What Is Up With All of These Crazy Coil Builds

Status
Not open for further replies.

Sirius

Star Puppy
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 19, 2013
18,632
76,259
North Carolina
Recently I was feeling a bit nostalgic about clouds so I built a 26ga set @ .233 ohms. This was the result:

037ba36a6208b3ee5a5ec68aaffafc83.jpg

[emoji1]


Sent from my XT1028 using Tapatalk
 
  • Like
Reactions: Visus

Sirius

Star Puppy
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 19, 2013
18,632
76,259
North Carolina
There is something in life called the 'law of diminishing returns'. This applies to many things, including vaping. What it means is, there is a point where effect/improvement PEAKS, and you start to get diminishing returns in terms of profit, or in THIS case, better vapor, per effort spent.

In other words, yes, making a GOOD coil improves the quality of vapor in HUGE ways. However, when it comes to clapton coils, or all the fancy coils, they might have some improvement...but they aren't worth it for the vapor who is simply trying to get the best vape for themselves. When you get into making advanced coils, you leave the realm of practicality and enter the realm of hobby/sport.
I agree with this..well said supermarket.

Sent from my XT1028 using Tapatalk
 
  • Like
Reactions: YoursTruli

Sirius

Star Puppy
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 19, 2013
18,632
76,259
North Carolina
I've gotten a lot simpler, as time's gone on, with my vaping. I used to spend a lot of time DIYing, developing recipes, collection gear, building genisis coils and mesh wicks, back when that was the thing to do.
Nowadays, I just vape. I have maybe a half dozen DIYs I make, one standard dual coil set up, that I know always works, and only use Reos with bottom feed attys.
Yep...If that is rule #62 then I'm Vaping by it. lol
[emoji12]

Sent from my XT1028 using Tapatalk
 
  • Like
Reactions: ReigntheGamer

Sirius

Star Puppy
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 19, 2013
18,632
76,259
North Carolina
Lately I've been feeling like vaping is taking up more of my life than it is giving back so I keep it simple. Fancy coil builds are something I'm going to pass on, I didn't need a hobby just needed to quit smoking.

But for those who enjoy it by all means twist away.
A simple twisted 28ga single @ around .60 ohms or so is a very good flavor coil
But I find NO difference in flavor from those and single untwisted 26ga at the same resistance really.

Sent from my XT1028 using Tapatalk
 

USMCotaku

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Apr 25, 2014
11,877
45,735
California
The Clapton doesn't really fall into the diminishing returns category.... With just a little practice they become pretty easy. I can make a strand at near full speed on my drill.... Enough done for a couple rebuilds in a minute. The Clapton is my favorite flavor build. I agree some coils are more difficult then the benefits they produce are worth though... At that point, you are building because you enjoy it.
Oh, my favorite cloud build is a stovetop... Another that isn't too hard to do...
611be8f2281c28f63a484b8feb30a710.jpg

Stovetop cloud on a panzer mech...
de735741769fc5f96ce97de2566dbf4c.jpg

29698372c82cfa3395694629a56854d2.jpg
e4f464fae4633c3cf0fbacdf9a1c18c5.jpg
f46431d07d27159e6c8bd84c9d828fa9.jpg
c42315577173d675220deee0c154f7a9.jpg

All mine :p
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jonnychadootz

vapero

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 13, 2013
2,830
3,566
monterrey,mexico
Ask those braided double helix Clapton alien tiger sleeper build coils remained me of either hippies selling their necklaces or pre teen girls making beat necklaces. I was happy with my simple coils....

Until ud began selling premade Claptons... Now I get it, the flavor is impressive, really really impressive, I've been using it for almost a week and every time I take a vape I still feel impressed by it

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
 

herb

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Mar 21, 2014
4,850
6,723
Northern NJ native , Coastal NC now.
I have tried nearly every coil type out there is the last few years and to me , a basic well done simple coil vapes as well as any of the fancy stuff, i never tasted any taste advantage with any coil types .

If there was a difference it was so subtle that i could barely tell , thats why i don't waste my time .
 

Visus

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Jun 4, 2013
1,598
851
55
United States
I have tried nearly every coil type out there is the last few years and to me , a basic well done simple coil vapes as well as any of the fancy stuff, i never tasted any taste advantage with any coil types .

