What's under your lip/in your nose right now?

[Dredbull]

YA they do but honestly not much more than getsnus has it.

I am planning on a big enough order with a few changes to get them and a icetool.

 

[slybootz]

All this snus buying going on makes me think that there is still confidence in the availability of snuff! Can anyone confirm that NicRush and MrSnuff are in good standing now that they are overseas?

After a bit of digging at snuffhouse, I found a post from Dave(Mr. Snuff) on page 9 of the 'Latest update on PACT' thread. Dave wrote:

Now that this law has passed, I would like to tap into the collective brain-power of this erudite group. I am not a lawyer, and hence may be completely off-base, but:

1. It seems to me that this law is likely to be challenged in court
2. There is a reasonable chance it is unconstitutional and/or goes against Indian Nation treaties.
3. If 1 and 2 are valid, there is a reasonable chance it will be quashed.

Given that 1,2 and 3 are likely to transpire then it seems completely nonsensical for us to spin our wheels getting registered in every State, County and City that have their own convoluted tax laws which they are not set up to enforce in any case. In 90 days we will not be able to ship to customers without paying the taxes FIRST. It is impractical to send a check in to the tax collecting authorities for every sale that is made. Even if we set all this up, if 3 happens then we will have totally wasted our time and money, and meanwhile made ourselves uncompetitive with our European friends.

Given that scenario, we have very reluctantly made the difficult business decision to shift all our operations over to the UK. This is, I hope, a temporary measure. As soon as the whole PACT nonsense works its way through the various courts, and when States and localities have automated their tax collection procedures (if indeed it comes to that), then we will re-open the US operation and shift everything back Stateside. You have no idea how it saddens me that things have come to this, but from a business perspective I see no other option.

The good news is that Tom at nicotinerush will also be staying in business. The details have to be hammered out, but both of us, from today, will be operating out of the UK. The same selections of snuff will be available as always. You will not notice any disruption in service. Eventually prices might squeak up a bit because obviously we will need support staff in the UK, as well as a warehouse and an office. But any price increase will not make us uncompetitive and of course will still be a whole lot less than the taxes which may or may not be collected by the Post Office when you receive your package.

This is how things are right now, and frankly, we have gone over and over and over every option we can think of. If we want to stay in business in the short term, we can see no other option. Long term it will more than likely viable to open up again the US. And that of course is what we are planning to do.

For what it is worth we plan on keeping the wholesale business stateside and fully operational. So if any of the other plans mooted on this site transpire then we will be here ready to ship to any licensed retailer.

Here is where I need your help. If you see any flaws in this plan, please speak up. If you see any reasonable alternatives that do not involve breaking the law and risking having to learn how to put on lipstick, please share your thoughts.

Speaking for both Tom and myself (we have spent a good chunk of the morning on the phone) we both really appreciate everybody's support during this chaotic time. You have no idea how valuable it is and (risking being maudlin here) heart-warming. It really does give us extra incentive to keep going. Apart from anything else, to just roll over to a pathetic, ill conceived, impractical, unenforceable law is not part of our modus operandi. Period. Why the hell snuffers in the US, this intelligent, educated group of 'outsiders', should have their innocent passions which affect NOBODY else, stolen from their enjoyment of life is beyond us, and is not something that will garner any support from our corner. Ok now I am getting on my soapbox, so I will stop.

All answers, comments, suggestions, advice etc very gratefully received.

Dave

Looks like both Mr. Snuff and NicotineRush will remain in business! Very pleased!!!

Celebrating with a big ol' heap of BullSnuff #2.5!

