Where and where not to vape

[440BB]

I think of rules as something that each of us view in our own way. Some simply follow them, some work around them when they see fit and some see them as restrictions they can't accept.

I tend to look at rules and the reasons behind them and end up most often filtering out some silly ones and honoring the ones that affect those around me. Using one's turn signal before changing lanes is a rule of law that I most often am bothered by when people ignore them, as they put others at risk. Talking loudly during movies is also breaking a rule and annoys me as it interrupts my enjoyment of a film.

Minding one's own business and using common sense seems simple to me. How and where somebody vapes generally doesn't matter to me unless they are interfering with my view or immediate atmosphere. I vape in a way that doesn't impact those around me. I think it's called the Golden Rule.

 

[Falco78]

I think of rules as something that each of us view in our own way. Some simply follow them, some work around them when they see fit and some see them as restrictions they can't accept.

I tend to look at rules and the reasons behind them and end up most often filtering out some silly ones and honoring the ones that affect those around me. Using one's turn signal before changing lanes is a rule of law that I most often am bothered by when people ignore them, as they put others at risk. Talking loudly during movies is also breaking a rule and annoys me as it interrupts my enjoyment of a film.

Minding one's own business and using common sense seems simple to me. How and where somebody vapes generally doesn't matter to me unless they are interfering with my view or immediate atmosphere. I vape in a way that doesn't impact those around me. I think it's called the Golden Rule.

That's the important thing to do it in a manner that doesn't impact others

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[somdcomputerguy]

That's the important thing to do it in a manner that doesn't impact others

I agree with that 100%.

 

[somdcomputerguy]

Do you vape in restaurants so your clouds that just came out of your lungs can waft down onto the tables of people eating near you?

No. Even when I smoked, I didn't smoke in restaurants. I didn't even like the 'smoking section' of those places.

 

[somdcomputerguy]

The one thing not addressed in the OP post is above. There is a bench with 2 ashtrays several feet from the entrance. I think it is reasonably fair to say that a location with ashtrays is a designated smoking area, and if one is allowed to smoke there, vaping should be acceptable. The "25 feet" thing should not be an issue if the designated site by them is a bit closer. I would certainly not vape or smoke next to the door or inside.

I don't find it reasonable to locate a smoking area less than 10 feet from an entrance that a sign that says No Smoking within 25 feet of said door. BTW, that sign is plainly visible and 3 or 4 feet from the 'designated and allowable' smoking area. I choose to go up the sidewalk to another bench (that has no ashtrays around, but a lot of cig butts on the ground) that's got to be close to 50 feet away.

 

[Falco78]

This is a critical time for this industry with regulations that are being proposed to not put the industry in a negative light...

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[somdcomputerguy]

The "25 feet" thing should not be an issue

Well it's an issue to me, and that is the only point I will try to make if anyone with any kind of authority tries to make an issue with me.

For some reason I have the feeling to say "G'Bless You" two or three times now.. (issue, issue, issue..)

 

[Train2]

Not sure where you live, but here, that 25 feet, it's a LAW.
Not a building policy, but state law. And the benches are "out of compliance" and should be moved too.
Someone complains, that'll be the result - the benches will get moved. Or removed...

Just sayin'

I think there are probably dozens of threads and hundreds of posts about this subject already, and I was going to resurrect the newest one I could find, but I couldn't find one. I only looked thru the first 5 or 6 pages in this particular forum though. Anyway; at a medical office building that one of my docs practices in there is a sign out front that says 'No Smoking'. In back there is a sign that says 'No Smoking or Use of E-cigarettes', so I vape in front, past the sign, and someone (either an employee or another patient) usually says, "You can't do that here..". I then point out the difference between the signs, and that I'm on the 'OK' side of the sign. The thing funniest to me is the fine print on the first sign, the 'within 25 ft. of entrance' clause, and the fact that the bench with an ashtray on either side is less than 10 ft. from the front door.. I almost can't wait for a security guard or a cop to hassle me about it..

The one thing not addressed in the OP post is above. There is a bench with 2 ashtrays several feet from the entrance. I think it is reasonably fair to say that a location with ashtrays is a designated smoking area, and if one is allowed to smoke there, vaping should be acceptable. The "25 feet" thing should not be an issue if the designated site by them is a bit closer. I would certainly not vape or smoke next to the door or inside.

 

[Eskie]

Not sure where you live, but here, that 25 feet, it's a LAW.
Not a building policy, but state law. And the benches are "out of compliance" and should be moved too.
Someone complains, that'll be the result - the benches will get moved. Or removed...

Just sayin'

If it's state law, the bench and/or ashtrays should be relocated. I'm not saying break the law, I'm saying use a designated area. If the area is improperly designated as the presence of ashtrays would suggest, the building management should be responsible, not the individual. To treat it otherwise would sound like a small town speed trap to catch and find smokers and vapers. Don't put an ashtray next to a no smoking sign and expect it will not be used.

 

[thetrucker]

And this is why we can't have nice things.

LOL..................................................aint dat da truth.......................

 

[somdcomputerguy]

To each their own guess, I don't care what you say, it kind of hurts the real purpose of vaping imo

My opinion and yours are the same. I vape for nicotine mostly, although the overall 'toke experience' (body and temperature, in suit terms..) come into play also somewhat. I am certainly not into the 'clouds and tricks' thing. In fact, I can't stand the reference to 'clouds', especially, although not related to this topic at all, when it's used to mean the internet.

