what method of vaping produces the most throat kick

[SeanFromIthaca]

I've got a bunch of 24mg juices and a couple of 30mg -- even though the Wyatt Earp I have has massive throat hit at 30mg, the Max/Boro doesn't seem to -- could this be because I have the Wyatt Earp on an atomizer from FSUSA and I use my original kit atty (might be lower quality) to vape everything else -- as much as I'd like to put some of these other juices into the FSUSA atty to test out whether they'll have better throat hit, I won't do that because I don't want anything but Wyatt Earp vaped on that atty...

so until I can get a couple more FSUSA attys, is there anything I can do in the meantime to get a better throat hit out of these juices? drip, cart or carto -- which has the best throat hit?

is there any other method I'm leaving out?

 

[DocWyatt]

The order for TH is basically as follows, IMO.

1. Drip

2. Atty/cart

3. Carto

For any stronger TH you will need to go low resistance - but you can't with your 510 (from your other post). Once you get your EGO battery then you can. The problem is that LR have a huge draw on batteries and will likely ruin a standard 510 in short order.

There has been some discussion of even their use for ego batteries - but the way I see things I will use them until proven otherwise.

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

okay, but how much of this is the atty do you think? I did drip some Wyatt Earp into this other non-FSUSA atty and it didn't hit as hard as when I vape it on the FSUSA atty through a cart -- maybe it's just the atty is going bad then?

 

[DocWyatt]

I am not the best person to comment on various brands of atty's as I have only used the ones that came with my EGO (Joye) and the Boge LR ones. I punted those and went to carto's after trial and error as the concept was too much hassle for me.

The WE is a strong flavor (I have it) and you need separate atty's for that flavor.

If atty's are similar to carto's in brand (and I am guessing this is very likely) then the atty will make a difference.

Edit: If you order the Ego battery I would strongly consider ordering the Boge LR cartomizers from LiteCigUSA. They are 2.0 ohms and i have not had any battery problems with them - thus far.

Another Edit: The TH with FSUSA liquid seems to be a bit light for many flavors (to me at least). For instance I have their Espresso. The taste is great - but little TH. Some of the TH is the juice.

For more TH go for 100% PG. VG has more vapor but less TH.

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

nice -- thanks doc!

with my affinity for Wyatt Earp you and I should get along just fine haha

 

[DocWyatt]

LOL, glad you like it. It reminds me of black licorice and I HATE black licorice, lol. I tasted it again the other day - was a bit better. Many juices need time.

If you like coffee flavors their cappuccino has much more TH than their espresso, IMO. I have 240 ml more of cappuccino on the the with their sale.

You are up late for NY. I am sitting here looking at charts on the market, lol. Fun, fun.

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

yeah it's by far my favorite -- I can't see how anything else can really compare, but maybe one day I'll be pleasantly surprised

I liked the Banana Cream Pie from FSUSA, but I'll probably need to get 36mg because it's not quite enough TH at 24mg -- plus I'm a little leery of the creamy flavors with the whole popcorn lung thing.. better safe than sorry -- probably just ask them if they use diacetyl

their Cherry Coke was nice too, but again, nowhere near enough throat kick at 24mg -- maybe with the eGo battery and the cartos you linked I can vape most things at 24mg -- we'll see

 

[BradSmith]

You can use a LR atty with anything it will screw on to. They say it will reduce batery life. That's NOT the problem the switch on them stinks including the ego. It will blow out the switch before it wears out the battery. As for TH it's the nic. I have vaped pure VG I have vaped pure PG. No difference and no TH at all from either one. OK VG is a little more mello but other than that no difference. You could vape vg or pg all day long with a 6 volt mod and not get any TH not one bit. Menthol crystals will add TH so does nic. A few other things vaped will add TH like vodka or Capsascin.

 

[DocWyatt]

Thanks Brad. I have been wondering about the LR debate. My thought was heck with it - I like them - if they eventually ruin the battery - so be it. I will buy more batteries.

Sites do say not to use a LR atty/carto with low capacity batteries though. But i don't have standard 510 so have never been concerned with it.

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

ooh capsaicin haha -- I'm a habanero and hot food lover -- I think I'll try that or maybe some vodka or something -- one drop at a time in these little 3ml bottles to see what happens -- thanks for the tip

but uhh, where would one come by capsaicin?