If there was a difference it was so subtle that i could barely tell , thats why i don't waste my time .
The wicking action in the fancy builds for high power mods is unmatchable; flavor and vapor is subjective as always, and up to a panel for review..:party:
 
  • Like
Reactions: jonnychadootz

Mooch

Electron Wrangler
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
  • May 13, 2015
    4,015
    15,883
    The Clapton doesn't really fall into the diminishing returns category.... With just a little practice they become pretty easy. I can make a strand at near full speed on my drill.... Enough done for a couple rebuilds in a minute. The Clapton is my favorite flavor build. I agree some coils are more difficult then the benefits they produce are worth though... At that point, you are building because you enjoy it.
    Oh, my favorite cloud build is a stovetop... Another that isn't too hard to do...
    611be8f2281c28f63a484b8feb30a710.jpg

    Stovetop cloud on a panzer mech...
    de735741769fc5f96ce97de2566dbf4c.jpg

    29698372c82cfa3395694629a56854d2.jpg
    e4f464fae4633c3cf0fbacdf9a1c18c5.jpg
    f46431d07d27159e6c8bd84c9d828fa9.jpg
    c42315577173d675220deee0c154f7a9.jpg

    All mine :p
    Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

    How do you wick that stovetop coil?
     

    jbok

    Super Member
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Oct 27, 2014
    468
    412
    Virginia
    Im sure I'm going to get pelted here but I think all of these different coil builds are all psychological. I used to mess with all that crazy stuff and I found no difference between a simple coil and a complicated one.

    I mean it's cool if you want to do it for fun/hobby but for me it was a waste of time


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
    • Like
    Reactions: Libbydude

    josdanarm

    Senior Member
    ECF Veteran
    Jul 25, 2015
    86
    62
    44
    Two of the somewhat easier coils that produce (imo) better flavor and vapor are zippers and claptons but when you get into the more advanced stapled and fused coils I just think it's more of what flavor comes out stronger. Everything plays a part device build power and juice. Change just one and the flavor can change dramatically. The only way to know for sure if it's worth it to you is to try them out. Please use caution as some builds run low resistance and keep on chuckin fat clouds ppl...
     
    • Like
    Reactions: jonnychadootz

    Traijan

    Super Member
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Jun 24, 2014
    541
    353
    USA
    Lately I've been seeing a lot of posts and videos on various social media and YouTube of people building crazy coils. Like twisting wire then wrapping it with more wire or twisting wire and twisting it again, or braiding all sorts ok wires and then wrapping more wire around them. There are all sorts of crazy names the best one I saw was "Alien wire" lol. So what gives? Are there any actual advantages of people spending crazy amounts of time making these coils or is it just to see who can wrap the prettiest wires together? If there's a noticeable advantage to these coils then maybe I'll take the time to replicate some builds but as of now I just don't know how I feel about them.
    Most of the time I barely even want to wrap that single strand of wire around the screwdriver to make a single coil let alone make something like the Clapton, or Dragon's Nest or Alien wire.

    Hell, at this point I just leave my subtank sitting on the kitchen counter, with the tank upside down and full and the rba deck sitting all taken apart, knowing good and well when I get home my partner will have put a new coil in it and rewicked it for me as he just can't stand to see the tanks sitting taken apart and on the counter, honestly, way too much trouble to make all those fancy coil builds. They look really pretty but... I doubt if my taste buds are refined enough to notice any difference.

    It was fun and all to make the pretty coils in the beginning but now it's just a waste of my time. Just roll up a good utility coil and start huffing, or rather wait until my partner rolls me up a new coil and then start huffing. I guess you could say I've lost interest in vaping as a hobby at this point and now it's only due to habit much like when I used to smoke 1 to 4 pad, it was a habit.

    But I personally think it's more for the hobby of it than the actual benefit. But then again there are people that swear they can tell me if I've put 1 tsp of some ingredient in the food or if I've put 1.5 tsp in the meal so I suppose there are those that can tell a difference between coils. Personally I can't even tell any difference what-so-ever between horizontal coils and vertical coils, they both vape the identical same to me with the same liquid and the same wattage supplied to them.

    Go figure.
     
    Last edited:
    Status
    Not open for further replies.

    Users who are viewing this thread