What to expect from the public at large

[DrMA]

I know this is not about ecigs, but, to me, it really put in perspective the otherwise perplexing willingness of so many average people to swallow whole the ANTZ propaganda, junk science, and lies.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...location-the-more-they-want-u-s-to-intervene/

The answer is, an overwhelming majority of Americans have little or no interest, knowledge, or comprehension about the larger reality that surrounds them outside the immediate vicinity of their armchairs.

 

[guambred]

Jeez, how stupid are we in this country, with so many dots on Alaska, Australia even the continental U.S. No wonder the general public is so easily swayed by the media.

 

[rothenbj]

I have to admit that this post got me to look as to were it was exactly in the former Soviet block and I was surprised that it sat on the border of Poland. That being said, the locations of those dots is amazing.

 

[claudebo]

I disagree dr, I believe that the public is not all that naive about e-cigs.

Most people know someone that has struggled with tobacco addiction,
and recognize the problems associated with quitting.

Most people at this point have been exposed to someone using
e-cigs and have found that:

1- The smell is not that bad.
2- The vapor quickly dissipates
3- The user is making an effort to quit
smoking, or has quit altogether,
and that is a good thing.

So I believe in a ground swell of support for e-cigs users.
as an alternative to smoking.

I think the public supports:
1: zero access to e-cigs by minors
2: limited public vaping
3: safety regulations of e-liguid ingredients.

As an example my doctor is in full support of me vaping.
Thinks its great and is curious about it, and says
that gets you off of smoking is beneficial.
However he would never come out publicly and endorse
e-cigs.

I think we worry too much about things that are in a state of evolution.
Pace yourself, this will be a multi year process.

Advocate e-cigs to the circle of people around you,
write an article to your legislators describing your personal
experience with e-cigs, testify if you have a chance.
etc.

Oh and enjoy your great new habit!!

 

[Mutescream]

Claudebo, you've either been extremely fortunate enough to surround yourself with extrordinarily enlightened people (that do not reflect the populace at large) or simply are overly optimistic. I've even found some smokers to be hostile and not see a difference in comparing vaping to smoking. All too many simply view it as an alternative version of tobacco use.

From my perspective, vaping has a serious uphill battle to avoid facing tobacco regulations and taxes.

 

[AgentAnia]

I know this is not about ecigs, but, to me, it really put in perspective the otherwise perplexing willingness of so many average people to swallow whole the ANTZ propaganda, junk science, and lies.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...location-the-more-they-want-u-s-to-intervene/

The answer is, an overwhelming majority of Americans have little or no interest, knowledge, or comprehension about the larger reality that surrounds them outside the immediate vicinity of their armchairs.

I'm not at all surprised at what the Washington Post found.

We live in a complex, worldwide culture today, where overwhelming amounts of information are available instantly. It takes a determined and focused act of will to stay current, especially in the fact of (also overwhelming amounts of) the many distractions offered up to us, never mind what's required simply to cope with life's everyday necessities. (I won't get into the quality of education being provided to our children, but that does enter into my own thinking...)

But putting this into an ecig context, I do shake my head in dismay at the people who, when presented with facts and science, refuse even to admit the possibility that they may be a Good Thing.

 

[Jman8]

What the public at large can reasonably expect from Jman: vaping everywhere, openly, with respect to their personhood.

 

[Dayglow]

I am not surprised by this. People in this country are so vastly uninformed about any manner of goings on in the world. The state of our national education system is a travesty and people expect the government to spoon feed them and trust that what they are fed is in their best interest as long as any number of hot topic buzz words are avoided so as to clue people in. The search for knowledge has been derailed by Honey Boo Boo and Snookie...




Actually it happened long before they entered the picture. If you were paying attention.

 

[Stubby]

Claudebo, you've either been extremely fortunate enough to surround yourself with extrordinarily enlightened people (that do not reflect the populace at large) or simply are overly optimistic. I've even found some smokers to be hostile and not see a difference in comparing vaping to smoking. All too many simply view it as an alternative version of tobacco use.

From my perspective, vaping has a serious uphill battle to avoid facing tobacco regulations and taxes.

Vaping is simply an alternative version of tobacco use. Actually it is much more of an alternative version of cigarette use (smokeless tobacco has about the same low risk as vaping). The point is that it is an alternative that is about 99% less harmful then smoking.

 

[aikanae1]

What they (the public) don't know is what we don't tell them about. It's on us to tell people about vaping.

 

[Mutescream]

Vaping is simply an alternative version of tobacco use. Actually it is much more of an alternative version of cigarette use (smokeless tobacco has about the same low risk as vaping). The point is that it is an alternative that is about 99% less harmful then smoking.

It's an alternative means to intake nicotine (which can be sourced from vegetation other than tobacco). What it has in common with smoking, is that it is inhaled. But, unless you have your pv set way too high, you aren't smoking. Unless you use cigalikes, it isn't alternative cigarette use.

It mimics smoking visually, which both helps and hurts us. It can be done well enough to fool our bodies and minds, to be effective in stopping smoking. It also makes others think it is smoking, which makes it easy enough to transfer the smoking stigma over to us.

We're an easy target to tax; we're being isolated and stigmatized effectively, having taxes levied against us and being told we can't do something because of what it looks like in some places.

 

[stan77]

I disagree dr, I believe that the public is not all that naive about e-cigs.

Most people know someone that has struggled with tobacco addiction,
and recognize the problems associated with quitting.

Most people at this point have been exposed to someone using
e-cigs and have found that:

1- The smell is not that bad.
2- The vapor quickly dissipates
3- The user is making an effort to quit
smoking, or has quit altogether,
and that is a good thing.

So I believe in a ground swell of support for e-cigs users.
as an alternative to smoking.

I think the public supports:
1: zero access to e-cigs by minors
2: limited public vaping
3: safety regulations of e-liguid ingredients.

As an example my doctor is in full support of me vaping.
Thinks its great and is curious about it, and says
that gets you off of smoking is beneficial.
However he would never come out publicly and endorse
e-cigs.

I think we worry too much about things that are in a state of evolution.
Pace yourself, this will be a multi year process.

Advocate e-cigs to the circle of people around you,
write an article to your legislators describing your personal
experience with e-cigs, testify if you have a chance.
etc.

Oh and enjoy your great new habit!!

i think you are right on the money.

 

[tommy2bad]

I duno, thinking about this I see fear driving people now more than anything else. The first reaction to anything new is suspicion more than curiosity. It's going to be hard to sell vaping to the general public because it looks so much like smoking. They have become fearful of smoking and are suspicious of anything that resembles smoking.
I doubt it's lack of knowledge, that's available to anyone with google, it's more an underline suspicion that everyone is lieing or manipulating them.
Can't blame them after all the recent history from weapons of mass destruction to financial meltdowns, people in authority have form for manipulation.