Check out this new study:
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What is released into the air in the vapor?
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Thanks for the link, Imagine. That is similar to another study I saw about two months ago. It also indicated a very low to negligible level of "air pollution" from vaping. This may actually be the same study since it brings the same caveats to mind. There was no test of the room air prior to either session to establish a baseline and there was no monitoring of the level of chemical in the blood streams of the participants. Some of the chemicals mentioned are also components of common items, such as furniture, and common finishes, such as paint and stain, and may have been present in some quantity prior to either test. This is not to knock the study or try to dimish the results. I'm just trying to point out what the "nay sayers" will harp about if and when the report ever makes a mainstream news source.
Oh there you go. Just print that out and carry it around with you for the next time someone complains about second-hand vapor! It would be interesting to see charts of other stuff too (like household stuff), just to see how it compares.
Thanks for posting this.
I'd hate to be a part of that smoker's session. It sounds like those airport smoker's lounges where you walk into a dense cloud of thick smoke in a sealed room. I agree with Awsum140 that a baseline should have been provided, but even without that you can plainly see how small the numbers are for 2nd hand vape.
I'd hate to be a part of that smoker's session. It sounds like those airport smoker's lounges where you walk into a dense cloud of thick smoke in a sealed room. I agree with Awsum140 that a baseline should have been provided, but even without that you can plainly see how small the numbers are for 2nd hand vape.
Oh man, There was this jazz bar next to campus when I was in college. You would open the door to that place and a thick cloud of billowing smoke would roll out.
Man I love that place. Of course this was prior to smokers being demonized and a 10th class citizen.
Does the baseline matter if its the same in both scenarios? Then we are just looking at a delta.
To me, no baseline doesn't mean much. On the other hand, to nay sayers, my guess is that they would be the first to point out that without a reference, prior to any smoking or tobacco use, so the results can be questioned.
So what would the baseline be? People just breathing? People inhaling straight pg? 50/50 pg/vg mix?
Although I know that ecigs do not hurt people with second hand smoke or chemicals, etc., I do have to admit that I am still getting a slight film from the glycerin on my car windshield. hmmm....That sort of makes me wonder if I'm getting a slight glycerin film in my lungs? Maybe I'm wrong and I'm hoping it's still better than cigs. Maybe I shouldn't have even voiced my slight worry. I dunno.
The baseline would be an analysis of the air in the room after cleaning the room but prior to any smoking, vaping or any other activity in it to establish the exact contents of the air. In terms of scientific method, it would be a "normal" thing to do.
Remember that glycerin, assuming that is what is causing the film, is a vegetable, organic, based product. Our bodies would treat that very differently than your windshield does. Only a guess, but I am guessing that it would be absorbed very easily by the mucous membranes of the motuh and throat as well as the lungs and leave, basically no residue. I also assume (that word again) that absorbtion of glycerin, or polyglycol for that matter, is not harmful to humans especially in the relatively low amounts that even a heavy e-cigarette user would experience.
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I did a search yesterday using the information Imagine posted and there is a bunch of papers that have been released from the SRNT Conference on ecigs, some good and some not so good but all have conclusions that would lead the reader to believe Vaping is much heather than smoking analogs. They need a Conference to figure that out? Must be a Government run Conference... Most of the papers are contained in the SRNT website which you need to be a member of with a password to view them, so what's the big secret? I wonder if anyone in our community is a member and could post the Abstract of some of the findings? The one study represented by the information posted by Imagine seems to be a very small portion of the topics discussed that are related to the benefits/hazards of Vaping.
The problem is that it probably doesn't support the general attitude that nicotine use is inherently bad. Then there is the minor problem that the whole e-cig industry is untaxed, at least in the way that tobacco is taxed. If there was a general understanding that there was a low to negligible health risk use would probably skyrocket and the government would miss out on a major revenue stream. As soon as a method of regulation and taxation is worked out I think we'll see a big increase in these types of studies. For the moment it just ain't profitable enough for the right entities, yet.
Just my opinion, worth what you're paying for it, your results and mileage may vary, no warrantee or guarantee is expressed or implied.
Just my opinion, worth what you're paying for it, your results and mileage may vary, no warrantee or guarantee is expressed or implied.
Seeing that big tobacco is getting into the act, we may see studdies financed by them.
Are you sure that film is from ecigs?
Even my wife's car which has never been smoked in or vaped in gets a film on her windshield.
Well, I would imagine it is from ecigs since it is only on the driver's side and on the same area of my windshield that I used to get a nicotine layer on it. But like awsum said, I still think it's better than having nicotine and tar on my windshield and it doesn't seem to collect as quickly as when I was smoking. No one else has noticed anything like this? I'm surprised, but then again I don't clean my car as much as I should. lol.
I generally clean my windshield when I can't see out of it at night from the film on the inside....and I used to do some detailing. Think I'd know better LOL
I haven't really noticed any buildup from vaping.
I'm not suggesting that there isn't any or it can't occur, but I just don't see it in my car.
I still get a film but it isn't a black film. The smoke would give it a blackish film.
My wife's car always got a film on it too.
I think it is just interstate 75. The amount of crap I inhale driving 75 into work has got to be a pack of smoke alone. That truck this morning.. Now I recirculate the air and have a pleasant aroma of menthol, caramel, or cherry hovering as the black smoke rolls across my car.
My wife's car always got a film on it too.
I think it is just interstate 75. The amount of crap I inhale driving 75 into work has got to be a pack of smoke alone. That truck this morning.. Now I recirculate the air and have a pleasant aroma of menthol, caramel, or cherry hovering as the black smoke rolls across my car.
That may be a large part of it. I used to commute to Downtown Chicago and now I'm in rural Illinois with its clean air. I don't have to wash the inside of my windshield nearly as often.
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