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Whole Leaf Tobacco vs Company Tobacco

Discussion in 'Liquid Extraction From Tobacco' started by Devilstompa, Aug 23, 2015.

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  1. Devilstompa

    Devilstompa Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 25, 2015
    Im shure its better to use whole leaf tobacco and not use cigs or cigars you just pick up from a store.
    Is there really a lot of extra chemicals in them compared to whole leaf tobacco? And if you where to buy whole leaf tobacco is there any extra Tobacco laws you have to know before purchasing it?
     
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  2. LobsterGoD

    LobsterGoD Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 25, 2009
    absolutely, if you must use cig tobacco use the ryo. It usually doesnt get sprayed with all the crap premade cigs do. You best bet though is whole leaf.
     
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  3. Bunnykiller

    Bunnykiller ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 17, 2013
    New Orleans La.
    I find cigars and pipe tobaccos the better choice for extracting.... RYO and bulk cigarette tobaccos seem to have a "bitterness" to them once extracted... I tried 3 different types and all 3 didnt pan out as well as I thought they should have...
     
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  4. Max0819

    Max0819 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 25, 2010
    Seattle
    A world of difference, night and day. I am still a part time smoker, and actually one of the reasons is I make my own cigs and they are inexpensive. Less than a dollar a pack. Currently appx 60 cents.

    Truth be I can't smoke pre-made cigs anymore as I get an horrible headache if I try one, and the taste is crap. Since switching to natural tobacco (straight leaves) I don't need them as much, I feel better, and I still get that nice calming, and mental clarity that I am so addicted to.

    From a legal standpoint, you can buy whole unprocessed leaves and have them shipped to your door quite inexpensively, as the tax is very low. Lower than Pipe tobacco. Pipe tobacco is still quite a bit lower (tax wise) than cig tobacco or cigs.

    There are sites that sell pipe tobacco, in a cigarette cut. Meaning the shredding of the tobacco is such that it will work for making cigs. If you get a "Natural" pipe tobacco, it is unadulterated by any chemicals, flavorings, processing, etc. Just chopped up leaves.

    If interested PM me, and I will hit you with a link where I buy pre-cut tobacco when I am in a pinch and don't have leaves. (raises my per/pack to about 90cents.).

    Max
     
  5. Exchaner

    Exchaner Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 29, 2013
    California
    I get my dry tobacco leaves from LeafOnly. I Don't think a tax is charged, but I doubt they are organic.
     
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  6. Exchaner

    Exchaner Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 29, 2013
    California
    If cigarette tobacco has a bitter taste, then I wonder why Big Spirit from NET.COM is so popular. Do they add anything to mask the bitterness? Such as Ethyl Maltol for example - somewhat of a sweetener.
     
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  7. Bunnykiller

    Bunnykiller ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 17, 2013
    New Orleans La.
    BigSpirit is the exception to the general rule since they are labeled chemical free tobaccos, the ones I tried were RYO blends from a local store ( bagged and labeled by the shop) no idea where or who they got the bulk from.... all 3 extractions were bitter, grassy, strong chlorophyl hint to them...
     
  8. yourgurnard

    yourgurnard Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 3, 2015
    London
    I've extracted from wholeleaf, RYO (as I had a load left from when I was smoking it!), & more recently, started doing pipe 'baccy (from reading on here!!).
    My results indicated that pipe 'baccy produced a stronger concentrate that allowed a lower % 'in da mix' than wholeleaf. I did n't get any chlorophyll taste, tho' the cigar tobaccos were more bitter than the Virginia or Burley leaf.
    I'd never try from a tailored cig. due to not trusting wot's added...burn acceleraters & wotnot.....& never liking the taste of 'em when I smoked!
     
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