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Where do you guys get your Nicotine Base?

Discussion in 'DIY E-Liquid' started by Bucky Goldstein, Jan 29, 2019.

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  1. bombastinator

    bombastinator Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    That’s not science though, that’s just more anecdotal info. Admittedly well informed anecdotal info.
     
  2. Katya

    Katya ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2010
    SoCal
    Right, but there's science and knowledge involved. Kurt, for instance, is a professor of chemistry.
     
  3. John Campbell

    John Campbell Full Member

    Jan 15, 2019
  4. Vapntime

    Vapntime Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 22, 2013
    Brisbane, Australia
    The three best on paper are CNT, NicSelect and Chemnovatic. All better than USP and EU standard requirements. Who sells them, who you buy them off and how you get them are the variables. There is plenty of info out there about the manufacturers processes.
     
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  5. Brewdawg1181

    Brewdawg1181 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 30, 2017
    Metro ATL
    Nic River has Chemnovatic from Poland, PurNic from India, PurNic Salt- US, and Glass Nic from China.
    My guess is the US made salt liquid has freebase from another country combined with acids in the US.
    If I'm not mistaken, before they revamped their nic lineup, they had one from Switzerland as well.

    Yeah, hard to figure out how this one is better than 100% pure?
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  6. Katya

    Katya ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2010
    SoCal
    ;) 100.5% pure must be better than 100% pure, no? :lol:
     
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  7. ScottP

    ScottP Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Houston, TX
    I have used both Nude (from nudenicotine) and PurNic (from nicotine river). When fresh they both seemed pretty close to me. Both colorless and non-peppery. However in my experience the Nude brand seemed to oxidize faster under identical conditions and become more peppery a bit faster. Now, this was not a side by side scientific comparison, but I have stuck with PurNic for the last few years and it has never got as peppery as the Nude did. Just my personal observation.
     
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  8. Bolivar

    Bolivar Super Member ECF Veteran

    I use Vaperstek out of Grove, Oklahoma. I get their EU sourced premium base, 100mg in a pure PG base.

    Good stuff and fast shipping.
     
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  9. Brewdawg1181

    Brewdawg1181 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 30, 2017
    Metro ATL
    According to the Cert of Analysis they have on their site, they sell Chemnovatic, same as Nic River. But different packaging. Just noticed Vaperstek is $79 per ml, vs. $55 at NR.
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  10. Bolivar

    Bolivar Super Member ECF Veteran

    That's a pretty steep price difference. I like them because they are "local" (< 200 miles).
     
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  11. Unforeseen

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  12. Vapntime

    Vapntime Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 22, 2013
    Brisbane, Australia
    This should answer the 100% pure question
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/sigma/n3876?lang=en&region=US&ved=2ahUKEwjiuuWJk5fgAhXFdCsKHRx4DYkQFjANegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1Etz2M7UfHoX1_SznJjTcL

    Yes CNT is processed in Switzerland at Sigma. I'm 99% (;)) sure that PurNic is NicSelect from a different supplier. Nicselect is processed in India. NicSelect is good FDA inspected etc etc.
     
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  13. rob33

    rob33 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 20, 2009
    Concord, NC
    In the last 6 years I've been doing DIY, I've tried all the major names. Here's my favorite for you want clean flavor, water filtered, organic, and US made.

    http://www.carolinaxtract.com/shop-cffd
     
  14. Vapntime

    Vapntime Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 22, 2013
    Brisbane, Australia
    Oh no, you are going to get me started now. Carolina has never provided a GC/MS cert. If you research the way they extract the nicotine co2 etc that method would likely include more of the other alkaloids than just nicotine or would require the use of a solvent to isolate just nicotine. Im happy to be wrong but they won't provide a cert.

    Solvent based nicotine extraction is extremely pure now. If there was a better method I'm sure the big producers would be using it.
     
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  15. rob33

    rob33 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 20, 2009
    Concord, NC
    I think you missed the point of the thread. The guy started the thread to find a reliable supplier with good nicotine and fast shipping. He wasn't looking for a gas chromatography–mass spectrometry test.
     
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  16. Vapntime

    Vapntime Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 22, 2013
    Brisbane, Australia
  17. Brewdawg1181

    Brewdawg1181 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 30, 2017
    Metro ATL
    I don't know...seems the point of a forum is to discuss these things. I think it's worthwhile to at least know that Carolina uses a different process and doesn't provide certs.
    Just my $1/50.
     
  18. Bucky Goldstein

    Bucky Goldstein Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nice, thanks guys!
    And now it's time for me to eat a little humble pie
    Delosi Labs did ship my order promptly
    It was USPS that dropped the ball on the shipping info, their tracking showed Awaiting Package from Shipper up until the moment it was delivered.
    It happens every time with them and I'm guessing it's the post office they are shipping through
    They're in Florida and I'm all the way across the country in California
    Sorry for the bad press Delosi!
     
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  19. raqball

    raqball Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 22, 2010
    Same... Been buying from them for years. fast ship and good prices. Use code ecfforum for 10% off.. I get a liter of 70/30 base in 3mg Nic for like $17.....
     
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  20. puffon

    puffon Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 18, 2014
    The Villages, FL
    Do you know what brand nic Delosi sells?
     
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