What makes some smokers so resistant?

[Bullette the Cowdog]

The word you want here is ASKHOLE......A person who asks for your advise, yet does the opposite of what you told them.

Love that word!

Is it copyrighted?

Can I use it?

 

[Whosback]

The way I've always handeled it is to let a smoker who sees me ask me first. That way I'm not bothering anybody with it. I'll give um the whole nine yards if they ask though and a card from my favorite starter company and a warnin about those gas station ones.

 

[boshans]

She's simply not ready to quit smoking. Period. Her bravado about how, if she does it, it'll be "cold turkey" is just bluster. She has NO intention to quit, and until she's ready, she isn't going to do it. No amount of talking, guilting, nagging, complaining, reason, or logic is going to change her mind. I know. I used to be there. I even got divorced when I was in my 20's IN PART due to my smoking. My ex-husband smoked when I met him, smoked when we married, and continued to smoke for several years after that. Then he quit cold turkey and suddenly I was a piranha, a leper. A disgusting, smelly, ignorant fool that he didn't want anymore. But the more he carried on about it...the more I smoked. That and him finding a non-smoking girlfriend put a kibosh on that marriage.

It took me another 33 years or so to quit. And that was with e-cigs. Yes, I tried a few times with patches and gum and even Wellbutrin and whatnot. Got the ration from my kids about how I "needed" to quit. Big shows of spraying down their clothes with Febreeze every time they went out the door to go somewhere. But I couldn't do it. I'd look up things to try to find a way to do it..but nothing clicked. And nothing I did try worked. Until e-cigs.

After 43 years of smoking heavily I found vaping, and it "took" immediately. Haven't touched a cigarette (other than to throw them out) since Sept. of 2011. I talked to my present husband who smokes about trying and and he was willing...but he didn't have his heart in it, and ended up smoking for another 9 months before he made up his mind to commit. He's been smoke free now since last June.

I knew better than to complain about the smell when we was smoking. I knew how I felt when people nagged and complained to me. So I didn't say much about it, even though it had started to bother me. I didn't really mention it, or complain. I just kept vaping. And talking about vaping. Husband was bragging on me about how I'd quit smoking when NO one in the family thought I could do it. Finally one day (after I bought him an X2) he just stopped smoking. He had to be ready in his own mind. No one could make him take that step but him. Just as it had to be MY decision when I quit.

Damn, good post. I am in somewhat of a same situation now. Me and my girlfriend started vaping a little over a month ago, I stopped smoking analogs day one basically, she hasn't. She still smokes analogs, even though she has a good ecig, and she is getting nicotine. According to her she just "likes cigarettes". Which I really don't understand at all to be honest, after vaping I can't stand cigarettes anymore. I don't think she has vaped throughout a whole day yet without a real cig, so maybe it hasn't changed over in her mind that cigarettes smell and taste disgusting. Plus it's at the point now where I can actually smell what an analog smells like, I literally almost died this morning when she lit a real cig. I could not stand the smell at all, have asthma to and I thought I was gonna need my inhaler. Which is weird since I smoked for 8 years and it never bothered me as much as it did this morning. I have been guilty of nagging at her, "don't smoke in the ....ing house" I say everyday almost lol. I guess in my mind I didn't see how it was that big of a deal to just vape in the house and smoke outside, that way I don't have to smell it or make the apartment smell even more. Even though it's only been a month I completely forgot how annoying someone saying that to me was, or something similiar, when I smoked analogs.

 

[CGlassford]

Love that word!

Is it copyrighted?

Can I use it?

LOL Don't know about copyright. I think I ran across it in a "Funny Pages" thread on the Smokeless Image forum. My Hubby and I have been using it ever since.

 

[supermarket]

What makes some ex-smokers such hypocrites?

I don't care if I convert anybody. I did this for myself. If somebody is interested I'll give them a hand, if not I'll leave them alone and let them smoke. I'll be the non smoker I wish I knew when I was a smoker.

My first thought when I see threads like this. Especially how the OP claims the girl who doesn't want e-cigs almost gives her asthma attacks whenever she comes over from her smoke.


really? Are you joking or what?

So you smoked all this time, and you just HAPPEN to switch over to a new technology, and now anyone around you who smokes is giving you asthma attacks? I'm not saying it isn't true....I'm saying what about all those years YOU smoked? What about the people who used to be around YOU?



Honestly, we use e-cigs , we enjoy them, they are OUR thing. Cigarettes are what some others enjoy.

It reminds me of people who are atheist , and then they "find God"......and then they try to convert everyone in their lives....and they just "can't understand why others don't want to find God too!" Really? You were atheist all those years, you just happen to find God....and now everyone else must find God too, eh?



I'm not trying to be harsh, but the OP is really only seeing things from HER perspective. I'm sure there are MANY dynamics at play as to why the girl doesn't want to switch. And quite frankly, it isn't your business unless she comes to you and makes it your business.

Again, not trying to be harsh but you have to be willing to take a step back, and realize that e-cigs might be something YOU enjoy, but that doesn't mean others can't enjoy cigarettes.

 

[hvac999]

Some people are just hard headed.

 

[Mr.Mann]

One thing that I've found that makes people (smokers) resistant is that many of them have tried (even if not admitting to it) a cig-a-like. Even with those, I have seen that most smokers just don't know how to draw on the dern thing. I used to be able to produce a fair amount of vaper with those little boogers, but some smokers refuse to adjust their drawing habits and thus have terrible experiences. Maybe this isn't what you were referring to, but this has been what I have run into..

 

[NancyR]

A while back I read a post here from one of the vets who had a friend like that who wouldn't try vaping, her and the persons spouse got together and started only vaping flavors the person liked when they where around, and left a e-cig loaded with that flavor out all the time for the person to try. They did all this without saying anything to the person about trying it, and it worked, took a while but the person now vapes and has even helped convert someone else using the same method.

My personal feelings on it is that it worked because they didn't say anything they left the ball in the other persons court as to if and when they tried it.

 

[Aheadatime]

Well first and foremost, whatever. If she doesn't want to convert than she doesn't want to convert. As others have said, its her business and it's best to back off and just be there if she decides to approach you one day about it.

There are hundreds of habits involved in cigarette smoking outside of the cigarette itself, some of which our minds have tricked us into loving. Finding an ashtray, the ashtray size and location, the way you hold the cig, the way you ash, having a lighter handy, turning your back to the wind, putting the lighter away after a successful light, 'packing' a fresh pack of cigs, flicking the .... repeatedly even when it doesn't need ashing, outting the cig, even the routine of purchasing can be a psychological addiction. These things are overcome and realized on a personal level, and the ease/difficulty is different for everyone.

These addictions, along with the WTA's and nicotine steroids in cigs, are what makes the transition from cigs to anything else difficult, and what make people defensive about their habits. Its almost as if the habits defend themselves without the user knowing. Don't try to convert anybody ever, let them fight their habits and addictions on a personal level. It will make them stronger, it will make you a more likable person, and it will cause you less stress (bc you'll almost always fail).

I have several irl friends who continue to smoke cigs even after trying my gear. Some of them even bought spinners, novas, and quality eliquid and still weren't able to stop smoking. There is no reason besides the fact that they're simply not ready. They're not serious enough about quitting. They don't see it as a bad thing. These things must be seen by the individual first, and before then, any exterior interference will only cause tension.

 

[Rusty S.]

No one likes to be told what to do, and no one likes to be harangued. Seriously, would any vaper on this board have made the switch if people had been mashing their nose in it?

Play nice! Quit acting like ANTZ, and leave the smokers alone. You're probably queering the whole thing for them by giving them a hard time.