What is the shelf life of liquid?

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CtryBoy

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Refrigeration is not a necessity (unless you live in texas and dont have central air or a root cellar) I keep surplus in refrigerator to avoid extreme temp swings cause that's a good way to ruin almost any perishable product

Cool and Dark is all that is required

Think the going theory is 2 yrs, but I've lapsed a little on my research into shelf life while trying to figure out which cartomizer to order

Room Temperature is an easier drip especially with 100%VG (Like trying to squeeze blood from a stone fresh from fridge) YMMV with different mixes of vg/pg/pga

Hope this helps and happy vaping
 

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Cool and dark place...in Texas...in the summer! (lol)

Thanks, guys.

Amen brother. Get smacked around for preaching the benifits of the almighty fridge from time to time, but round here its the only place that I consider safe for long term storage. Daily/weekly bottle stays on desk in air conditioned room no issue there, but I have to protect my precious :hubba: juice stash.

Tend to think of it in regular storage terms. Constant cool temperature not available in texas. Constant cold temperature.....in the fridge. While colder not better than cool its better than chestnuts roasting in the sweltering humidity and heat in my neck of the piney woods.

Again if I had an old fashioned root cellar that stayed ~70 ish year round that would be the spot for lots of stuff. As it is only place safe from the heat is the fridge in my case.
 

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Yes it is normal at first, and it will go away. When I first started vaping and got those cravings I would vape my way out of it or if I had some higher Nic juice I would vape that for a bit and that would do it. JMO

I Like to keep mine in the fridge.I Live in florida god help me but a cool place in florida is hard to find.I also want to know why i still want a real cig from time to time is this normal at first and will that want go away in time just wondering.

A wine fridge is also a great place to keep your juice, it is a perfect temp. JMO
 

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I also want to know why i still want a real cig from time to time is this normal at first and will that want go away in time just wondering.

Think of it this way PV --- nothing but nic (ok ok trace amts of other stuff)

Analog 4000+ chemicals plus nicotine, plus the effects of CO in blood stream, plus well who knows. Theres even one chemical that seems to reduce effect of nicotine so explains why I could smoke 2 pks a day and now only vape from time to time. Go figure.

My biggest temptation is friends that smoke. :facepalm: I'd love to share, but aint gonna happen get your own :D just kinda gets the saliva flowing when I'm around it even though I now cant stand second hand smoke, it makes me want to sneak a toke. Down to 1-2 a day average and some days dont even think about it. Again, always nice to have some high nic to add to carto when I feel a super strong urge, but want to fight it off.
 

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Lol asked this in another thread but no one responded, im still wondering about vaccum sealing? its temp and air that oxidizes things, so most perishable things last longer vaccum sealed why not juice?

First you'd have to find the right container to store the liquid in and work with your machine. I've looked at them from time to time, but not sure how well they work with liquids or the smallish containers most use. Vacuum sealing would be a only if you already had one and cant sleep at night unless you do it, assuming you had a suitable container. Primary issue I believe with oxidation being an issue would be half filled bottles left for years and even then cant see it mattering much unless it's a big bottle (larger surface area). And even then, with the data we currently have not sure if this is 1%/50%/90% of the degradation issue. Would be interesting to see if there is any shelf life data on high purity or industrial mixes or possibly lab calibration liquids if any exist.

Most expiration dates are aimed toward best taste and have nothing to do with actual shelf life of a product. So flavored varieties may have less 'shelf' life in terms of taste, but still have the same nic levels. Until someone has access to a gas chromatograph or other way to monitor nic levels in test samples over the course of 5 yrs, we will all be guessing. Of course unless permanently banned or for post apocalyptic storage purposes this knowledge is not really meaningful or useful to the average consumer.

Really all comes down to how stable the nic actually is in the solution. If it has a 'half life' for lack of a better term, there will be a definite shelf life. If extremely long half life, factors such as contamination or storage temp and fluctuations could have significant effects on shelf life. If half life is short, think that would be the limiting factor and other issues would have little effect. Till then all we can do is go by any basic tincture best storage practices.

Light proof bottles --- Light degradation
Temp controlled environment --- Food/etc stores best at CONSTANT and cool temps
Rotation --- First in/first out (although some aging may be appropriate for extremely fresh juice)

Few measures beyond these could be used by average consumer other than keeping long term storage bottles 'topped' off somehow to limit surface area available for oxidation. Would consider it ambitious and futile to use canning methods/etc which allow you to eliminate oxygen prior to storage, replacing air with CO2/etc. Basic cleanliness and sterilization of mixing tools and reused bottles might be prudent, but dont see any need for an autoclave/etc.
 
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