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Which is the best tasting eliquid? Which are less harsh?

Discussion in 'General E-Liquid Discussion' started by ChemicalMistress, Aug 15, 2018.

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  1. ChemicalMistress

    ChemicalMistress Full Member

    Aug 15, 2018
    I have been trying many different brands and I have found that some are quite harsh to inhale and some are quite lacking in flavor. Im a sub-ohm tank user and my favorite ratio is 80VG/20PG. What are some opinions on the best options?
     
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  2. uthinkofsomething

    uthinkofsomething Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 7, 2015
    Toledo, Ohio
    You are going to get so many different answers to this.
    What nicotine strength do you use, and what are some juices you don't like? Brands and flavors.
    I know for myself some flavors are harsher on the throat than others. Mango is the one that pops to mind for me as having more throat hit, as an example.
    As far as juice not having enough flavor, that can depend a lot on the tank you are using and how you use it.
    One of my favorite juices is Mangosteen Cream from SUA vapors. Good stuff.
     
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  3. QcVaper

    QcVaper Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 17, 2017
    Canada/Quebec
    Flavor wise i have 2 favorite brands:
    Twelve monkeys
    Illusion vapor co

    Both to me have great taste, but monkeys are gunky for cotton and not recommended on anything other than rebuildables.

    Illusion though idk haven't used them in a tank.
     
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  4. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    My only contribution will be some generalized information about terminology and the components of e-liquid.

    We should probably differentiate the difference between "harshness" and "throat hit". Harshness is that unexpected and unpleasant sensation when inhaling your vape. Throat hit is the expected sensation in the back of your throat that one typically gets from smoking.

    Throat hit chiefly comes from the concentration of liquid nicotine in the e-liquid mix. Pg (propylene glycol) also contributes some to throat hit, but less so than nicotine.

    Many things can contribute to make a e-liquid or flavor have harshness. The quality of the flavoring agents, Pg, Vg, and/or nicotine involved in the mix; the recipe mix itself may be "off" if you DIY. Certain flavors may appear to be harsh to different individuals, while the same flavors may taste great to other individuals. That's a very important point to remember: Taste is extremely subjective. What one person likes, the next will not, and vice versa. That's why I don't put much stock into e-liquid reviews, because it is an opinion of one individual and that person's taste buds and taste preferences are probably nothing like mine, nor yours.
    All juice delivery attachments (clearomizer tanks, RDA's, RTA's, cartotanks, etc) will deliver vapor and flavor uniquely and differently. One isn't necessarily better than another, they just do their job a little differently with different results.

    Wicking material and coil selection contributes to flavor. Some people like plain cotton, some people like Rayon...the list goes on and on. Some people like exotic coils like Claptons, while other people like a simple coil.
    Vaping can be described as a journey. You won't know what you prefer or like until you actually experience it.

    I don't generally recommend a commercially-made e-liquid line because I have yet to find one that I like all or even most of the offerings. I may like one or two offerings from a particular manufacturer, but that is no guarantee that someone else will like them as much as me. I've been vaping for nearly seven years, worked in a vape shop where I had the opportunity to taste for free scores of flavors from dozens of manufacturers, and have tasted literally hundreds of flavors over my vaping experience. That's my :2c:
     
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  5. CMD-Ky

    CMD-Ky Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Sep 15, 2013
    KY
    And, to totally confuse the issue, I find all commercial juices unsatisfactory unless highly diluted. I mix my own and came to that, as Baditude said above, by my own experience. That experience took a while and, frankly, cost me more money than would like to admit.
     
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  6. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    PG gives more throat hit, so I guess that could be termed more "harsh" but your PG/VG ratio looks just fine for your tank.

    As to the rest of it (vendors) I am afraid it is kind of all up to you. Sample size packs if/when you can get them would be my only advice.

    Anna
     
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  7. Vapemesilly

    Vapemesilly Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 21, 2017
    Nevada
    To the OP...what you think of as harsh someone else may not think so. The same with flavor. It's all subjective. I was offended recently when someone here talked about dumping juice down the sink, and it was a brand I really like.

    You have to try different brands and flavors to find out what trips your trigger and what makes you gag. It's part of the vape journey. And expect your tastes to change over time.

    Enjoy.
     
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  8. ChemicalMistress

    ChemicalMistress Full Member

    Aug 15, 2018
    I'm at 6mg nicotine and currently using the Freemax Fireluke mesh tank. I welcome everyone's opinion though- never bad to have many different options.
     
