They have to be approved by FDA and go thru that whole nightmare process and what about no new products from the date FDA stated? It is getting crazy.
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Push come to shove I could vape for a long time on the hardware I already have. The trouble is that I get Shinyitis attacks from time to time and have to go find something that's new and cool to buy before they will calm down.
Well by using say DNA boards and plain parts, it would come under the deadline part as it wouldn't be "new" technology. Same could be said by building an RDA but using a common deck type that has been around a long time, it again wouldn't be "new" tech. In the end it'd be cosmetic changes only but then again who knows. What is to take effect could be thrown out and have a whole new list of rules.
Then of course there's always going back to making mechanical box flashlights, I mean mods, lol.
Government is all about the details. If you improve something a patent might be approved and it becomes a new idea or product. With FDA oversight the improved product could be deemed a "new" product. If they go back far enough to establish a range that only covers the original vape mods, then everything forward of that line has to be approved to continue sales.
I guess we could be pushed back into the original eGo and all the other hardware we started with. That's why the 2016 or later deeming date is so important.
General information concerning patents
I guess we could be pushed back into the original eGo and all the other hardware we started with. That's why the 2016 or later deeming date is so important.
General information concerning patents
True a patent could change things but you have to file for one in the first place though. Then honestly, what's the point? China cares not about patents or laws, lol. It would also depend on what type of patent is applied for as well, a design patent (as what I'm speaking of) would not make new tech.
A design patent only covers looks, like the shape of a Coca-Cola bottle, not the function or what is in it. So unless the ornamental aspect truly changes the delivery of the device, it would still be older tech. Again though a patent is pretty much useless, lol.
I really don't think what date they choose will matter. They'll chop and piece things in as seen fit, they always do. The only sure way to know what will be allowed, is to look at what BT makes.
It's all way too complicated.
The way I understand it, a new mechanism and how it's designed or updated could result in a new or revised patent. All the parts of an assembly and the way it works can be protected from copying and distribution.
The computer mouse was patented by Apple. The company I worked for invented it, but didn't patent it. Apple engineers were invited to meet with Xerox engineers at Palo Alt Research Center and share ideas. They saw the Xerox mouse and went back to Apple, made their own, and patented it. They also took with them the idea for the Xerox Star workstation computer invented by Xerox, but not yet patented. That resulted in the Apple Lisa workstation. Xerox had no grounds to stop them, but then patented and continued to make their own design for Xerox workstations. Legal got really intense on security and pushed patent applications for everything in the pipeline.
The problems we could face could include bans or high tariffs on imports from China. Certain items could be singled out and taxed highly to discourage importation.
You are right though, China doesn't care about U.S. patents.
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Xerox Invented the computer mouse not Apple. Xerox is the one that did not patent it. It was before Apple existed and was based on a trackball invented by the English before 1950
I was seriously thinking about putting in a big order with Fasttech before the September 24th tariff deadline. What is the consensus here? Will we be unaffected by he tariffs? Do these tariffs only apply to large orders and large companies? Anyone know what the truth is?
That was the main theme of my post. Apple patented it after stealing the idea from Xerox. The whole fiasco spurred Xerox into patenting and copyrighting everything eligible. Legal had egg on their face for a while.
To Apple's credit they bought Xerox' rights for this and other underutilized or non-utilized research and technologies. That's how they later made Firewire affordable for example, by uniformly adopting and mass-producing it (when others hadn't for its cost). Another such non-innovation which made things practicable for the rest of us…the 510 connector.
At least that's the way economy of scale used to work. But you'd never know it from the price of a car today.
Good luck.
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Right now the FDA has made itself the copyright, patent and development office thanks to the delegatory hubris of Congress.
Extract vaping from tobacco legislation or we forever live in uncertainty from the legal fiction of equivalent harm.
Good luck.
Extract vaping from tobacco legislation or we forever live in uncertainty from the legal fiction of equivalent harm.
Good luck.
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A bit late to the party... but are the vape products on the list of sanctions?
For me, I would vape through it, till it gets dropped, which i think might be when he leaves office.
For me, I would vape through it, till it gets dropped, which i think might be when he leaves office.
the tariffs announced will cover about 50% of Chinese goods when they go into effect so no doubt vape is in there somewhere. The Chinese have responded with additional tariffs of their own. Before it is over looks like all goods will be included.
This is ridiculous as it will not have an effect on manufacturing in the US. Companies will still produce where it is cheaper. To avoid tariffs some have already announced they will move to Vietnam or Thailand.
This is ridiculous as it will not have an effect on manufacturing in the US. Companies will still produce where it is cheaper. To avoid tariffs some have already announced they will move to Vietnam or Thailand.
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This is not going anywhere. Unless US labor drops to 2 bucks an hour or even a day, it's not gonna change. Manufacturing industry ain't coming back.
Depends on the industry. Boeing is still the largest exporter for the US because of its wide bodied jets (well, really their wing design that allow it to be economical to fly). Stuff like consumer priced electronics, not coming back.
Besides, we never consider our really big reimport from China of what we send them. US dollars. All in US treasury notes and bonds. Would be an ugly day if they stopped funding our budget deficits and debt.
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US still has a healthy base for stuff that needs real expertise. And it will still be up there for a while. Although the east is fast catching up. I think China just launched their first home made jet earlier this year or maybe late last year. India sent a probe to Mars which was cheaper than the whole Manchester United team combined (this really hurt, as we sucked in big games last year ). India is also sending folks to the moon. So the gap is slowly getting smaller.
). India is also sending folks to the moon. So the gap is slowly getting smaller.The coincidence is... I was reading the Boeing post and somebody forwarded me a joke on WhatsApp about Boeing!!!
US still has a healthy base for stuff that needs real expertise. And it will still be up there for a while. Although the east is fast catching up. I think China just launched their first home made jet earlier this year or maybe late last year. India sent a probe to Mars which was cheaper than the whole Manchester United team combined (this really hurt, as we sucked in big games last year
Sure other countries are advancing. But there's no guarantee on how they'll grow. Look at Japan in the 80's. It appeared destined to be the largest economy. Then things like citizen demands and a changing demographic nailed them and they've never recovered.
As China grows its citizens are expecting more as the middle class expands. That puts pressure on wages, which is why truly low end manufacturing has moved to places like Vietnam and Bangladesh. Add in the big disruption of a gender imbalance that occurred thanks to their one child policy, and folks selectively having boys over girls for cultural reasons, and this younger generation has 34 million more men than women? What's that going to do to the social structure and what effects will it have on economic growth?
Things can look rosy for an emerging country, but momentum is never guaranteed and the US has managed to stay competitive in high margin and high tech fields even with competition.
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