You really do just skim over post don't you? The 10w was in regards to another posters off comment.
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What do you think about temperature control devices?
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You really do just skim over post don't you? The 10w was in regards to another posters off comment.
This. People used to say this all the time. "15 watts is 15 watts on any atty with any resistance -- you will get the same vape every time."
It's BS and not true at all. I vape subohm at 30+ watts. I would die coughing if I put 30 watts to my old 2 ohm protanks.
I'm sure that I read that adding water to VG lowers the boiling point of VG and that VG is a bigger culprit for aceloins (spelling?) than PG because of that. I vape 90% VG and 10% distilled water mix, but I use low watt devices. I think decomposition of VG/PG and of flavorings is an important topic for those who are looking at higher voltage/hotter temp vaping.
The below thread has a few links that may be helpful in your research:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/atomizer-issues/16209-boiling-point-vg-vs-pg.html
The below thread has a few links that may be helpful in your research:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/atomizer-issues/16209-boiling-point-vg-vs-pg.html
I read this whole thread.
I wish I felt more comfortable replying with relevent inquiry as I am interested in TC but I guess I am just a bit turned off by all the seemingly heated rhetoric.
I like to vape, and I know you guys do too so at least there's that - cheers!
I wish I felt more comfortable replying with relevent inquiry as I am interested in TC but I guess I am just a bit turned off by all the seemingly heated rhetoric.
I like to vape, and I know you guys do too so at least there's that - cheers!
You really do just skim over post don't you? The 10w was in regards to another posters off comment.
I read every post. Either you're not making sense or you're making a bad point.
Explain what you meant.
You will never get an unbiased DNA comment from a DNA shill. {Someone with a business interest in Evolve}
I will patiently wait until the market is saturated with many choices in TC. It is then and only then that I will consider purchasing one. It will get MUCH better than the one choice we currently have, IMHO.
You will never get an unbiased DNA comment from a DNA shill. {Someone with a business interest in Evolve}
I will patiently wait until the market is saturated with many choices in TC. It is then and only then that I will consider purchasing one. It will get MUCH better than the one choice we currently have, IMHO.
Now I get it...
I'm waiting for ProVape's version...
Sold my sx mini, got slightly intoxicated from drinking away my sorrows to it's departure, and ordered the rdna. Best drunk buy ever, jumbled screen and all. I've never had such a wonderful vaping experience. Now I'm tempted to buy the smaller version.
Useful yes, Necessary No. Sure you can set LOW and maybe Never reach the Temp limit, but then what is its use in the situation?
Babble and sideways comments do NOT help the argument for TC. I have no issue with the Concept and see a future for TC devices but Short selling as the only way and insulting others opinions looses TC valuable ground.
Can you even run a minimal wind coil from NI-200 build at 10w?
Didn't start out as any kind of POINT. I asked a Question in response to another posters comment. READ UP^^^^^
So you obviously missed something.
Didn't start out as any kind of POINT. I asked a Question in response to another posters comment. READ UP^^^^^
So you obviously missed something.
No, didnt miss anything. You never made any real sense from this first response question. To which I asked, what? You did not clarify, then you replied with a tangential statement about 10w applications and TC, which was a silly response. Do you think you made a non-silly point? If so, what?
I was dabbling with temp control for a while after i got my Vaporshark. The ability to take very long drags on my drippers and the coil staying at low temperature was nice, however i vape 12mg and it gave me more nicbuzz than i enjoy ;-)
In the end, i realized that my vaping temperature without temp control is definitely below any 'point of concern' and that the inconvenience of dealing with Nickel or Titanium wires was not worth it for me.
"No dry hits" has never been a strong argument for me, as the total number of dry-hits i got in my year of rebuilding was.... 1.
All in all, a nice feature but for me personally it would need to work with Kanthal, or be more convenient to use with something like a sensor or other method.
In the end, i realized that my vaping temperature without temp control is definitely below any 'point of concern' and that the inconvenience of dealing with Nickel or Titanium wires was not worth it for me.
"No dry hits" has never been a strong argument for me, as the total number of dry-hits i got in my year of rebuilding was.... 1.
All in all, a nice feature but for me personally it would need to work with Kanthal, or be more convenient to use with something like a sensor or other method.
This is a little bit of a misconception, while sure it saves you from dry hits and throttles power in every situation you may or may not notice (such as after a drag), unregulated temperature singes wicking on an ongoing basis. Unregulated coils are far, far hotter than you realize, and it is partly the reason a lot of people have trouble with TC at first. They are used to 700+ degree coils and are cutting it down to 400.
It uses a sensor. Not sure why you would want to use an inherently inaccurate material for TC.
I am not sure you actually read my post. I had no trouble with temp control, nor am i vaping at 700F. I did side by side comparisons and found my unregulated vape to be about the same temperature i would get with temp control between 410-430.
Next, my wicks don't get singed. Perhaps they do for people that build with wires that have a very high heat mass. I tried those wires, and don't like them for that particular reason. Your statement is presumptuous to say the least.
It uses a sensor.... to measure the ambient temperature of the chip, from which the TC calculations are made based on resistance.
The sensor i was suggesting would be measuring the actual coil temperature on the coil. This is not to say that this would be a feasable or even working way for a temp control, but it would at least leave the choice of wire to the user.
I was not suggesting that Kanthal would be suited to be used in TC with the current resistance calculation method. To my knowledge this cannot be done at all.
What i was saying however is, that Kanthal is my preferred wire when it comes to handling and building for a multitude of reasons.
Nickel is finicky to build with, and my results with titanium, while better overall, were hit and miss.
I strongly believe that until a solution is found that works with a material that handles as easily as Kanthal and is as safe to use and dryburn, OR until studies come out that tell us that we absolutely must use TC or we are all going to die, TC is going to stay a sideshow gimmick with low adoption rates.
Your "low adoption rates" based on your findings are not congruent imo...
Majority of vapers imo wouldn't go so far as to say they've only had 1 dry hit, even if they were using thinner kanthal.
The difficulty of using Nickle vs eliminating dry hits is lopsided.
The benefit far outweighs the trouble (negligible).
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