 

[slybootz]

Well, despite the fact that Tom's not filling orders this week, I decided to submit a NicotineRush order that I had sitting in my shopping cart for awhile. Don't really mind when it comes, just wanted to submit the order while the 10% off deal is still up. What I have coming:

Swisher TTSweet 1.15oz
Swisher TTStrong 1.15oz
Checkerberry 1.15oz
Jaxons English Toffee 10g
Molen's Oranjesnuif 25g
Dholakia White 4g
Dholakia Black 9g
Dholakia Temptation Grape Concord 25g
Dholakia Temptation Mango Cream 10g
Dean Swift Dean's Own 1/6oz
Toque Whiskey and Honey 25g(finally finished my 10g tin of this)
Sun Snuffs PARI 20g
5 small black smashboxes

Okay. No more snuff ordering until at least June. I mean it. I'm serious. (!!!)

Enjoying some WoS Vanilla right now as I prepare to snooze.

 

[AllCoExPat]

g'morning gang. Hope everyone's enjoying their Friday.

Starting off the workday with:
- General Mint
- Coffee

 

[olderthandirt]

And a good morning to you AllCo, every one else too!

The cat and I have had our morning coffee. Just checked e-mail and the Holy Tracking Numbers.

Appears the snus orders from both clubsnus and getsnus should be arriving today. Once again the neighborhood will see the Happy Dance as interpreted by OTD and shake their heads in..... hmmmmm, I wonder what they really think at these times?

Successful end of the week to all. Off to the work house with

Coffee
General OP
de Kralingse Macuba

 

[hittman]

Good morning. OTD, sounds like today will be a wonderful day for you with two orders coming in. We will patiently await the double happy dance. I have a busy day ahead, or at least I had it planned that way. I was supposed to have a guy in for a weld certification test this morning and so far he is about five minutes late and not scoring any bonus points. If he is too late, I will be leaving early for the afternoon service call I am supposed to do. Oh well, gotta roll with the punches. I am going to start the morning with:

OR cranberry
WOS idht#20
second cup of coffee

 

[Dredbull]

same my clubsnus order should be hitting also.
got a roll of ettan and a roll or skruf es los.
Got my get snus and enjoying an ettan los to kick off my morning...got bee and alpina in the nose..

Sly the jaxons toffee is kick ....

so my normal maintain bag of varity is under lock and key at the store since I have to go to an event for 5 hours downtown...plastic lunch bag is not dignified but have in my coat pockets jaxon toffee, and c&c. wos gc, hdt20, alpina, president,gletcherprise and a coulpe of others.

for snus is or r&c, ettan los and probe. those are my 4 hour sales meeting supplies. I loathe these vendor thing it is 4 hours of sitting around with thumb in rectum not paying attention since I am not in sales and in support.
I just wish they would let me tear the new stuff apart instead of wasting 100 bucks sitting there.

 

[asidrave]

. Just checked e-mail and the Holy Tracking Numbers.

Appears the snus orders from both clubsnus and getsnus should be arriving today. Once again the neighborhood will see the Happy Dance as interpreted by OTD and shake their heads in..... hmmmmm, I wonder what they really think at these times?

Successful end of the week to all. Off to the work house with

Coffee
General OP
de Kralingse Macuba

can you post thevideo of you happy dance on youtube

Odens Kanel portion
Coffee w/hazelnut

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Mornin' all . Training and meetings score high marks on my loathe list too. I think the potty training saga killed it for me, and as for meetings, well I think most go smoother without me .

Snus orders coming in on a Friday is a good thing, best way to end the work week for sure. I finally got confirmation from clubsnus so scratching the CA trip.

Pullin' the starter cord with:

Thunder Frosted
Folgers ES

 

[Dredbull]

swtiching up vaping some caramel machito and sniffing jaxons toffee.

 

[olderthandirt]

Happy dance videos, hehe.... erm, no

D'ruther leave you to your imagination, skinny ol' bald guy in rainbow suspenders do a jig with snus parcels in hand all the while emitting a kinda of chortle snicker cackle....

That's been one of the nice things since I entered the "temporary" "contract" employee work force. I've not endured, (or been woken up during) a meeting for over 4 years now. Silver linings.

All sorts of project fails yesterday meant my usual solitary lab was continually invaded by well meaning but clueless engineers yesterday. Here's hoping I can keep em' satisfied with e-mail reports and they in turn stay the hell away!

