When will they get it right ?

[Geoff Dreamwalker]

It seems so many people eventually get problems with mods ! These are'nt cheap and with today's technology working fine on mobile phones, computers and TV's what's going on ? My Vamo 5 is 6months old and now playing around. Its tempremental about starting up. I have an Itaste MVP 3 pro. That's now having charging problems. QUESTION :- How long have you had your mod working perfectly before a problem arose ?

 

[iamthevoice]

It may be a question of a number of factors, in my opinion. How many button activations on any given day for a mod? I mean, 5 clicks on and off, a couple hundred clicks a day of usage, that's 5000-6000 clicks a month easily for the average mod. Combine that with the fact that liquid leaks out, dust from pockets/purses mixes in to make nice hunky messes. It doesn't help that the viscosity of eliquid helps it sneak into the tiniest cracks and crevices. Then tack on heat variations of several hundred degrees, physical stresses (those long attys with only a tiny, hollow 510 thread acting as a lever against the mod's 510 connector), plain old mechanical wear and tear (those attys get swapped out, right?), and high voltages and power going through surface mount electronics and factor in that fantastic Made in China QC and I'm actually surprised they last as long as they do!

But I get your point... Always seems like they should still be better made!

And most of mine are still working fine after more than a year of continuous use. Except for a first gen iStick 20 that I opened and quickly shorted when the small metal button "washer" fell across the battery wires! Small puff of smoke and goodbye iStick! But that was all me (and some bad design choices, in my opinion!)

 

[Geoff Dreamwalker]

Thanks mate . And I thought vaping was the cheap way forward? LOL

 

[Bunnykiller]

I have a SVD and its still working like a champ... its 2 yrs old...

 

[tj99959]

My first Provari is 4 years old, and still looks & works like new.
My Mako (mechanical) is also 4 years old. It even fell out of my duck blind and spent a week at the bottom of Ogden Bay. (my dog found it for me) It also still looks & works like new.
My Silver Bullet is also 4 years old, but it's been used for a hammer so it doesn't look like new anymore, but it still works like new.

Bottom line; there have been quality products out there that do last for a long time, but it's up to you to do your research.

 

[Vapntime]

I have a SVD and its still working like a champ... its 2 yrs old...

Same, but the first one i bought didn't work properly

 

[brutalness]

never did get an svd

 

[Rickb119]

I have 2 Vamo V3's, 4 MVP's and 2 Provari and have never had problems with any of them. The Vamo's are almost 2 years old. The MVP's and one of the Provari's are well over a year old. Battery life on the MVP's is starting to fade but that's to be expected.

Innokin has recently released a new MVP style mod that looks interesting. DISRUPTER&INNOKINCELL VAPING POWER SYSTEM Might be worth checking out.

 

[The Ocelot]

My oldest Provari is is 2.5 years old (I have more, including a P3). Somewhere between then and now I have also collected Reos/Woodvilles; Phidias; a Bod Mecha, a Gus Kiss Q Edition and a Poldiac (all mechs). I also had a Vamo V2 (or V3, I don't remember) that's I PIF'd. No problems with any of them.

 

[BlueSnake]

^^^^^^This^^^^^^

Same here numerous mods over 3 years and no problems. These are electronic devices and if abused they WILL fail. It's also a matter of maintenance. All mods need maintenance to function properly, especially log term.

 

[93gc40]

1 year so far, no non OPERATOR caused issues. But then the only electronics in my rig is a Kick Chip.

 

[Thrasher]

It's mainly the consumers fault. A few years back and the number one argument was always about quality, and very many people refused to buy anything without a proven track record.
Now a days on the other hand a mod can have all kinds of issues, catching fire, battery problems, 510 wearing out and stripping, crappy buttons etc and people will still recommend that mod and tell you its worth it anyways because the one they own is fine.

These companies are trying to 1 up each other and pump out new models as fast as they can theres no real time for QC anymore. And the companies producing top of the line gear arent cheap or super popular as they dont usually have the feature of the week or people refuse to pay that much.


Dicodes- 40 w temp control. $200+ has a 2 year warranty.

New vapor flask- $269+ yet only 6 month warranty?

