Who we going to trust?

[FRANKSTER]

Hello everyone...I do not mean(ghost busters) I am concerned about what I am putting in my body. I really would like to purchase my e-liquids from an american supplier(just feel I have a better chance of not poisoning myself) that I can trust. I think this is an important issue for anyone who vapes.

Does anyone have any ideas on this subject? I want to enjoy this experience and not kill myself while doing it.

I am only vaping for 6 weeks and I really would love to know.

Thanks

 

[MajorRocker]

The way I see it, I was killing myself with cigs to begin with. Perhaps I'm killing myself now, but at least I have flavor choices to enhance my dying experience.

 

[cavibird2005]

If your worried about it DIY. (Do it yourself)

 

[sbphotog]

Nothing is safe these days...not even the air we breathe. I don't know if vaping is "safe", but I know it's "safer" than smoking because it's a fact the eliquid does not contain the tar, carcinogens, smoke, and all the other crap in analogs that I KNOW will kill me. I personally don't feel that vaping is any more dangerous to my health than breathing our polluted air day after day.

 

[Nicko]

I have been vaping only non-American juices for one year. I'm still alive. To the best of my knowledge, the entire industry is unregulated and there are no quality control standards in place anywhere, except those that individual manufacturers set for themselves. So, unless you make the juice yourself, it's not possible to know exactly what's in it. You should check out the forum suppliers for a good choice of reputable vendors.

Also, I've not heard of anyone being poisoned while vaping. Most of us switched to vaping because we knew that smoking was poisoning us.

 

[Rickajho]

Funny, I would take the other view point on this matter. I'm much more inclined to trust a very large, overseas manufacturer that puts out high volumes of liquids and has the quality control and testing labs to back it up. Versus any old Mom and Pop in the USA making up small batches of product in the kitchen, with the greater likelihood of inconsistency from one batch to the next one.

Probably the more important point in all this is buying your liquids through a vendor you trust. They are your front end to the manufacturers and reputable vendors know what they are buying. Get it directly from a Mom and Pop manufacturer in the USA and, well, you better just "trust" Mom and Pop - simply because they are located in the USA? Sorry, when it comes to "a better chance of not poisoning myself" made in the USA has no guarantee of certainty.

But why you think any manufacturer would have a vested interest killing it's very own customers... I can't help you there. Kinda sours the whole business=make money model if your manufacturing is so bad that that dead thing happens.

 

[Nicnac71]

For me I feel 100% better on a e cig! My health has improved greatly!!!!!!

 

[Nicko]

But why you think any manufacturer would have a vested interest killing it's very own customers... I can't help you there. Kinda sours the whole business=make money model if your manufacturing is so bad that that dead thing happens.

That's a really good point. Perhaps we should make a list of juice manufacturers who actually HAVE killed their customers.

 

[sidetrack]

After about 1 month of vapeing I asked myself this very question and came up one answer. DIY. I trust me more than any supplier. By doing it myself I know exactly what's going into my eliquid.

 

[ChodaBoy]

Funny, I would take the other view point on this matter. I'm much more inclined to trust a very large, overseas manufacturer that puts out high volumes of liquids and has the quality control and testing labs to back it up. Versus any old Mom and Pop in the USA making up small batches of product in the kitchen, with the greater likelihood of inconsistency from one batch to the next one.

Probably the more important point in all this is buying your liquids through a vendor you trust. They are your front end to the manufacturers and reputable vendors know what they are buying. Get it directly from a Mom and Pop manufacturer in the USA and, well, you better just "trust" Mom and Pop - simply because they are located in the USA? Sorry, when it comes to "a better chance of not poisoning myself" made in the USA has no guarantee of certainty.

But why you think any manufacturer would have a vested interest killing it's very own customers... I can't help you there. Kinda sours the whole business=make money model if your manufacturing is so bad that that dead thing happens.

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This would be a great arguement if the tobacco companies hadn't been killing their customers for a century. lmao

 

[WVvet]

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This would be a great arguement if the tobacco companies hadn't been killing their customers for a century. lmao

My exact thought when I read that Chodaboy!
Anyway, I too trust US manufacturers more than China (who poisened there own baby formula in the name of profits!) luckily there are many of them out there. VelvetVapors is my fave!

