Seems a lot emptier here than when I joined the forum 15 years ago. You use to see like 10 new people every week.
What happened? Did I scare them away?
What happened? Did I scare them away?
Where have all the Vapers Gone?
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Still here. Some of us are still licking our wounds. 
I see a "comeback" in the future, or at least I hope so.
I see a "comeback" in the future, or at least I hope so.
I know a ton of vapers who don't expose themselves online during these times of tyrannical political parties vying for power, each having their hands in the cookie jar of Big Business.
Nobody wants Hans Landa knocking on their door.
Extreme? Maybe. Historically common? Certainly.
Nobody wants Hans Landa knocking on their door.
Extreme? Maybe. Historically common? Certainly.
Still here. Some of us are still licking our wounds.
I see a "comeback" in the future, or at least I hope so.
The "comeback" will happen if/when we get socialized medicine. The cost of today's lies won't be acceptable, in the face of medical facts, if the government is "paying" the bills.
If we don't get socialized medicine, it's bu$ine$$ as usual in Washington for the foreseeable future.
I have a problem. I tend to say some really stupid stuff that makes people hate me. Then I create a new account, but I say more stupid stuff. So I make a new account. This has been going on for 15 years. So, I'm just going to stick with this account. Because I can't stop myself from saying stupid stuff.
You are absolutely right, nothing lowers cost more effectively and more quickly than the government takeover of a program or provision of a service. And while we are at it, let's discuss efficiency of delivery, the government has an excellent track record for efficiency. There will be minimal or no waste and certainly there will be no corruption.
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We know what they say about opinions, but here's mine anyway. 
I've never believed this had/has anything to do with cost, or anything "social" at all. I believe that this amazing cottage industry, self-built, self-regulated, and self-policed, simply got so big that the powers decided to remove it from the hands of the (relatively) powerless, and hand it over to the powerful.
What we're witnessing, and what we're caught up in, is the transition of that power. Soon enough, vaping options will look and feel a lot like smoking options. Many "options", but very little true "options.
Can I prove it? Nope. Cannot. Don't care.
Barring any very clear evidence otherwise, I'll likely take that believe to my grave. Sadly, at that.
I've never believed this had/has anything to do with cost, or anything "social" at all. I believe that this amazing cottage industry, self-built, self-regulated, and self-policed, simply got so big that the powers decided to remove it from the hands of the (relatively) powerless, and hand it over to the powerful.
What we're witnessing, and what we're caught up in, is the transition of that power. Soon enough, vaping options will look and feel a lot like smoking options. Many "options", but very little true "options.
Can I prove it? Nope. Cannot. Don't care.
Barring any very clear evidence otherwise, I'll likely take that believe to my grave. Sadly, at that.
I see a lot of supporting members. Does being a "supporting member" or giving money to the platform do anything to bring more traffic to the ECF Forums?
But I also don't want to get shot in my sleep. Will supporting ECF allow people to know where I live?
But I also don't want to get shot in my sleep. Will supporting ECF allow people to know where I live?
It gives me more inbox space.
Yeah. I'm too stupid to figure out how to clear it out. Plus, It saves me from having to see all the pot device ads. I know, I know, there's ad blocker and all that I don't have time to keep on top of.Get out! Ha! Another day lived, another something learned.
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