Who will deeming effect in the vaping community?

[Opinionated]

My opinion is that there will not be an "emergency break" and all you really need to know is ohms law which you should be familiar with if you vape anyway,
and how to roll with the correct resistance +- a few fractions of an ohm

I do know ohms law and I can wrap a fine coil these days if I do say so myself..

and your very well right and the emergency break may never happen, I certainly don't preach doom and gloom where concerns deeming, but for myself I prefer to be certain.

 

[HazyShades]

I do know ohms law and I can wrap a fine coil these days if I do say so myself..

and your very well right and the emergency break may never happen, I certainly don't preach doom and gloom where concerns deeming, but for myself I prefer to be certain.

Indeed, better safe than sorry..

 

[stols001]

I want no doom and gloom! Life has taught me how likely that is (not very) but I am thinking my attitude about potential doom and gloom makes things easier.... Like, I can agonize about Deeming regs or I can keep emailing my governing bodies (I PROMISE, the letter I sent to the FDA was quite normal, and I didn't "report" any vapers, LOL) and then get on their mailing lists which are actually often both informative/interesting/WTHHHH??? at times and I can stock up on gear, and that's gonna include some mech mods at SOME point, for sure.

That's for when I can get an RTA even up and running nicely and consistently, LOL., and keep my Nautlius coils if there ever comes time I have to rebuild them (I do HOPE not, LOL, though I've been able to investigate their innards quite frequently, the most recent time when my Kabuki clone decided to start eating the atomizers-- they keep getting caught in the chimney and I was harried as I wanted to bring both tanks to the oral surgeon.... my wish was not granted, and I'm a bit annoyed with my clone at the moment and plan to investigate just what it thinks it's allowed to do) and yeah, that's probably rebuildable, the N2 coils. Not fun, but probably doable.....

That keeps my doom and gloomometer from rising, since I'm doing all that I can, and I seem to have found out that regardless of the tragedy involved, it can usually be improved/righted and that's a nice attitude to have.

It took getting older and tired of being anxious so much to get there, but my anxiety level has just consistently dropped over the years.

And, I'm kinda pleased my kiddo looked at my provari and thought it might be a mech mod, since he didn't immediately start telling me I was too.... "Mom-like" to be able to have one, LOL. I suppose that's a good sign. He no longer checks my vape equipment for errors, either. There are benefits to hanging around here, it sort of turns into knowledge by osmosis.....


Anna

 

[Opinionated]

I want no doom and gloom! Life has taught me how likely that is (not very) but I am thinking my attitude about potential doom and gloom makes things easier.... Like, I can agonize about Deeming regs or I can keep emailing my governing bodies (I PROMISE, the letter I sent to the FDA was quite normal, and I didn't "report" any vapers, LOL) and then get on their mailing lists which are actually often both informative/interesting/WTHHHH??? at times and I can stock up on gear, and that's gonna include some mech mods at SOME point, for sure.

That's for when I can get an RTA even up and running nicely and consistently, LOL., and keep my Nautlius coils if there ever comes time I have to rebuild them (I do HOPE not, LOL, though I've been able to investigate their innards quite frequently, the most recent time when my Kabuki clone decided to start eating the atomizers-- they keep getting caught in the chimney and I was harried as I wanted to bring both tanks to the oral surgeon.... my wish was not granted, and I'm a bit annoyed with my clone at the moment and plan to investigate just what it thinks it's allowed to do) and yeah, that's probably rebuildable, the N2 coils. Not fun, but probably doable.....

That keeps my doom and gloomometer from rising, since I'm doing all that I can, and I seem to have found out that regardless of the tragedy involved, it can usually be improved/righted and that's a nice attitude to have.

It took getting older and tired of being anxious so much to get there, but my anxiety level has just consistently dropped over the years.

And, I'm kinda pleased my kiddo looked at my provari and thought it might be a mech mod, since he didn't immediately start telling me I was too.... "Mom-like" to be able to have one, LOL. I suppose that's a good sign. He no longer checks my vape equipment for errors, either. There are benefits to hanging around here, it sort of turns into knowledge by osmosis.....


Anna

Never stress over the what-ifs... life does have a way of working itself out just fine in the end.

It's good your son is worrying less about you! That means you are getting more knowledgeable!

