What's so great about Provaris?
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Many of us started with lesser devices. Put a fresh battery in one and the vape isn't bad. Vape a few hours though and things degrade, so you change the battery and all is good again.......for a while. I thought owning a Provari was just snobish, look at me foolishness. UNTIL I bought one. I got rid of everything else I owned within a week and bought a 2nd one. The thing about Provari is they build something that is VERY safe, VERY reliable, VERY well made and works perfectly. Put a fresh battery in and the vape is perfect all day long, regardless of how much power is left in the battery. Provape has programmed the chip in the Provari to regulate power consistently, regardless of charge on the battery.
The rebuildable crowd and cloud chasing community will likely not buy a Provari. But if you're looking for something that works every time you push the button and was engineered to last for years without any fuss, then the price of admission is more than worth it.
That's why I'm a Provarinati and I'll likely wind up getting the P3 when it's available too.
The rebuildable crowd and cloud chasing community will likely not buy a Provari. But if you're looking for something that works every time you push the button and was engineered to last for years without any fuss, then the price of admission is more than worth it.
That's why I'm a Provarinati and I'll likely wind up getting the P3 when it's available too.
At least according to the scope traces, the Provari has the flattest output of any mod over the entire range of battery life. It is not PWM. It can also output voltage below the battery, something the DNA chipset can't do.
And with a price of $130 for a blem, possibly a bit lower for a used one, I would consider it a reasonable purchase. My MVP2 and VV3 will be long dead before my Provari.
It fits a niche and does it beautifully. That of a high reliability moderate power device with DC output. If that's not what you're after, then there are certainly other devices out there that fill their niche, like the Reo.
You gave no reason as to why the mvp is "better" then the provari which is purely your opinion that you speak as fact. And again as seen In other threads you spam an online store for the purchase I'm really starting to believe you are an unregistered vendor looking to make a quick buck.The original poster asked about whether or not the Provari was good and a justified the cost. As an experienced user/owner I gave my input and suggested an alternative device that may better suit his needs so that he can save money. People are free to comment and suggest as they please to help others expand their options
I know that without a IMR high drain battery the Provari won't go to 6 volts. Possible you got a fake AW battery? As for me, if my Provari wasn't working right after receiving it back from Provape, it would be going back a second time. It seems as if you're not willing to send it back a second time. It sounds a little strange to drop that kind of money on a device and not take advantage of free repair services.
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I was going to post on your right to opine your thoughts, and the incorrect behavior (comes off as fan boyish like mac users if you dare say you like PC better) of berating you for doing so.....but you said it well enough yourself
It's just a nice, super dependable, quality, well-built item that works great and feels good to hold and use. People spend this much and more on a pair of decent sneakers that will wear out in year (or less), is the way I look at it.
(I do also totally ♥ my MVP, by the way, since it came up. Performance-wise, it stacks up really well against my ProVari Mini and my Semovar, and whenever it finally dies, I'll definitely get another. It's a different critter because you cannot replace the battery, but for anyone on a tight budget reading here, I'd absolutely recommend it as great option that delivers far beyond its price point.)
(I do also totally ♥ my MVP, by the way, since it came up. Performance-wise, it stacks up really well against my ProVari Mini and my Semovar, and whenever it finally dies, I'll definitely get another. It's a different critter because you cannot replace the battery, but for anyone on a tight budget reading here, I'd absolutely recommend it as great option that delivers far beyond its price point.)
I'm not saying that the Provari is outdated for MY use, I'm saying it's outdated compared to the current state of e-cig technology. Everything that used to make it special (except for the rugged build quality) no longer makes it special. Also, I thought I answered the OP just fine.
What technology might that be? Vaping at 30w? How about 50w? What about 200w?
All that non-sense isn't innovation, whoever tells you that hasn't seen the car battery I have downstairs under my hood. I can dish out over 1000w with that baby!!!
Oh wait, except that technology has been around almost 60 years.
Vaping at higher watts isn't innovative, don't let them cloud chasers tell you otherwise, ask Brandon if he could put out a 500w DNA chip when he released the DNA 15. He'd tell you of course it's possible but:
a) Why would you want to...
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b) What kind of battery would you need for a beast such as that, forget that what material are your lungs made out of?
All this higher is better fad isn't innovation in any form what so ever. True innovation is what companies like Provape are doing with the P3. That little chip can constantly monitor your battery and contact points, give you feedback on when it needs to be cleaned and when to replace your batteries. Not so true innovation comes from the silly YiHi companies coming with 500w DNA knock offs or the glued together box mods that vape at 200w.
I haven't read this whole thread, so hang me.
I only got 1.5 pages in, and hadn't seen anyone mention one specific fact, to the OP...
The Provari runs around 800hz(?), where as other devices typically run around 33.3hz(?)...
The difference there is the sound from your atomizer.
With the Provari, you get what sounds like white noise...ya know, what your TV sounds like when the cable goes out..."snow"...
With a device that fires on a 33.3hz chip, you get a rattlesnake sound...
What all that means is, the speed at which you chip pulses...which directly relates to the quality of your vaping experience.
Now, that alone isn't a major selling point (unless you get off on those kinds of things), but it certainly helped me decide!
I had a SmokTech ZMAX, and sat it side by side with a friend's Provari...
I used my carto tank on both, and the sound difference was very noticeable.
Oh, and Provaris are death-proof, and Made In the USA!
And they're heavy.
"Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable." - Boris the Blade
I only got 1.5 pages in, and hadn't seen anyone mention one specific fact, to the OP...
The Provari runs around 800hz(?), where as other devices typically run around 33.3hz(?)...
The difference there is the sound from your atomizer.
With the Provari, you get what sounds like white noise...ya know, what your TV sounds like when the cable goes out..."snow"...
With a device that fires on a 33.3hz chip, you get a rattlesnake sound...
What all that means is, the speed at which you chip pulses...which directly relates to the quality of your vaping experience.
Now, that alone isn't a major selling point (unless you get off on those kinds of things), but it certainly helped me decide!
I had a SmokTech ZMAX, and sat it side by side with a friend's Provari...
I used my carto tank on both, and the sound difference was very noticeable.
Oh, and Provaris are death-proof, and Made In the USA!
And they're heavy.
"Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable." - Boris the Blade
Agreed whole heartedly. While others are chasing the money in higher watts and cloud chasers. Provape is staying tried and true with what works very well and adding to that while making it as safe as absolutely possible for its customers. I mean the new p3 will not only tell you that something is wrong but will (on the device mind you) give you suggested fixs
Yes, 30 watts is great to have, and I could justify up to 100 watts pretty easily (quad-coil, 25W per coil). The fact that the P3 can't even do 30 is just DEPRESSING. Those P3 troubleshooting capabilities sound pretty cool, but I never really need to do troubleshooting on my mods.
But again that is you. Provari has built tested and upgraded it's device to be an everyone device from newbies to advanced vapors. Not just put it self in a niche corner of the market
Depressing to who? To you? Surely not the overall majority of vapers.
You never need to troubleshoot, that's like saying my car never breaks down because I always do oil changes. That's great until it does break down and you have no clue why it happened.
The point I was getting at is more power isn't innovation it's just more power. In fact more power if not done right could be a step in the wrong direction, a bad implementation could leave you wishing you never touched e-cigs, or worse sucking soup through a straw.
Either way I'm sure Provape knows their customers better than you do, trust me 20w for the all day vapor who wants a solid device they can take to work beat around all day long and still have it work.
That's exactly who they're aiming for and I agree with them whole hardily.
Some people will never be satisfied, nor would ever buy a ProVari- whatever the power. Perhaps they are just bored because the Fastech special or, 'what clone can I get for $15' threads are a little light on posts...
I disagree with the idea that Provape caters to advanced vapers in any way. Advanced vapers know how to responsibly use a 30, 50, or even 100 watt device but Provape refuses to give that much freedom. I personally despise the idea of my e-cig serving as my nanny- I don't need one!
There is great news for everyone here in this thread. The amount of devices out there are very numerous. You can get a device that will suit your needs no matter how you vape. But for me there is no better device out there than a provari. Every time I hit the button on either of my 2 provaris it vapes the same way until the battery stops working.
As a novelty one day I might get a 30 watt device or higher. But it will be just that a novelty. It's just not how I vape or will vape.
I watched a video with twisted 420 and he was trying to vape at 120 watts and it looked like it was hurting him. At the very least it wasn't something he was enjoying.
I smoked for 19 years at a pack and a half of Marlboro reds a day. Vaping with a kayfun 1.4ohm coil set any where from 3.7 to 4.5 volts depending on the juice is more than enough to satisfy my needs. To say that the new p3 isn't innovative or worth the money because they aren't into playing leap frog in the power war is just wrong. There is a lot of testing and technology that goes into something that works as well a provari.
To take it a step farther it seems to me to be a poor idea to attack a product that works as well as the provari when in fact the majority of people that are looking to quit smoking need have something in their hand that will work every time. The complaint about the price of a provari must come from people that didn't smoke. I was wasting $250 a month to feed my smoking habit. I now own 2 Provari that won't turn into ash and will be fixed if something happens to them for 2 years. Add juice and a tank and that is cheap money in my book.
To each his own but I will for sure own a p3 maybe 2.
As a novelty one day I might get a 30 watt device or higher. But it will be just that a novelty. It's just not how I vape or will vape.
I watched a video with twisted 420 and he was trying to vape at 120 watts and it looked like it was hurting him. At the very least it wasn't something he was enjoying.
I smoked for 19 years at a pack and a half of Marlboro reds a day. Vaping with a kayfun 1.4ohm coil set any where from 3.7 to 4.5 volts depending on the juice is more than enough to satisfy my needs. To say that the new p3 isn't innovative or worth the money because they aren't into playing leap frog in the power war is just wrong. There is a lot of testing and technology that goes into something that works as well a provari.
To take it a step farther it seems to me to be a poor idea to attack a product that works as well as the provari when in fact the majority of people that are looking to quit smoking need have something in their hand that will work every time. The complaint about the price of a provari must come from people that didn't smoke. I was wasting $250 a month to feed my smoking habit. I now own 2 Provari that won't turn into ash and will be fixed if something happens to them for 2 years. Add juice and a tank and that is cheap money in my book.
To each his own but I will for sure own a p3 maybe 2.
Hey now... if my Provari made me lunch, brought me breakfast and buttered my toast I'd buy 10 of them right now. Heck, I may even be inclined to buy stock in the company. :0
Nanny... Seriously?!
'Advanced' vapers aren't the ones who need 100 watts, 4 coils and a mess of cotton to get a good vape. An 'advanced' vaper can get a great and satisfying vape from an eGo with a clearo or ProVari with a carto-tank...
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