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Hey all, I have a question for the experienced diy'ers out there to help me solve a problem.

I recently received a new bottle of 100mg nic from a supplier I've used before and a day or two later received new flavours from a different vendor that I've also use many times.

One of the flavours I was particularly excited to use was Capella Pear. Like a child with a new toy, I ripped open the parcel the second I walked in the door and mixed up a batched of pear according to recommended percentages (10%).

Of course I tried it immediately without any steep, actual time or artificial, and found the taste....peary!

Just what I was hoping for:)

I put the bottle away for the night and tried it in my dripper the next morning. Still tasted pretty good but there was a weird "wet paper"ish aftertaste now. I had also mixed up a 5ml test of Inawera Mango (@3%) the night before so tried that. Same aftertaste. The Inawera Pineapple I mixed at the same time, same aftertaste.

There were two common denominators in all these mixes; new nic and new vg (which a friends wife got from the pharmacy she works at).

This morning I made test batches of 100% vg (new) no nic, 100% vg (old) @3mg nic and grabbed a bottle of salted custard I'd prepped and set aside for steeping a couple weeks back (before I received any new supplies). I then cleaned/re-coiled/re-wicked 3 drippers and sat down to test each and isolate the problem.

Oddly, both the 100% vg new and old/3mg have the aftertaste.

I went through my vape cupboard tasting old mixes thinking I was suffering from vapers tongue but all was as it should be.

Any ideas?
 

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vape the VG alone and see if you have that taste if not then make just the base (No flavor) and vape it. I would suspect it's the new NIC that you got or the containers your mixing in are leaching something into the mix. What's odd is your getting the same taste from the new VG no nic and also the old vg with 3mg of nic. WHich is why I said to look to the mixing containers for a leaching problem. Try mixing in a glass container. But most importantly do these tests with no flavoring so you can narrow this down.
 
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Ok, tried both vg's, new and old, straight from the container using a glass pipette washed and rinsed with 99% alcohol and no aftertaste.

Rinsed the pipette and added 0.1ml of the new nic to 10ml of the old vg (in a 50ml glass beaker).

Aftertaste of wet paper.

Repeated process with same nic and new vg.

Aftertaste of wet paper.

It's definitely the new nic!

Crappy because it'll be middle of next week before I can replace it:(

Thanks!!!
 
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Cotton wicks taste like wet paper to me.

Any chance you tried a new brand or are using a new package of your usual brand that may have changed?
Same cotton for months now, it's the nic.

Odd, the Capella pear has some weird aftertastes too.

I filled my tank with a mix and get an artificial sweetener taste from it.

Thanks for the replies:)
 
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Ok, tried both vg's, new and old, straight from the container using a glass pipette washed and rinsed with 99% alcohol and no aftertaste.

Rinsed the pipette and added 0.1ml of the new nic to 10ml of the old vg (in a 50ml glass beaker).

Aftertaste of wet paper.

Repeated process with same nic and new vg.

Aftertaste of wet paper.

It's definitely the new nic!

Crappy because it'll be middle of next week before I can replace it:(

Thanks!!!

I completely agree. Seems to be the NIC. Where did you get it?
 

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Hey all, I have a question for the experienced diy'ers out there to help me solve a problem.

I recently received a new bottle of 100mg nic from a supplier I've used before and a day or two later received new flavours from a different vendor that I've also use many times.

One of the flavours I was particularly excited to use was Capella Pear. Like a child with a new toy, I ripped open the parcel the second I walked in the door and mixed up a batched of pear according to recommended percentages (10%).

Of course I tried it immediately without any steep, actual time or artificial, and found the taste....peary!

Just what I was hoping for:)

I put the bottle away for the night and tried it in my dripper the next morning. Still tasted pretty good but there was a weird "wet paper"ish aftertaste now. I had also mixed up a 5ml test of Inawera Mango (@3%) the night before so tried that. Same aftertaste. The Inawera Pineapple I mixed at the same time, same aftertaste.

There were two common denominators in all these mixes; new nic and new vg (which a friends wife got from the pharmacy she works at).