 

[MacTechVpr]

My opinion is that there will not be an "emergency break" and all you really need to know is ohms law which you should be familiar with if you vape anyway,
and how to roll with the correct resistance +- a few fractions of an ohm

Do agree in principle. The more the technocrats see the public is well prepared to pursue alternatives beyond the regulatory schema, the more they are dissuaded. After all, they have to pursue and justify funding if the laws are faithfully executed.

Good luck.

 

[HazyShades]

Do agree in principle. The more the technocrats see the public is well prepared to pursue alternatives beyond the regulatory schema, the more they are dissuaded. After all, they have to pursue and justify funding if the laws are faithfully executed.

Good luck.

From the beginning of this "deeming" garbage I've been saying
that it's all about sin taxes. If the powers that be can find a way to tax heck out of the industry
while satisfying the "prohibitionists" ( doing away with or heavily restricting candy type flavors..? )
all will be well though probably cost more money.

 

[Eskie]

I do know ohms law and I can wrap a fine coil these days if I do say so myself..

and your very well right and the emergency break may never happen, I certainly don't preach doom and gloom where concerns deeming, but for myself I prefer to be certain.

I think the issue with a mech is not only understanding Ohm's law and how to choose a battery or wind a coil. You have to have a pretty good feel on getting a build that vapes the way you want it to. If your build is meh, on regulated mod, you can try and play around with the power/temp and probably end up OK. A little more or less wattage to get what you want.

In a mech you build the coil, you own it. Don't like it, back to step one. So of course safety should always be of #1 importance, but knowing how your build will vape is a close #2.

 

[ScottP]

I think the issue with a mech is not only understanding Ohm's law and how to choose a battery or wind a coil. You have to have a pretty good feel on getting a build that vapes the way you want it to. If your build is meh, on regulated mod, you can try and play around with the power/temp and probably end up OK. A little more or less wattage to get what you want.

In a mech you build the coil, you own it. Don't like it, back to step one. So of course safety should always be of #1 importance, but knowing how your build will vape is a close #2.

Don't forget #3 knowing when to swap batteries so you don't over drain them and cause permanent damage to them.

 

[T0mmy1977]

It's all not too complicated with mechs. Yes, you need to take your time reading/watching tutorials, ask lots of questions, etc.

1. You must not have anything shorting in your atty (Coils touching anything other than the positive/negative posts they are connected to.
2. Make sure your build does not exceed the amp limit of your battery configuration (single 18650/26650, dual 18650 in parallel (Has 75% of both batteries' CDR amp limit combined) or series (Has 100% of only 1 battery's CDR amp limit) configurations. I use this simple power calculator to make the um calculations for me. www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-ohm.htm
3. Be diligent. Don't get too confident and lazy with your handling of mechs.

 

[Rossum]

Don't forget #3 knowing when to swap batteries so you don't over drain them and cause permanent damage to them.

I've been vaping mechs (squonkers) exclusively for a couple of years now, and I just don't see how that can possibly be an issue. On any build that's reasonable (i.e. not way too hot) with a fully charged battery, the vape will get unacceptably anemic before a battery drops low enough to be "over-drained".

 

[T0mmy1977]

I've been vaping mechs (squonkers) exclusively for a couple of years now, and I just don't see how that can possibly be an issue. On any build that's reasonable (i.e. not way too hot) with a fully charged battery, the vape will get unacceptably anemic before a battery drops low enough to be "over-drained".

Absolutely. As the power drops, you can tell it's time to recharge way before the danger zone.

 

[DeAnna2112]

100mg nic is something to be respected, but not feared. You should wear surgical gloves when mixing. I wear one on the hand I use to pipette nic from the big bottle into the mixing bottle. 100mg nic is a 10% solution. 1000mg nic is pure nic and is extremely dangerous. It's been said that opening 1000mg nic and breathing the fumes can cause death. Even getting 1000mg nic on your hand can be deadly. It's absorbed quickly.

If you happen to get 100mg nic on your hand, just turn on the sink tap and wash it off. Breathing the fumes from a bottle isn't recommended, but what escapes from an open bottle while mixing isn't toxic. Make sure you do your DIY near a sink so that you can wash your mixing tools and your hands while mixing. If there's an oven hood close by, turn it on if you worry about breathing fumes from the bottle (I don't). It's also a good idea to find a 4" thick foam block about 8" or 10" square that comes in packaging and cut a hole in the center that tightly fits your nic bottle to prevent tip over spills. Precautions are good whether they are necessary or not.

