I have yet to see any that's been properly stored in the freezer go bad. The juice I'm vaping right now was made with 100 mg base that I bought in the first half of 2014, over five years ago.
Current thinking as mentioned is that it will last indefinitely in the freezer. I have been mixing my own going on 10 of my 12 years vaping now. I have had 3 year old 100mg in the freezer that was just as good as day 1. Keep in mind that PG is a preservative. I have also had a nic supplier tell me (off the record) that it will probably last indefinitely. My wife and I go through a 1L bottle of 100mg every 14months... out of sheer laziness I keep my "working bottle" of 100mg in the pantry unrefrigerated and it is totally fine at the end of those 14 months.But did you know that nic can go bad, even if stored in the freezer? Storage in a freezer allows for zero daylight/Sun exposure, unless being used to make juice, and freezing helps to make it last longer. I mean, storing it in the freezer in glass is the best way for multiple reasons. Can't remember precisely, but I think it will last up to 1 year in the freezer (and please, anyone who knows better, correct me!), but this was said about 36mg nic, back in very early 2013, when 36mg was the highest concentration generally found in online vape shops. I'm buying 100mg now, but have never had an issue with it going bad before emptying the bottle.
Whatever the actual time frame is, it will ultimately go bad, even if stored in a freezer, and especially 100mg/ml. The higher the nic concentration, the more quickly it will go bad. I move mine from the dark blue plastic bottle it comes in into a 1L Cobalt Blue Glass bottle as soon as I can, to help prevent the plastic from tainting it. In case you didn't know, Cobalt Blue Glass is better to use than Amber Glass. Can't remember all of the reasons, but the main reason is that Cobalt Blue blocks sunlight exposure better. But this is why I won't stock up on it... because it will go bad. And here's another reason why...
Vapers Tek is the supplier I was talking about when I said that one supplier I wrote to already has a plan to be prepared for disaster, should that happen... if you saw this mentioned in one of my posts. It was the day after Trump's Flavor Ban announcement that I wrote to them, so I'm sure the plan is well on it's way to implementation now. But considering that this post may have been missed by some of you, and I did not say much then, I am going into detail about it now, plus the fact that I was asked about it.
Since I am fairly confident that I'll be able to get nic product, I won't be stocking up on it. I would advise you and everyone else to contact them and let them know that you want to be contacted if they go underground or whatever, and purchase your Nic and USP products from them now! That is, if you want to stock up on Quality product.
This is a link to their Premium Nicotine product page.
Select from 100% PG or VG. No 50/50 listed, but they can mix whatever you want.
They used to have a Throat-Hit Nicotine available, but I don't find it listed as for sale at the moment.
This is a link to their USP PG/VG product page.
Select from 100% PG or VG.
When Vapers Tek opened (or at least when I found them) in 2013, this was said to be the Best (purest, cleanest, smelling, no-taste) Nicotine product available on the American Market everywhere on the Internet, and I have been purchasing my Nicotine and USP from them since. I learned of them in an ECF easter egg contest, where I won a liter of 100mg nic, and as said, I've been using it ever since.
Odds are that unflavored 100mg nic will be a thing of the past come May 2020... not to mention the bill on the floor right now wanting to add a tax that works out to $2780 for a 1 liter bottle. Between both of those issues I am taking no chances and have 15.5L in my stash and plan to add 2 more liters for good measure.
Hold on just a minute! I never said or implied that they would explain anything at all about the plan they have, either in progress (if it is) or not, and they gave me no information about it, other than to say that they had a plan.
Thanks for the good news!
As I said, I was going on something said way back in 2013.That's some good information, there!
My 100mg nic is always going to be in 100% VG. Do you know of any difference between yours in PG and mine in VG?I know that PG and VG will always be found relatively easily, but since nic may be targeted, guess I need to stock up while I can. Thank you for telling me!
Believe me, I will not be looking for underground sources. But if Vapers Tek has to make a move to survive, I will follow them wherever they go.
Hold on just a minute! I never said or implied that they would explain anything at all about the plan they have, either in progress (if it is) or not, and they gave me no information about it, other than to say that they had a plan.
In my original post where I said I had received some encouraging comments from 2 of the vendors I wrote to, and one of them had a plan, I also said there "I wish they had shared the plan with me, so I could share it with others." Maybe not in those exact words, but I made it clear that I did not know what the plan was. Don't really know where you got that impression. All I did was say to contact them to tell them that you wanted them to have permission to contact you, should they decide to make a move to go underground.
Thanks for the good news!
Thanks for that! Yes, that was all there was to it, and I was told they would contact all of their customers anyway. I still have to recommend Vapers Tek as a great source for Quality Nic and USP. Since reading all of the info given in reply after that post, I'm going to stock up on 100mg, too. Maybe not 15.5 bottles of it
It's also for my wife too. And we vape 18-20mg, but plan on cutting down to 9-10mg over the next 5-7 years so that our nic will last a lifetime. (We started out 12 years ago at 36mg)
Kurt, our resident chemist some years ago (who hasn't been here in quite some time), thought that the higher viscosity of VG might slow the nic's interaction with any oxygen present. I've seen no real difference. At room temperature they both darken, and in the freezer, they both remain clear.
Yes, he was great for that kind of info! In case you didn't know, Kurt became the Head Chemist "Chemistry Consultant" of AEMSA - American E-Liquid Manufacturing Standards Association. He used to help me with a lot of, what I'll call, Safety issues/concerns, back in 2013 and for a few years, each time some new Scare/Alert came out about e-cigs, plus we discussed several other kinds of things. He was and still is a Chemistry Professor at Pennsylvania State University, Brandywine, so he stays busy. So much so that his last post on ECF was Oct 16, 2017.