This morning I made test batches of 100% vg (new) no nic, 100% vg (old) @3mg nic and grabbed a bottle of salted custard I'd prepped and set aside for steeping a couple weeks back (before I received any new supplies). I then cleaned/re-coiled/re-wicked 3 drippers and sat down to test each and isolate the problem.

Oddly, both the 100% vg new and old/3mg have the aftertaste.

I went through my vape cupboard tasting old mixes thinking I was suffering from vapers tongue but all was as it should be.

Any ideas?
I'm just getting back into DIY. When I tried it before at one point I ended up getting a bottle of VG from a pharmacy. I got an aftertaste in everything I made with it. It was almost a wet straw taste. I never did figure it out. Since getting back into the it the only place I get my VG is essential warehouse and no aftertaste in it what so ever.
 

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I'm just getting back into DIY. When I tried it before at one point I ended up getting a bottle of VG from a pharmacy. I got an aftertaste in everything I made with it. It was almost a wet straw taste. I never did figure it out. Since getting back into the it the only place I get my VG is essential warehouse and no aftertaste in it what so ever.
I tried the VG on it's own and it's not the problem. The last batch I bought was pharmaceutical grade and is probably the best I can buy in my area.

I've figured out the harshness was due to my nic and the wet paper taste is the Capella Pear...which sucks because the main note of this flavour was exactly what I was looking for.

Any ideas on a better Pear flavouring?
 
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I completely agree. Seems to be the NIC. Where did you get it?
Got it from a supplier in British Columbia.

I also wondered if the problem isn't at least partially due to buying 100mg nic then mixing at 3mg.

I typically buy 48mg and haven't had any problems but using such a strong concentration opens the door to mixing above my required strength by adding even a few drops more than I need (on small batch mixes).

The supplier replaced my nic with 48mg strength and no problems so far.
 
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Capella's flavors do change over time. I would give it two to three weeks steep before I would give it the definitive heave ho. Their ( cap ) Green Apple has a weird almost chemical taste at first, then it tastes just like its supposed to after a few weeks.

Another flavor that has a "peary" taste to it is TFA's Quince, it does not turn me on any, but it does remind me of pears. You can try that one, I've mixed it with RY4 Asian for an Asian Pear that was OK, but I'm not much on pears.

I wonder how many awesome juices go down the drain before their time, due to impatience. Of course, a turd will always be a turd, but you have to give it its due before the final flush.
 

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Capella's flavors do change over time. I would give it two to three weeks steep before I would give it the definitive heave ho. Their ( cap ) Green Apple has a weird almost chemical taste at first, then it tastes just like its supposed to after a few weeks.

Another flavor that has a "peary" taste to it is TFA's Quince, it does not turn me on any, but it does remind me of pears. You can try that one, I've mixed it with RY4 Asian for an Asian Pear that was OK, but I'm not much on pears.

I wonder how many awesome juices go down the drain before their time, due to impatience. Of course, a turd will always be a turd, but you have to give it its due before the final flush.
You're right, I mixed a 10ml and just left it in my vape cupboard. I'll check it in a couple weeks to see if that weird aftertaste goes away.

My worst habit isn't so much throwing out bad mixes (my cupboard is full of them;)). My bad is doing a really quick mix before heading out of the house and not remembering exactly what I did!

I typically save all my recipes but there's the odd time I don't and for some reason, those turn out being some of my best mixes!
 
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I am just trying to imagine what the flavor of 'wet paper' might taste like.
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What usually turns me off is if the smell of the vapor is bad ... I had some juice once that smelled just like burning electrical wires ... not nice!
I had one that tasted & smelled like Jergens Original Lotion. Was supposed to be a custard. That's a cherry scented lotion, so I guess it had cherry in it. I poured it out, then had to soak my Kayfun in hot, hot, hot soapy water twice, rinsed in vinegar just to get the smell d taste out. Had to take the bottle outside to the trash because it just reeked. This is known as as a patooey-spit-spit flavor.
 
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