Nic is analogous to Ammonia in hazard levels. Pure 100% Ammonia can be deadly. Like the Nicotine we use household Ammonia is a 10% solution. You can get it on your hands momentarily without serious effects. You just wash it off and continue. That said, gloves should be worn with either of the two. You also need to wear safety glasses or at least regular eyeglasses just in case. We don't want Nic in our eyes.

thanks dave i am feeling better hearing from so many working with a 100mg.

 

[DPLongo22]

who will deeming effect?

Not me.

 

[ENAUD]

Not me.

+1

 

[DPLongo22]

+1

Not YOU either!

 

[DeAnna2112]

Well, @DeAnna2112 , I've been vaping 50mg unflavored 25p/75v all morning through my Kabuki. Great vape . I haven't done 50 for quite some time, maybe a year? Took a couple of hours of rotating that with more normal nic jiuce. Quite harsh. Maybe I'll pick up some salted nic and see what that is like. Not sure why, just because I can? . If you do this regularly you have quite some nic tolerance.

yeah i told you i believed i had a high nic tolerance. Some days i vape close to 50mg of nic. But that is not something i do all the time or prefer to do all the time, but it gets the job done. It is harsh i will agree and it sucks on the throat, but it works on some days when i am more stressed out then others...i work in the medical field. Been thinking about dipping my feet into building my own coils, just not there yet. Honestly i don't really care to. I am a simple girl when it comes to vaping. I got my provari, my kabuki tanks, and vape around 12watts...good to go with that setup, it's the nic that varies depending on my day. Do you think nic is going to be a problem in the future? some say yes and some say no just more costly from what i gather. Been eyeing a freezer but wow will it be tight in my kitchen. I live in a cabin on the lake, like you i gave up space to look out my back door and have a beautiful lake staring back at me...oh i wish it was the ocean as in your case...so jealous!

 

[Katdarling]

Not YOU either!

I'm certainly not on ye olde fence either. Not me!

 

[ScottP]

Been eyeing a freezer but wow will it be tight in my kitchen. I live in a cabin on the lake...

Have you considered an add-on to the cabin or maybe even a storage shed with room for a larger freezer? A large freezer is also good to store lots of fish and/or deer meat too! You could even make the shed large enough to to double as a workshop for the hubby or even some extra space for yourself for whatever other hobbies/activities you might like to do.

 

[DaveP]

thanks dave i am feeling better hearing from so many working with a 100mg.

I hope I didn't make it sound TOO safe. Lots of things you use can irritate eyes or skin and some produce vapors that you don't want to inhale. 100mg nic has its own little set of things to be careful about. Google it and read about precautions. More precaution is better when you are trying to be safe. The more you know the safer you'll be.

 

[VNeil]

yeah i told you i believed i had a high nic tolerance. Some days i vape close to 50mg of nic. But that is not something i do all the time or prefer to do all the time, but it gets the job done. It is harsh i will agree and it sucks on the throat, but it works on some days when i am more stressed out then others...i work in the medical field. Been thinking about dipping my feet into building my own coils, just not there yet. Honestly i don't really care to. I am a simple girl when it comes to vaping. I got my provari, my kabuki tanks, and vape around 12watts...good to go with that setup, it's the nic that varies depending on my day. Do you think nic is going to be a problem in the future? some say yes and some say no just more costly from what i gather. Been eyeing a freezer but wow will it be tight in my kitchen. I live in a cabin on the lake, like you i gave up space to look out my back door and have a beautiful lake staring back at me...oh i wish it was the ocean as in your case...so jealous!

My opinion on future nic availability is no more reliable than anyone elses . It just seems prudent to plan for worst case here. Still vaping the 50mg in rotation today. I seem to be building a tolerance for it, haha!. I ordered 6 packs of 1.6R Natuilus coils from this ebay listing yesterday... someone here had pioneered that one and they are authentic and verified. At $6/pack of 5 it almost isn't worth building but it's a minor hobby of mine when I'm (rarely) in the mood. Plus more FDA proofing. When I do get in the mood I'll wind a dozen or more coils and stash them in an empty Altoids tin. That makes a coil change quicker when the time comes.