With that it's time to head em' up and move em' out with
General OP
de Kralingse Chococreme and

MORE COFFEE!

 

[hittman]

We don't have many meetings here luckily but the one I had a week or so ago went alot better with a t-bomb. Well my 8:00 weld test guy didn't show up so I'm off to get started on another project. As soon as ups hits with my parts, I'll be off on a service call. Couldn't pick a better day. Nice and sunny and it's friday.

oden cinnamon
coffee

 

[Kismayaz]

Morning all. I'm just about to head off to work for the day. Woman went in early so no car. Heading to the bus stop shortly. Out of coffee, and My schnoz has been locked up all morning so no snuffers. I'm going to try my first T-Bomb today! Wish me luck

Craving, but cannot have:
Coffee
Honey Bee

Supplementing with:
1st ever T-Bomb on the way to work

 

[Dredbull]

riding a clean warm bus that does not reek like .... witha side of feet.
toboca los in my face spanish gem in my nose.

es seattles best with a double shot in my cup.

hittman this ba vendor fair thats hands on if I see any good kidlet phones Ill shoot ya a pm.

got 2 out of 4 lopes stuffed. need to pick up stamps.

 

[Skrymr]

OTD, I got my northerner order yesterday, and Getsnus tracking says my order from them should be here today. All my snus and my prismaster will be here today, but the General mints I ordered for Sherry are on back order. Hopefully they ship that soon, All Sherry has left are the mini mints, and they just don't do it for her very well unless she doubles them up.

 

[hittman]

Morning all. I'm just about to head off to work for the day. Woman went in early so no car. Heading to the bus stop shortly. Out of coffee, and My schnoz has been locked up all morning so no snuffers. I'm going to try my first T-Bomb today! Wish me luck

Craving, but cannot have:
Coffee
Honey Bee

Supplementing with:
1st ever T-Bomb on the way to work

Kis, hope the t-bomb goes well. The first one might be a little rough but don't give up on them. It went better for me the second time around.

 

[hittman]

riding a clean warm bus that does not reek like .... witha side of feet.
toboca los in my face spanish gem in my nose.

es seattles best with a double shot in my cup.

hittman this ba vendor fair thats hands on if I see any good kidlet phones Ill shoot ya a pm.

got 2 out of 4 lopes stuffed. need to pick up stamps.

DB, thanks for keeping an eye out on the phone thing. Her B-day is quickly approaching and I imagine that we will be phone shopping within the next week or so.

 

[olderthandirt]

... I'm going to try my first T-Bomb today! Wish me luck

Craving, but cannot have:
Coffee
Honey Bee

Supplementing with:
1st ever T-Bomb on the way to work

Kis, I do hope you had something to eat. T-bomb on empty stomach spell ooooph!

OTD, I got my northerner order yesterday, and Getsnus tracking says my order from them should be here today. All my snus and my prismaster will be here today, but the General mints I ordered for Sherry are on back order. Hopefully they ship that soon, All Sherry has left are the mini mints, and they just don't do it for her very well unless she doubles them up.

And the Happy Dances have begun!!

Yo dredbull, sounds as though your off to a pleasant start for the day. Your selection of coffee and tobacco products augmented by a clean bus (in PDX?) all sounds good!

Back to

General Mint
SG Scotch

 

[Dredbull]

hey hits check the samsung seek nothing really put out but it hits around may. pretty little bugger.

lemme see what my chances are with a raffle might be able to save you some scratch.

 

[Brewster 59]

After a bit of digging at snuffhouse, I found a post from Dave(Mr. Snuff) on page 9 of the 'Latest update on PACT' thread. Dave wrote:



Looks like both Mr. Snuff and NicotineRush will remain in business! Very pleased!!!

Celebrating with a big ol' heap of BullSnuff #2.5!

So you guys that are smarter than me explain this to me. Are vendors that are overseas exempt to these new laws? How exactely does going overseas end up being advantagous to beating PACT?