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  9. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    Really?

    TC: Any reason against it?
    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    I get what you are saying but I DIY, however my husband and many others seem to like Heather's Heavenly Vapes, there are a few kind of "stand out" vendors, and usually they will have a pretty active thread, often with the vendor title in it and such, it may be worth checking out some of those threads.

    Anna
     
  10. ScottP

    ScottP Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Houston, TX
    What tastes better Coke, Pepsi, or Dr. Pepper? Taste is subjective and everyone is going to prefer something different so even the answers you get here you may not agree with. Personally I DIY my eliquid, so to me, mine is the best.
     
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  11. dmj4

    dmj4 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 1, 2011
    TN
    Hmmm.........this makes me miss my Crisp Cola from Kick Bass Vapor. It was my very first "favorite".
     
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  12. vapdivrr

    vapdivrr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 8, 2012
    sarasota,fl
    Well said.....haven't really seen mentioned about differentiating between the TH and harshness, but I can definitely add one thing to this, one particular harshness comes with a flooded coil or just a coil that's a bit too wet and perhaps insufficient power to run said coil. Alot of my rtas have juice control and if that JC is open too much it produces a very harsh hit, which is quite different to my normal received TH.

    Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
     
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  13. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    Everyone gets something different from the hot bar and the dessert bar at the local buffet and we all have our favorites. But like the buffet, you have to try a lot of choices to find the vape juice that's your favorite all day vape.

    The best tasting juice may be the juice you mix yourself.
     
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  14. Plumes.91

    Plumes.91 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 30, 2012
    United States
    "which are less harsh?"
    "what is the best tasting eliquid?"

    I will reiterate baditude's reply.
    more nicotine = bigger throat thump.
    lower your nic for smoother vapor.
    "throat hit" is that thump on inhale. it's a clean kick to the back of your throat.
    higher propylene glycol in juice can also add to that thump/throat hit.

    higher vegetable glycerin juice will produce a more delicate or spongy inhale. opening up your air holes in your atomizer would also do this. air flow is a huge contributor to that harshness you may be referring to. sometimes an exhale will elicit a cough or pain in the throat: this can usually be fixed by tuning airflow.

    as for the best tasting juice, this is very subjective. personally, I find many popular juices are artificial tasting in a chemically way. for instance, most chocolates taste like fake chocolate flavoring- the kind you'd taste in a dollar store chocolate taffy (that has no chocolate in it) and most strawberries taste like tangy strawberry hard candy to me. I get by using cheaper juices by picking flavors that have a cream component. strawberry custard, for example... chocolate milk.

    many of the TRENDY online juice vendors sell juice I genuinely dislike. typically, i'll find a flavor and stick with it, because the chances I like 2 juices from the same vendor are slim. keep a booklet of liquids you've tried to keep track of the ones you've enjoyed.
     
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  15. charlie1465

    charlie1465 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    I have to agree with everything that has been said so far but i'll go one further.....sounds to me like you might be ready to go diy. You get to choose what you like and finding a recipe that a lot of people also like is usually an ok benchmark for choice. I certainly know that I used to get fed up trying new juices because the number of times you get something yuk was too high for my liking. Try it out it's great and there's only a small learning curve before vaping decent stuff.

    EDIT..Knew new...grammar my boy! :rolleyes:
     
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  16. Coyote628

    Coyote628 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2017
    The absolute best most wonderfully awesome juice in the world is........the one YOU like better than any other. And its a sure bet that someone else will compare it to a soiled diaper.
     
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  17. Dougiestyle

    Dougiestyle Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 5, 2011
    Knoxville, TN USA
    Crab Juice is the best flavor ever.
     
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  18. vapdivrr

    vapdivrr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 8, 2012
    sarasota,fl
    I never tried it, but do remember the crab juice.....man that had to be nasty
    Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
     
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  19. United States

    United States Senior Member

    Aug 17, 2018
    RVA

    Pffft! Everybody knows RC tastes better.

    Now asking which root beer tastes best has started wars and caused ordinarily normal people to became completely unglued over some peoples picks...

    My pop used to say never discuss religion, politics or root beer with strangers.
     
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  20. Susaz

    Susaz Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    I loved getting sample boxes from Zamplebox. It's a little bit pricey but you get to make a profile, and every month they send you eliquid to taste and your requirements. You get to vape a lot of new stuff you never knew you liked.
    Also I ask a lot about what other people vape. You'll soon find your taste!
     
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