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Need help from former MFS (MyFreedomSmokes) customers
Has any found a supplier or company that has tobacco e-juice like or very similar to MFS Turbosmog, Tall Paul, or Red Luck?
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When Should We Start Stockpiling Nicotine?
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5 lbs is ~2270 grams. Let's assume this tobacco is a strong Burley and contains 4% nicotine, then it would be ~90 grams of nic. How efficient is your extraction process? Even if your process is 100% efficient, you'd end up with a bit less than 1 liter of 100 mg base. But chances are your process isn't that efficient, meaning it's definitely cheaper to stockpile commercial nic base.
A member asked me to weigh in with CASAA's view on this, but truthfully, we don't have a position at this point because there are still too many unknowns.
Personally, I'm not stocking up, at least not yet. I'm more concerned about trying to effect change than I am about preparing for the worst case scenario.
Personally, I'm not stocking up, at least not yet. I'm more concerned about trying to effect change than I am about preparing for the worst case scenario.
For 105.00 you can buy 3 liters of 100mg nic Vaper Teks normal nic not their ultra smooth stuff just the normal nic. Those three liters put in the freezer for the future is what one carton of smokes would cost. No brainer !
The VT nic that is on sale 35.00 a liter is normal nic like everyone sells , example-RST etc. It is good nic. Then there is the other stuff they sell for 125.00 a liter that has no odor and no TH , it is very good.
I think that JustJulie is correct. Stockpile if you feel that is warranted. Because the government is still trying to find their butts with both hands, I'm going to go along with business as usual. I don't foresee anything directly on the horizon. Like I said, they still have to find their ..... And its a real big ....
I think that JustJulie is correct. Stockpile if you feel that is warranted. Because the government is still trying to find their butts with both hands, I'm going to go along with business as usual. I don't foresee anything directly on the horizon. Like I said, they still have to find their ..... And its a real big ....
And of course the gov't, like so MANY people, can't find their .... even with both hands, a map, and a flashlight.
But I'm slowly stockpiling anyway -- better to have and not need... etc. And I'm starting to learn this DIY thing, both for "just in case," and because it's possible I can create something I like even better than the store-bought stuff I've been vaping so far. In fact, the more I practice and learn, I'd say that's entirely likely -- I haven't found a "store bought" food that I can't make better...
And once I can do that, that will sure free up the budget... for more mods... Andria
Trouble is that once they do find it, there's a good chance there will be panic buying. If you want to see the effect of that, just look at what happened to ammunition prices in 2012.
He who panics first, panics best!
I was in a Wal-Mart a couple of years ago and this guy was Buying about 3 Dozen Boxes of .45 ACP. Ball, FMJ, Hollow Points, the works. I asked if you was going shooting with some friends? Or was that all for him?
He told me that he Didn't Even Own a 45. But he thought that maybe he should buy all this Ammo incase down the road he Got One.
LOL
if what you say is true how come so many people or their insurance companies are
paying out their nose for medical expenses?
regards
ike
The "kills one person" criteria is too naive (I realize it was thought experiment of sorts) and we simply wouldn't use any medicine if that were a standard.
Ibuprofen can cause SJS too. Thousands die from Aspirin each year; Tylenol enjoyed massive popularity starting in the 80's due to Reye's disease caused by Aspirin, and now Tylenol is being increasingly implicated in liver damage and possible asthma. Every effective substance has some chance of causing harm. Simply being effective at anything within the body, like a knife, is a double-edged sword, always. I.e. eating sugar molecules in the form of fructose, sucrose, etc, are really effective at delivering energy to the brain, but in the meantime they are shredding up your circulatory system like daggers and causing other problems.
I am also bipolar and also the sort of patient who thoroughly researches the meds and has a better understanding of their mechanisms and metabolism than my doc. I weighed neuromalignant syndrome with SJS and chose the SJS risk. I also found most anti-psychotic drugs to be more anti-manic and suppressing of my own mental acuity vs. lamictal, but it certainly was a tough decision.
I was unhappy to learn about the variance in generic drugs as my mom is a pharmacist and often goes on and on about that. Wellbutrin is the quintessential example that I remember Googling at one point when it was causing intense anxiety and panic attacks. I was miserable when I tried it and never bothered to find out if I had the "right" manufacturer.
The FDA didn't set out to be evil, of course. It was built with good intentions, it has saved countless lives that we don't give it credit for because we have an important pet cause, but the reality is that all government corruption stems from money, it stems from the private sector. It stems from pharmaceutical and tobacco companies having a profound influence on the FDA, not from the FDA being an evil system. The reality is that the conservative anti-government world view is largely supported by allowing the government to be corruptible. Campaign contributions, revolving-door appointments between being the CEO of an Rx company and then the FDA leader, or Goldman-Sachs into the Treasury...
Ultimately the same greed that makes it easier for vendors to look the other way and avoid quality control at a higher level is what drives this corruption of government institutions. The FDA is only as good as we make it.
Ibuprofen can cause SJS too. Thousands die from Aspirin each year; Tylenol enjoyed massive popularity starting in the 80's due to Reye's disease caused by Aspirin, and now Tylenol is being increasingly implicated in liver damage and possible asthma. Every effective substance has some chance of causing harm. Simply being effective at anything within the body, like a knife, is a double-edged sword, always. I.e. eating sugar molecules in the form of fructose, sucrose, etc, are really effective at delivering energy to the brain, but in the meantime they are shredding up your circulatory system like daggers and causing other problems.
I am also bipolar and also the sort of patient who thoroughly researches the meds and has a better understanding of their mechanisms and metabolism than my doc. I weighed neuromalignant syndrome with SJS and chose the SJS risk. I also found most anti-psychotic drugs to be more anti-manic and suppressing of my own mental acuity vs. lamictal, but it certainly was a tough decision.
I was unhappy to learn about the variance in generic drugs as my mom is a pharmacist and often goes on and on about that. Wellbutrin is the quintessential example that I remember Googling at one point when it was causing intense anxiety and panic attacks. I was miserable when I tried it and never bothered to find out if I had the "right" manufacturer.
The FDA didn't set out to be evil, of course. It was built with good intentions, it has saved countless lives that we don't give it credit for because we have an important pet cause, but the reality is that all government corruption stems from money, it stems from the private sector. It stems from pharmaceutical and tobacco companies having a profound influence on the FDA, not from the FDA being an evil system. The reality is that the conservative anti-government world view is largely supported by allowing the government to be corruptible. Campaign contributions, revolving-door appointments between being the CEO of an Rx company and then the FDA leader, or Goldman-Sachs into the Treasury...
Ultimately the same greed that makes it easier for vendors to look the other way and avoid quality control at a higher level is what drives this corruption of government institutions. The FDA is only as good as we make it.
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