Which wire do you recommend from the following list?

[Asmani]

I'm about to buy a Geekvape GBOX Squonker 200W. I'm pretty new to RDAs. I want a wire that is easy to work with, provides a fairly decent experience, and is durable. I should be able to occasionally do cloud-chasing and also vape at below 50w for most of the time. Here is the list of available wires for me:

 

[Fredman1]

What rda will you be using..?

 

[Asmani]

What RDA will you be using..?

Geekvape Radar RDA that comes with that mod.

 

[Izan]

Crawl, walk, run.

 

[Asmani]

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Crawl, walk, run.

Why not any of those fancy Clapton wires with more surface areas?

 

[Kazuko]

I'd go with the Coilology tri-core Ni80 fused clapton, but the wrap gauge is not mentioned in your image, so not sure. Otherwise, the 2*28/36 Ni80 fused clapton should be good as well

 

[the wind]

Why not any of those fancy Clapton wires with more surface areas?

more surface creates different problems.single wire is cheap,it might help to try many to find your sweet spot.

 

[Asmani]

I'd go with the Coilology tri-core Ni80 fused clapton, but the wrap gauge is not mentioned in your image, so not sure. Otherwise, the 2*28/36 Ni80 fused clapton should be good as well

Thanks. This is the picture of the wires. I see that the ohm per ft is so different for the two. If I make two coils with the tri-core Ni80 fused clapton, I'd end up with a resistance in the range of 0.1 to 0.2 ohm (depending on the coils spec), right? Is it too low?

 

[Kazuko]

It all depends on the wattage you will vape it at and the batteries you have. The resistance doesn't change safety on a regulated mod.
I'm not sure the Gbox will fire under .1 ohm though, and depending on the build, you may tingle with that threshold. Also I didn't read your post entirely, I didn't notice the 50W thing. If you want to stick to this wattage or similar, then this wire isn't for you.
The 2*28/36 can fit your needs though, it's a much lighter wire, so less watts required. Less surface area as well, but I'm not sure that's what you're looking for.

One thing I will point out though : your question raises concerns. Asking if a resistance is safe for use on a regulated mod is pointless, which makes me believe you may not have done your homework regarding battery safety.
Look it up, Baditude and Mooch both have detailed articles here on ECF that will teach you all you need to know about battery safety and ohm's law, both for regulated and mech mods, and Mooch tests batteries so you what they can actually handle safely. Don't take those things lightly, and make sure you understand it completely before you decide what you wanna build and the wattage you will push it at.

 

[Zaryk]

When choosing a wire type, it is a balancing act. As mentioned above, your battery plays a big role in what you can use efficiently. No matter what mod you use the batteries ultimately determine what wattage you can reach. Wire with more mass will require more wattage, which will require stronger batteries to be able to supply the proper amount of power.

 

[Asmani]

@Kazuko I don't think safety is a concern of mine. I'm going to buy the following batteries. Should I be worried about vaping at 50w, and occasionally up to 80w, with these batteries?

 

[Zaryk]

@Kazuko I don't think safety is a concern of mine. I'm going to buy the following batteries. Should I be worried about vaping at 50w, and occasionally up to 80w, with these batteries?

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That battery is only 8a according to mooch. So it is not suitable for sub ohm vaping. 50w is too much for that battery by a good bit. There is no 35a 18650 battery out there that I am aware of, and a lot of the battery rewrapers will exaggerate (or straight lie about like with your battery) the true ratings.

Here is mooch's test for that battery.
Bench Test Results: AWT 35A 3500mAh 18650...laughably overrated, only an 8A battery, do not buy

I would highly suggest buying authentic batteries from trusted sources. LG, Samsung, and Sony all make great batteries. I would stay away from rewraped batteries such as those in your picture.

 

[Asmani]

I see, so I really should be worried. Curious to know, what is the safe wattage range with two 8A batteries?

 

[Zaryk]

Depending on how efficient the mod is, maybe 35-40 at best.

I honestly would just get a new set of good batteries. They are not expensive. A set of Samsung 25Rs is less than $10 in most places. And they are good for 60w per cell (120w for a pair). At that price, it isn't worth risking it on bad batteries in my opinion.

 

[Baditude]

Why not any of those fancy Clapton wires with more surface areas?

more surface creates different problems.single wire is cheap,it might help to try many to find your sweet spot.