I have a 3+ year old provari. Board was upgraded for almost nothing, and today the 510 threads are still like butter. Meanwhile I see people on here saying" its a great mod but the 510 needs replacing already" or " this sticks or the button doesnt always fire" etc.

As long as everyone is willing to accept the lack of quality and lack of or limited warranty and repair options, why would they care? If it breaks most people go oh well ill just get another made just as cheap from company b now.

 

[WillyZee]

I have been dropping Provaris as often as I would drop Bic lighters when I smoked

some of my Provaris are 3-4 years old and I've never had one not work

I kind of wonder the same as the OP ... why are not all PVs as consistent and durable as the Provari or the Reo?

 

[Baditude]

My first Provari is 4 years old, and still looks & works like new.
My Silver Bullet is also 4 years old, but it's been used for a hammer so it doesn't look like new anymore, but it still works like new.

Bottom line; there have been quality products out there that do last for a long time, but it's up to you to do your research.

This. I have Provari's and Silver Bullets which are over 3 years old and still used to this day. And they have never been babied.

I have some less expensive mods originally made in China which didn't last six weeks. A select few of mod manufacturers DO GET IT RIGHT (AltSmoke and Provape). But this often means you have to pay more innitally for product quality and customer support. So, bottom line is how do you want to spend your money?

I'm not ragging on China manufacturers, because they are making inexpensive gear for our so-called "disposable society", and most people want to purchase cheap products. However, their "We make cheap, you buy cheap. It break, you buy another" philosophy doesn't meet up to my personal standards. Most China manufacturers do not do repair work. They only manufacture products, not repair them.

Do your research, buy from manufacturers who offer a "real warranty" and will support their product for life. Research who has a proven track record over time.

Why Provari?

Inexpensive Mech Mod and RBA Setup

 

[93gc40]

Cars have been mass produced for over 100 years.... They still can't get those right, all the time. So my guess it will be at least 100 years for the Vape industry to get it right.

 

[dbrandt01]

People keep wanting more and more stuff. High wattage this, temp control that, tri-coil tanks. People keep demanding more and more so companies keep rushing stuff out. People want it, people will buy it. I've had my iStick for 6 months no problem. My Reo for 8 months and it's been dropped and thrown around more times than I could count and it still works just as flawless as day 1. I still have my iTaste vv/vw v3 for a little over a year ago and it still works and holds a charge.

 

[skoony]

its all about the target market. when every one thinks any company is evil for even trying
to make a profit and demand low cost products preferably with a discount but want it to look and act cool
you wind up with crap.
i know most of the people here get it but,there is a very vocal sub-group of vapers that have
for lack of a better term a Groupon mentality. if they can't get it for a third of the cost your
company becomes the scourge of the 'community' bereft of any compassion for the plight of
the common man and a pox on the world. in other words they have a very anti-capitalist
philosophy.
the bottom line is you get what you pay for. you can't get Mercedes quality at KIA prices.

regards
mike

 

[93gc40]

a consumer shopping for the lowest price is NOT anti-Capitalist.. It is what drives the Capitalist to do what they do.
The goal of the TRUE capitalist is to sell as much of THEIR product to as many people as possible, while making as much money from it as possible. Profits are the results of PURCHASES, NOT manufacturing. Customers create profits NOT, the the SELLER/Maker.

 

[skoony]

a consumer shopping for the lowest price is NOT anti-Capitalist.. It is what drives the Capitalist to do what they do.
The goal of the TRUE capitalist is to sell as much of THEIR product to as many people as possible, while making as much money from it as possible. Profits are the results of PURCHASES, NOT manufacturing. Customers create profits NOT, the the SELLER/Maker.

there is a difference between shopping for the lowest price and
demanding top shelf quality for bargain basement prices.
if you want a Mercedes you buy the Mercedes. if all you can afford
is a KIA, guess what? your not getting a Mercedes.

regards
mike

 

[NOVA jon]

there is a difference between shopping for the lowest price and
demanding top shelf quality for bargain basement prices.
if you want a Mercedes you buy the Mercedes. if all you can afford
is a KIA, guess what? your not getting a Mercedes.


regards
mike

Woah, I own a Kia!! You simply cannot beat 10yr/100,000 mi warranty!!

MB does not offer that........