 

[DocWyatt]

I had to look up what haberno and capsaicin was - ha. I am not into chili hot stuff so no help there. I like spicy - but not hot. I thought maybe you had a few beers and typoed cappuccino ...ha ha.

FSUSA has sales on their 120 ml bottles. They had one the other day 35% off. Not sure if it is still going or not. FYI.

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

haha nope -- plus, I just noticed your name wasn't doc hollywood, it was docwyatt haha... duey

another thing I noticed -- the throat hit, or my perception of it, seems to change throughout the day -- if I let myself get dehydrated all the juices that I usually think have heavy throat hit like Wyatt Earp are really harsh, and all the juices I think have almost no TH seem to have at least SOME -- like about two hours ago I was REALLY dehydrated and I started noticing that the WE juice was starting to seem pretty harsh, so I drank like 50 ounces of water and now it seems like the WE has very little throat hit

I do notice that if you let the PV sit for a while between taking 2-3 puffs -- like 5 or 10 minutes, that the first hit or two seem to have better TH -- I guess hydration level is just another thing I'll have to take into account when judging throat kick

the more I vape the more I see this is somewhat of a scientific process haha

but the whole throat hit changing throughout the day -- you think it's probably ALL hydration level? I notice vaping seems harsher after I eat, but again, that might be because my bod is using water to process the food, so I need to drink more water before/after I eat maybe?

 

[BradSmith]

ooh capsaicin haha -- I'm a habanero and hot food lover -- I think I'll try that or maybe some vodka or something -- one drop at a time in these little 3ml bottles to see what happens -- thanks for the tip

but uhh, where would one come by capsaicin?

I'm not sure were people are getting it. On the other site (name unmentioned) people have said that it works but it can be really harsh. Like cough your head off harsh if you use too much. I just vape 48mg and that's all I can handle megga TH and I don't have to vape all day long.

I was only in Ithica once. It was the start of the Dead tour back in 87 or so. Nice place.

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

yeah I've been living here since '95 -- a little clique-ey, but big enough town that there are plenty of cool people

 

[DocWyatt]

Clique-ey generally = hotties. Nothing wrong with that....lol And yeah, I thought combining Doc and Wyatt was somewhat of a clever name, lol.

Edit: Keep in mind using aty/carts you have to top off every 4 or 5 puffs. Exactly why I eventually punted the concept. They do give a little better hit than carto's though, IMO, and likely why many still use them.

 

[BradSmith]

yeah I've been living here since '95 -- a little clique-ey, but big enough town that there are plenty of cool people

What more can you ask for right? I can't stand about 90% of the people so I just find the few people who will put up with me.

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

exactly Brad but no Doc, clique-ey in this case means, goth punks with blue spikey hair, nerds of all types from all over the world that go go cornell, giant jocks, rich preppie wannabes, hardcore hippies that smell like patchoulli and run around juggling sticks, and there's the townies, and most of them all only hang out with a handful of people, so there's lots of sub-cliques within the townie group haha

there are hot girls from each group, depending on what you like, but it doesn't have much to do with the cliques

definitely a strange town -- quite a mix

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

is it common for people to want more and more throat hit? I hope not...

 

[DocWyatt]

Well, possibly why I avoid BOTH of the "left" coasts....lol. Better not get into politics or this thread will change dramatically, lol.

Edit: As far as people wanting more TH that is EXACTLY why mods exist. They crank up the voltage to up to 6v to get more TH. Some can't live without it - some don't like it.

For instance, even though your 510 battery is technically a 3.7v device it actually delivers maybe 3.1 to 3.2v under use. But higher voltage doesn't necessarily mean better. I have a KR808 which delivers a true 3.7V under use and I do not like it.

I am a total technical tard, so this is way above my knowledge to even comment on - but it has more to do with the Ohms delivered (or something like that) than the voltage of the battery. This is why people use low resistance with their ego.

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

yeah you'll get that haha

I'm just a country boy livin in a 'big' city, so all these cliques are pretty foreign to me -- a really exaggerated and more eclectic/exotic version of what went on in my tiny high school

I have to say though, for the most part I like the fact that so many different types of people live here -- it's pretty cool