Where to find WTA?

[spaceballsrules]

Greetings ECF, and welcome to a new work week.

As the title suggests, I am looking to knock out those really intense cravings with some WTA juices. I have been looking around, and I have only found 2 vendors that even have WTA. AromaEJuice and Vapelicious. AromaEJuice is OOS on all of their WTA juices, and so that leaves Vapelicious with the whole e-mail ordering process. Are there any other vendors out there?

Also, is there a WTA additive that I can just add to my current juices, or are there only juices that are pre-flavored?

Thanks for any help.

OK let's talk

 

[Charlz]

oh, Spaceballs. You really haaad to go and start a thread like this.


let.....the......fires..........
BUUUUUURN!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[spaceballsrules]

Uh oh. Did I do something bad?

 

[Sdh]

Those two vendors are the only two I know of. Unless another vendor popped up overnight. It is not difficult to order from Vapelicious. Good luck! This reminds me to order some more WTA.

 

[spaceballsrules]

Thanks Sdh!
I just realized I have another question about WTA. How do the different levels of WTA affect flavor and throat hit?

 

[Pega]

The two that the OP mentioned are also the only ones I know of.

 

[Sdh]

IDK if I can answer that question. I order 36mg/ml e-liquid and extra high WTA. I cannot compare it to a lower mg. I do know the Oakwood flavor is nice. I don't do fluffy flavors. I vape using a Variable voltage box-mod. I vape using a dual coil or vision type carto. I know this does not answer your question but if you email Ethan at vapelicious he will get back to you. IDK about the other vendor since they never have any WTA.

Oh and the throat hit is there for me. However, I use VV.

 

[spaceballsrules]

I am not a big fan of a heavy throat hit, but like you, I am partial to the heavy complex flavors, and have found that the "fluffy," or frou frou flavors, just don't do it for me.
From Ethan's website, I can tell that there are plenty of tweaks that can be done to the juices, so that's good. I think I will just stick to his RY4.
I will get in touch with Ethan ASAP. I am sure he can address any issues I have.
Thanks

 

[MikenGA]

If you email Ethan at Vapelicious, you're likely to receive an email with a phone number, so you can speak directly ear to ear (at least until he gets the shopping cart installed on his website). He's an interesting dude to yak with, and he's a 'juice artist' to boot.

All the liquids I've ordered have been 18mg nic with Xtra High WTA. Now that those cravings are caged, I'm lowering the nic level by diluting down to about 12 mg nic. As a result, the WTA concentration is also dropping, but the cravings are still in check!

Of all the flavors I've tried from Ethan, the Chocolate Banana is the only one I don't particularly like (I don't taste chocolate OR banana), but it mixes well with other juices, so I continue to vape it.

I agree with Sdh that the 'Oakwood' flavor is quite good...but some folks don't like it. I also like his milder 'New Oakwood'. In fact, I like almost EVERYTHING he has put out (I have 15 flavors atm.)

It doesn't matter if this turns into a controversial topic or not...WTA is the reason I was able to make the switch 100% to vaping, and it took TWO YEARS for me to find it. Anybody who doesn't approve can go jump in the lake!

If you're having those deep seated cravings that chain vaping doesn't address, my suggestion is to do yourself a favor, and contact Ethan ASAP. Whether or not you like the current order process doesn't matter...'it is what it is' for the time being, and it's gonna get better!

 

[Charlz]

so the nic and the wta seem to follow the same guidelines. Start high and go down as you see fit. Is the nicotine already factored in as one of the alkaloids or can they be adjusted individually or is that just a silly question?

 

[spaceballsrules]

Hey Mike
Thanks for the input!

I just sent an email to Ethan, so I should hear back soon enough. If Ethan is willing to speak with his customers on the phone, that proves his commitment to what he is doing, shopping cart system or not. It's obvious from what people have said before about Vapelicious and Ethan that he is reputable and wants to provide a great product.

From Ethan's descriptions of the flavors, I don't think I can go wrong with any of the tobacco flavors. Some will just appeal to me more than others.

To anyone thinking about posting something negative about WTAs...DON'T! I am trying to get off the stinky analogs completely, and anything that MIGHT help me do so is certainly better than a cancer stick with 4000+ chemicals in it. /story

 

[MikenGA]

Is the nicotine already factored in as one of the alkaloids or can they be adjusted individually or is that just a silly question?

It might be a great question, or dumb as dirt; I have no clue! Whatever the combination is, it WORKS 4me, and I hope it stays around!

 

[spaceballsrules]

so the nic and the wta seem to follow the same guidelines. Start high and go down as you see fit. Is the nicotine already factored in as one of the alkaloids or can they be adjusted individually or is that just a silly question?

On Ethan's site, the nic content and WTA content can be adjusted independently, so......

Isn't the WTA, when isolated, still 95% nicotine, with the minor WTAs constituting only 5% of the isolate?

 

[Charlz]

yep, I saw that on the ordering thread. You choose size, wta, nic strength, then pg/vg blend.

One would assume that, since you can isolate the nic as in standard juices, the rest can be isolated as well. But we all know the saying about assumptions.

 

[MikenGA]

I just sent an email to Ethan, so I should hear back soon enough.

I know he's posted on his website that he's overloaded since the holidays, and slow to respond, but he's never left me hanging, and he WILL get back to you. He's also trying to streamline his production processes to accommodate more customers...and I'm sure it's necessary!

From Ethan's descriptions of the flavors, I don't think I can go wrong with any of the tobacco flavors. Some will just appeal to me more than others.

Yep. I love his Bourbon Tobacco, Honey Flue Cured, and I especially like one he mixed specifically for me...VA TESTER 403-9J. Maui Blend is also good. (Did I mention Resurrection Tea???)

If you'd like to read'em, I posted comments on some of his flavors in THIS POST.

Good Luck!!

 

[vaptamist]

I like his "electric cigarette", "oakwood" and "pear". The RY4-tobacco (not the classic) is probably my least favorite so far, but still good. I do think he took time off over the holidays to get the website and shopping cart in order. So by the time the ordering opens back up, he may have a shopping cart for us to use.

 

[MikenGA]

I agree about the RY4-tobacco (not the classic). It's good, but not my favorite of the bunch...yet, it's the only RY4 I've ever tried, so I have nothing to compare it to.

I wondered about the "electric cigarette" flavor. Haven't tried it, and the name is not very compelling, but curiosity has me. What's it like??

 

[vaptamist]

It's a very straightforward "cigarette" vape - of course nothing really tastes like a real analog. It's the same tobacco base as the RY4-tobacco and Oakwood, minus the extra flavors. If you like Oakwood and RY4-tobacco, but aren't real big on the additional flavoring you might like it. It's very satisfying and holds up well at high wattages. It's nice to vape when I just want something simple, without any "frills".

 

[spaceballsrules]

I know he's posted on his website that he's overloaded since the holidays, and slow to respond, but he's never left me hanging, and he WILL get back to you. He's also trying to streamline his production processes to accommodate more customers...and I'm sure it's necessary!

I just saw on his website that he is taking some time off and won't be returning until mid-January.

Hopefully, he is using his time off to streamline the website and ordering process, and since he is about to be completely swamped with orders, this should help him keep up.