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

If you have any concerns email the Supplier and ask exactly what the juice contains. I found a Nic Juice Supplier, read the reviews, asked him some questions, ordered the juice (DIY) and am very pleased with his product. A little research goes a long way IMHO. I bought U.S. made.

 

[ChodaBoy]

My exact thought when I read that Chodaboy!
Anyway, I too trust US manufacturers more than China (who poisened there own baby formula in the name of profits!) luckily there are many of them out there. VelvetVapors is my fave!

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I love people who think like me lmao

 

[chevelle]

Frankster, your concerns have been shared by most of us at some point so, this discussion comes up frequently. The base liquids, Propylene Glycol and Vegetable Glycerin are pretty well documented. A quick Google search will show that these are rather inert, benign substances that have been used for decades with no major issues reported. The flavorings are the only real variables in the "mix". Lots of discussions related to this on ECF. Generally, there are a few flavorings and types that should not be used in e-liquid. A quick search should turn up a lot of those threads.

As far as US made vs non-US made liquids...I personally don't have a problem vaping Dekang brand liquids made in China but might be less inclined if made by another vendor. Buying US-made is no absolute guarantee of quality or purity but I tend to prefer buying US-made whenever I can. I've not heard of any specific e-liquid issues other than the taste of one vendor's juices over another regardless of country of origin.

I've made the move to get out of that loop almost entirely as I now make all my own liquids, using ingredients from known sources.
Big fun, a bit messy but very satisfying! lol.

 

[chevelle]

If you have any concerns email the Supplier and ask exactly what the juice contains. I found a Nic Juice Supplier, read the reviews, asked him some questions, ordered the juice (DIY) and am very pleased with his product. A little research goes a long way IMHO.

This is a great suggestion by the way. If anyone has concerns, ask the vendor exactly where all the ingredients come from. If they won't disclose that or simply don't know, then you may decide to shop elsewhere. It is unlikely that they will tell you exactly what flavorings are used other than in general terms such as non-diacetyl, non-pg etc. Commercial vendor's juice recipes tend to be considered trade secrets.

 

[Off Topic]

We trust minimum wage workers, some who can barely spell their own name, to prepare food that we stick in our mouths.

Pardon me for not running around looking for new things to worry myself to death over.

The vendors are all here on this forum. They eat or starve by what we have to say about the product they make. Run a google search on any vendor you know of--there is a link on the first page to this forum. I daresay they are watching what they do very carefully.

I'm not too worried.

 

[wootze]

Just use organic juice from Vaperite or other suppliers who supply this alternative

 

[wv2win]

Hello everyone...I do not mean(ghost busters) I am concerned about what I am putting in my body. I really would like to purchase my e-liquids from an american supplier(just feel I have a better chance of not poisoning myself) that I can trust. I think this is an important issue foe anyone who vapes.

Does anyone have any ideas on this subject? I want to enjoy this experience and not kill myself while doing it.

I am only vaping for 6 weeks and I really would love to know.

Thanks

Humm, you had no problem poisoning yourself with American made cigarettes but some how believe that American made eliquid is safer. And yet, personal vaporizers and the eliquid that goes in them was invented and created in another country. And about 90% of the eliquid produced and consumed comes from China and there have been no reported deaths or illnesses from the millions of vapers who use these products.

Janty (non-American) is the only eliquid manufacturer that I am aware of who is actively working with the FDA on certification of their products. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or not, considering the lies spread by the FDA concerning vaping.

 

[Uncle Willie]

The OP asks a legit question and as most always, the snark dives it ..

There is no absolute guarantee of quality in any e-liquid .. a certain degree of trust must be given .. the Chinese invented this thing and they have the most experience with it .. and a huge number of folks in China use an e-cig .. I'm talking millions and millions of folks .. so, with the Web, logic would hold that if there were major issues, news would get out ..

I believe the USA industry should self regulate / establish standards .. before Uncle Sam does it for them .. however, that would require spending money and time .. which all or most are not willing to do .. likely with many just a quick cash grab on a growth industry .. sad, really .. right now, about anyone can mix up some liquid and peddle it, and it's the liquid that needs standards ..

And yes, I've tested liquid using the kit that was offered on eBay and there are wild swings in what you think you get and what you actually get ..

 

[sliq]

no one can really tell you the risks (if any) of vaping. but what i can tell you, as a complete stranger, is that i'd rather vape than pick up a stick of cigarette.



true story.