What is With Japanese Cotton?

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Alright, I've been absent for quite a bit now, but I recently was in a local shop that stocks stuff that is ACTUALLY GOOD, and they had "Japanese cotton." What the heck? Took a look about here and there seems to be a few threads.... Why the craze? I've been using the same pack of organic cotton balls for probably a year now, and I have to wonder why people seem to think paying 500-1000% more is worth it. What is going on guys? Thanks.
 

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It shouldn't cost that much more though. It's only when the stuff - which is made for cosmetics anyway - is bought and resold by vape stores that it's ridiculously expensive. I bought my 140-piece pack of Japanese cotton for 35 sek ($4.5 or so) at a regular department store.
 

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It is the same thing as what happened with welding wire for making coils, I forget which company it is, but someone basically repackaged it and said it was an amazing vaping wire and sold it for a stupidly high price.
Some people will believe any old BS that they are told, I just wish that they would buy some of these Magic Beans that I have managed to acquire...


I am happy vaping with my economy cotton balls and bog standard kanthal wire.
 

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Alright, I've been absent for quite a bit now, but I recently was in a local shop that stocks stuff that is ACTUALLY GOOD, and they had "Japanese cotton." What the heck? Took a look about here and there seems to be a few threads.... Why the craze? I've been using the same pack of organic cotton balls for probably a year now, and I have to wonder why people seem to think paying 500-1000% more is worth it. What is going on guys? Thanks.

This is a good video to check out. Very informative.

 

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I don’t think that using Japanese cotton is a fad. I used to use cotton balls, but I found it tedious to unravel them and to find / make a patch with uniform thickness to roll my wick. With Japanese cotton I simply peel off a layer, roll it to my desired thickness, and then cut it from the pad. I find it a lot easier and quicker to roll a wick of uniform thickness and I waste a lot less than I did when using cotton balls. People say that Japanese cotton wicks better – I don’t have any personal empirical evidence to support that, I just find it a lot easier to work with.

I don’t have a problem paying $12 for many years’ worth of wicking material that is easy to work with that I can use to quickly and consistently roll quality wicks. I personally think that Japanese cotton offers advantages over cotton balls. If you disagree and think that it’s a waste of money then by all means, you should use cotton balls or any other type of material to roll your wicks that you find more economical.
 

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This is a good video to check out. Very informative.


I watched this video when it came out as I was intrigued by the Japanese cotton (and the Rayon), but the only thing I learnt from the video is that Phil uses far too much cotton. I would expect the wicking to be poor if I employed the same technique as he does - stick as much cotton as you possibly can into the coil (or hole in this vid).

If you wick your coils without using a whole plantation's worth of standard cotton then it works perfectly.

I will agree though with Firestorm on the ease of use of Japanese cotton over standard cotton balls, but for me the difference in ease is not worth the difference in price.
 

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I watched this video when it came out as I was intrigued by the Japanese cotton (and the Rayon), but the only thing I learnt from the video is that Phil uses far too much cotton. I would expect the wicking to be poor if I employed the same technique as he does - stick as much cotton as you possibly can into the coil (or hole in this vid).

If you wick your coils without using a whole plantation's worth of standard cotton then it works perfectly.

I will agree though with Firestorm on the ease of use of Japanese cotton over standard cotton balls, but for me the difference in ease is not worth the difference in price.
Japanese cotton isn't particularly expensive unless you buy it from vape shops.
 
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Alright, I've been absent for quite a bit now, but I recently was in a local shop that stocks stuff that is ACTUALLY GOOD, and they had "Japanese cotton." What the heck? Took a look about here and there seems to be a few threads.... Why the craze? I've been using the same pack of organic cotton balls for probably a year now, and I have to wonder why people seem to think paying 500-1000% more is worth it. What is going on guys? Thanks.

Go to an Asian market and purchase a package, I see your in the PNW, there's a few in Seattle. Search online if you can too.

... cotton is certainly not a fad, although some say it wicks and tastes better, some use it for ease of use. Many like there wicks a certain way in their builds, this stuff is as simple and as consistent as you can.

A recycled pic I took a while back, you can see the thickness is uniform, and you can cut it like paper.

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I was anti-Japanese cotton. Have a giant box of Sally's to prove it.
Recently, a juice company sent me a sample of a few pads just like what's pictured above with my juice order.
Since I had it, decided what the heck - I'll give it a try.

It is so much easier to work with than Cellu-cotton - orders of magnitudes easier, imho.
 

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I watched this video when it came out as I was intrigued by the Japanese cotton (and the Rayon), but the only thing I learnt from the video is that Phil uses far too much cotton. I would expect the wicking to be poor if I employed the same technique as he does - stick as much cotton as you possibly can into the coil (or hole in this vid).

If you wick your coils without using a whole plantation's worth of standard cotton then it works perfectly.

I will agree though with Firestorm on the ease of use of Japanese cotton over standard cotton balls, but for me the difference in ease is not worth the difference in price.

I am also going to agree with Firestorm and say that 12 bucks for years worth of wicking is worth the ease and definitely will not break the bank.
 
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I buy bulk packs of bleached Japanese cotton pads. I peel a stack of them into four layers each, boil them twice and lay them out on a towel to dry. Months of vaping for a few minutes work. Soft as a cloud, easy to tear into perfect strips, virtually flavorless, and they wick like a monster. Just a pleasure to work with. The unbleached organic pads work just as well - the bleached ones just look so damn perfect when I finish a rebuild.
 

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I will never go back to using regular cotton. I bought a lifetime supply of Japanese cotton pads about a year ago and I think I've used maybe 5 sheets of them. They need no "break in", impart no flavor, and they're extremely easy to cut into consistent strips. Once you figure out how wide the strip needs to be, you can mass-produce wicks.
 

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Thanks for all the replies. Honestly I never have a problem getting a wick to work properly now that I have practice, and I don't ever really notice a flavor imparted unless it's about to bite the dust or something went wrong with the coil. That said, it does sound like you guys are getting solid results. I have one last reservation though... What about Fukishima?
 

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Thanks for all the replies. Honestly I never have a problem getting a wick to work properly now that I have practice, and I don't ever really notice a flavor imparted unless it's about to bite the dust or something went wrong with the coil. That said, it does sound like you guys are getting solid results. I have one last reservation though... What about Fukishima?
Trust me when I say: use KGD or similar for a week or two then wick something up with cotton balls. Youll taste the difference! I was like "Blech!!" The first couple hits on a cotton ball wick are terrible after using KGD for a couple months.

As to your question, maybe someone has a Geiger Counter they can pass over their box of KGD. LOL!!!! Mine doesn't have a green glow when you turn the lights out! I wouldn't really worry about that...
 

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Trust me when I say: use KGD or similar for a week or two then wick something up with cotton balls. Youll taste the difference! I was like "Blech!!" The first couple hits on a cotton ball wick are terrible after using KGD for a couple months.

As to your question, maybe someone has a Geiger Counter they can pass over their box of KGD. LOL!!!! Mine doesn't have a green glow when you turn the lights out! I wouldn't really worry about that...

Hah! You know, I work with a bunch of nuclear engineers, and could easily have them pass a Geiger counter over my pack of Muji cotton which will be here any day now.

That said, I have tried both the KGD and the Muji. Both are equally good for vaping purposes. Same great wicking, no flavor being added. In fact, they basically look and feel the same too.

Because KGD received a pretty large response from the vaping community, the prices have started to rise. Muji, on the other hand, is still the same price. So, personally, I would get the Muji, and save yourself $5... :2c:

The Muji cotton, FWIW, is the same stuff being used in the Kanger OCC heads, just FYI.
 
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