 

[englishmick]

I don't find it reasonable to locate a smoking area less than 10 feet from an entrance that a sign that says No Smoking within 25 feet of said door. BTW, that sign is plainly visible and 3 or 4 feet from the 'designated and allowable' smoking area. I choose to go up the sidewalk to another bench (that has no ashtrays around, but a lot of cig butts on the ground) that's got to be close to 50 feet away.

I pretty much agree with this, I follow the self imposed rule of not vaping where I wouldn't smoke. The only time I ignore those rules is at places like medical facilities or airports where they have signs saying "we are a smoke free facility, this includes the parking lot". Once I'm 20 feet or so from the door, assuming I'm not in a crowd, I'm on it. Walking to my car or sitting in it or just strolling around. Did that last week when I took my wife in for cataract surgery. And last month in some airport parking lots.

There's another one that really bugs me. In America wherever there are seats placed facing each other people will sit with their feet on the seat opposite. And not just a handful of antisocial jerks. So whenever you use one of those seats you can assume you're sitting on something someone else walked on. Actually there's a lot of stuff that annoys me, don't even get me started on people who leave their carts out on the lot at Lowes on windy days.

Everyone is different. We all have to draw our own line on this stuff, and be cool about other people's chosen lines.

 

[Rule62]

While not being officially what I would call a 'cloud chaser', I spent the majority of my many years of smoking as a pipe and cigar smoker. For years, I rarely, if ever, smoked cigarettes. I like a big, full, thick, flavorful vape, that replicates the pipes and cigars.
I've been aware for years of how annoying my smoking could be to other people.
I only vape one way. I don't 'tootle puff' nor do I 'stealth vape'. I've never seen the point in it. I can sit through a movie, have a meal at a restaurant, or walk around in a store, without the need to vape. So, I have to adhere to the self imposed rule of not vaping where it might annoy others, or wherever smoking isn't allowed.

 

[jamesbeat]

I prefer my vaping to be invisible except standing with smokders. If the device is small and there is no visible vapor I can take a puff just about any where. If your vape requires clouds places you can vape are limited.

Interesting. Can I ask how you accomplish this?
I tootle puff at low wattage, but I still make enough of a cloud that it's difficult to conceal sometimes.

Are you using 100% PG liquid or something?

 

[mcol]

I prefer my vaping to be invisible except standing with smokders. If the device is small and there is no visible vapor I can take a puff just about any where. If your vape requires clouds places you can vape are limited.

This.
I rarely do it anymore, but have vaped everywhere - sitting at a table in a restaurant,
airports, motel rooms....everywhere. And no one knows including the person standing
or seated next to me. It's all in the manner of how it's done. Stealthing is easy. Again,
I rarely do this anymore but the no vaping signs don't phase me in the least.

 

[sofarsogood]

This.
I rarely do it anymore, but have vaped everywhere - sitting at a table in a restaurant,
airports, motel rooms....everywhere. And no one knows including the person standing
or seated next to me. It's all in the manner of how it's done. Stealthing is easy. Again,
I rarely do this anymore but the no vaping signs don't phase me in the least.

Michigan doesn't have laws restricting vaping. I tried a few discrete puffs in Walmart. It's not against the rules there either. But 99% of the time I'm in a hurry to get out of the place, don't bother to vape but it's easy to avoid notice because everybody else is in a hurry too. I don't go to bars, rarely eat out so I don't have those situations. The way it's working out, if the device is small, there's no visible vapor, the people around me are distracted by their own busness and I'm not trying to challenge authority, I get away with an occaisional puff. I make myself easier to ignore than confront.

 

[440BB]

The way it's working out, if the device is small, there's no visible vapor, the people around me are distracted by their own busness and I'm not trying to challenge authority, I get away with an occasional puff. I make myself easier to ignore than confront.

Well said!

I've been ignored or overlooked for over five years, without a single odd look or word. Free range vaping FTW!

 

[mattiem]

The government or the busy-bodies won't have to ban vaping. It seems vapors are doing it to themselves It seems to me like the bullies have won without firing a shot

Like @sofarsogood I don't go places that vaping isn't allowed so a ban isn't going to affect me but it is sad that so many have just thrown up their hands and accepted even ridiculous rules because it MIGHT offend someone. Seems to me that the programming of the general public is almost complete.

 

[Falco78]

The government or the busy-bodies won't have to ban vaping. It seems vapors are doing it to themselves It seems to me like the bullies have won without firing a shot

Like @sofarsogood I don't go places that vaping isn't allowed so a ban isn't going to affect me but it is sad that so many have just thrown up their hands and accepted even ridiculous rules because it MIGHT offend someone. Seems to me that the programming of the general public is almost complete.

It's more an option to keep the vaping industry from looking negative by watching what we do. This is really such a critical time for us, with the regulations being proposed and society generally coming to its conclusions on how we are viewed. It is not about surrendering to the will of others it's more for us to keep our future abilities open.

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[DC2]

It's more an option to keep the vaping industry from looking negative by watching what we do. This is really such a critical time for us, with the regulations being proposed and society generally coming to its conclusions on how we are viewed. It is not about surrendering to the will of others it's more for us to keep our future abilities open.

Ah yes, the old "don't vape where you can't smoke, so they won't make a rule that says we can't vape where we can't smoke" argument. That one is a classic, and it never gets old.