science on the issue?

 

[jayvolt]

Levels of nic in the blood are somewhat inconclusive as well though,as they depend on tolerance. A study could be done to prove the effectiveness of delivery but that would be skewed by vaping methods, blood chem, hydration, and few other wild cards I am sure I am not thinking about. A really close to accurate ballpark I think is as good as it is gonna get, but I would damned near pay for THAT.

Till then vape, if you start to feel bad or off, stop. You can overdo ANYTHING and this is no exception.

 

[JW50]

Jayvolt - Seems reasonable to me. An aside - is Jayvolt less than a KV?

 

[jayvolt]

Slightly