When choosing a wire type, it is a balancing act. As mentioned above, your battery plays a big role in what you can use efficiently. No matter what mod you use the batteries ultimately determine what wattage you can reach. Wire with more mass will require more wattage, which will require stronger batteries to be able to supply the proper amount of power.

IMHO, surface area is overrated and only part of the overall picture. Fancy coils generally means increased physical mass, which means more voltage power is required to fire the coil. Ramp up time is increased with more coil mass: it will take longer to heat up the coil and longer for it to cool down. You'll also drain your batteries faster.

Look it up, Baditude and Mooch both have detailed articles here on ECF that will teach you all you need to know about battery safety and ohm's law, both for regulated and mech mods

Battery Basics for Mods: The Definative Battery Guide for Vaping
Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations for a Mechanical Mod
Mooch's Battery Blog

@Kazuko I don't think safety is a concern of mine. I'm going to buy the following batteries. Should I be worried about vaping at 50w, and occasionally up to 80w, with these batteries?

What you don't know about batteries and ratings can hurt you.

Bench Test Results: AWT 35A 3500mAh 18650...laughably overrated, only an 8A battery, do not buy

Those Chinese batteries are rewapped rejects with grossly exaggerated amp ratings. The Chinese battery manufacturers use a lower standard in declaring their cells specifications.

Choose your batteries from respectable manufacturers like Lg, Samsung, Sanyo, and Sony (Japanese and Korean origin).

Are You Using a Rewrap (Rebranded or Aftermarket) Battery?
There are no 18650 batteries with a genuine rating over 30A!​

On a regulated mod the coil resistance is essentially irrelevant. What dictates the amp draw on the battery is the wattage you set with the processor chip.

Are you using a single, dual, or triple battery regulated mod? In the interests of keeping things simple:

-If you use a good quality 15 amp CDR battery like the Samsung 30Q or Sony VTC6, then you are good up to 45 watts per battery; 90 watts using two; 135 watts for three batteries.​

-If you use a good quality 20 amp CDR battery like the LG HG2 or Samsung 25R then you are good for 60 watts per battery. If using a 2-battery regulated mod, you're good for 120 watts as you have two batteries. If you are using a 3-battery mod, you're good for 180.

-If you use a single 25 amp CDR battery like the Sony VTC5A, then you are good for 75 watts per battery, 150 watts for two batteries, and 225 watts with three.

-If you use a single 30 amp CDR battery like the LG HB6 you are good up to 90 watts; with a pair of 30 amp CDR batteries you could safely do 180 watts.​

WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD:
(Wattage doubles if using two batteries; triples using three batteries)

Up to 45W:

Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR

Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR

Up to 60W:

LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR

LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR

Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR

Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR

Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR

Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR

AW 18650 3000 mah 20 amp CDR

Up to 75W:

LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR

LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR

Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR

Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR

Up to 90W:

LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR

LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR

LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR

Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR

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[Asmani]

You guys are awesome!

I'm gonna use two batteries with Geekvape GBOX Squonker 200W. I'll probably receive my mod sooner that finding good batteries. I have two unreliable batteries, with each of which I've vaped at 30w for a quite a while in the past. What would be the risk of vaping with these batteries for a few days? They might explode, or just damage the mod?

 

[Asmani]

That SS316L wasn't available. I ordered this one for now:

 

[Zaryk]

You guys are awesome!

I'm gonna use two batteries with Geekvape GBOX Squonker 200W. I'll probably receive my mod sooner that finding good batteries. I have two unreliable batteries, with each of which I've vaped at 30w for a quite a while in the past. What would be the risk of vaping with these battery for a few days? They might explode, or just damage the mod?

If you run them too hard, it can wear the batteries out quickly. Continued use then can get into overheating issues, and possible battery venting. Using them within the 30w range should be fine as long as they don't seem to be heating up, just pop them out and feel them, if they are getting hot they are being over worked. This is not a perfect test, bit it will at least give you something to go off of.

 

[Asmani]

I remember I tried 75w for a few seconds with that battery, which definitely can't provide 75w. My Vaporesso Target Pro didn't give any error or warning, but shouldn't it? Do high-end mods give an error when the battery can't provide the set wattage?

 

[Coyote628]

I'd start with plain kanthal, to learn how to build. I played around with different Clapton and alien wire and settled on plain wire. My favorite build is made with 22ga plain kanthal. I make 7 wraps with 2.5mm inside diameter. The resistance hits around .19 to .21 with a dual coil setup. I fire it between 60 and 70 watts. Works like a dream.