• Need help from former MFS (MyFreedomSmokes) customers

    Has any found a supplier or company that has tobacco e-juice like or very similar to MFS Turbosmog, Tall Paul, or Red Luck?

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radiokaos

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Searched the site (while logged in) and did not find a subscribe button or newsletter option. Am I just being slow?

I need to do more with the site and just a simple newsletter. URGHH....About 2/3 down there is a button for the newsletter option. I need to focus on my priorities right now and get a few things fixed.
 

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Please let us know when you send the newsletter out so we can be sure we're receiving it. I work on Saturdays so the system you used for sales last time didn't work well for me. Just trying to figure out how to make a successful purchase. Thanks!

Will do a member here is going to help me with this newsletter and make it look nice and clean. As I mentioned are batch is complete. However I have a few gig on the road for the next week so it will either be the weekend of the 15th or the weekend following that.
 

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According to some genius on FB, we are all idiots for buying WTA. According to him WTA is in all e-liquids made from a tobacco maceration process.

(Although he doesn't know for sure....) ;)

What's up with the haters anyway? :?:

I'm going to agree with Ceegary and say it's probably ignorance. Of course there's the "premium" price as well. Some people just don't understand why anyone else would spend $3/mL when nicquid is available for < $.50/mL. If I'm spending less on the tobacco products I was using to supplement nicquid it works out in the end for me. That may not be the case for everyone though.

I've been rationing WTA to 2-3 drops per day. I haven't used any snus since I started using it. Granted I was only using a piece or two per day, but that was enough to maintain the "balance" I had been missing since I gave up analogs. All-in-all, I'm happy with the product. I hope it's something I can eventually phase out along with nicotine and vaping all together, but I'm taking my time.
 

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To illustrate the ignorance, the following recent posts on an ECF thread are from a well-known manufacturer of mods and ECF member since '99. Not naming or slamming them but it's illustrative.

"Are there liquids that use natural tobacco extracts????? "

Then "Guys, 1 min please.

I thought 1 year ago to make a juice with tobacco extracts but if I would do it then what are the benefits from vaping? Will we start again smoking? Thats crazy and silly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cigs have inside carginogenic materials, dangerous heavy metals, radioactive meterials, etc. Is this the new style of vaping? I am socked!! "

And..."of course __. Because then I cant find a reason at all to vape. I can go to buy some marlboro again!
Its the most redicolous thing I have even heard. And I am really ungry right now And its a shame if this really happens "

And "Using tobacco is a crime to my opinion Vanhalen. But I will do some research about this first"

This is just about macerated tobacco, now would you like to discuss WTA with this person?
 

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I read that too.

Maceration may leave some WTAs, but it's going to leave all kinds of other impurities as well. A well-known pod cast recently made unsupported comments too. Several other Pro-Elitist Reviewers are also jumping on the anti bandwagon, under the premise that the FDA will find them when testing juices. My position is: "So What?" E-liquids are going to be regulated as tobacco products & WTA is from tobacco. One of these reviewers is also a vendor & still a smoker. These people are barely members of ECF anymore. They have isolated themselves into their worlds of internet broadcasting, YouTube reviews, & bloggers. Rarely will they contribute to a discussion here.
 

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Yeah, I listened to some of that pod-cast too. Again, I'm not slamming, criticizing, nor demanding qualifications but trying to point out the lack of understanding and knowledge. From various posts it seems that many don't realize that the FDA ARE going to regulate e-juice as a tobacco product, whether it's just nicotine or other alkaloids as well. Logically, we can't fault the reasoning that something made from tobacco leaves is a tobacco product. The victory was in not having it regulated as a drug delivery system.
 

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    I've seen a post here and there where uninformed people ask " why are people adding WTA to liquids". What they don't understand is that it's not putting an additive in liquid. It's simply leaving in the other tobacco alkaloids that occur naturally in tobacco to different extents depending on the tobacco used.
     

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    Yeah, I listened to some of that pod-cast too. Again, I'm not slamming, criticizing, nor demanding qualifications but trying to point out the lack of understanding and knowledge. From various posts it seems that many don't realize that the FDA ARE going to regulate e-juice as a tobacco product, whether it's just nicotine or other alkaloids as well. Logically, we can't fault the reasoning that something made from tobacco leaves is a tobacco product. The victory was in not having it regulated as a drug delivery system.

    Really. And like nicotine isn't a tobacco product? We've already been there for a long time.
     

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    ive been slammed for my video even had inbox emails threatening that the FDA will be knocking at my door, i find it silly really. there has been no long term research on vaping so much for WTAs. I might not be a chemist, or a scientist the fact remains that vaping is not as harmful as cigarettes. Thats how i approached it and thats the way im going to keep it.
     

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    To illustrate the ignorance, the following recent posts on an ECF thread are from a well-known manufacturer of mods and ECF member since '99. Not naming or slamming them but it's illustrative.

    "Are there liquids that use natural tobacco extracts????? "

    Then "Guys, 1 min please.

    I thought 1 year ago to make a juice with tobacco extracts but if I would do it then what are the benefits from vaping? Will we start again smoking? Thats crazy and silly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    cigs have inside carginogenic materials, dangerous heavy metals, radioactive meterials, etc. Is this the new style of vaping? I am socked!! "

    And..."of course __. Because then I cant find a reason at all to vape. I can go to buy some marlboro again!
    Its the most redicolous thing I have even heard. And I am really ungry right now And its a shame if this really happens "

    And "Using tobacco is a crime to my opinion Vanhalen. But I will do some research about this first"

    This is just about macerated tobacco, now would you like to discuss WTA with this person?

    I didn't read this thread, but I'd like to know what difference it makes to him?. If I want to spend all of my money inhaling lime juice infused with cat pi*s*s, what's it to him?

    Interesting how, after an uneducated rant, he decides to 'do some research about this first'. Come to think of it, isn't that how the FDA operates, as well? :laugh:
     

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    I read that too.

    Maceration may leave some WTAs, but it's going to leave all kinds of other impurities as well. A well-known pod cast recently made unsupported comments too. Several other Pro-Elitist Reviewers are also jumping on the anti bandwagon, under the premise that the FDA will find them when testing juices. My position is: "So What?" E-liquids are going to be regulated as tobacco products & WTA is from tobacco. One of these reviewers is also a vendor & still a smoker. These people are barely members of ECF anymore. They have isolated themselves into their worlds of internet broadcasting, YouTube reviews, & bloggers. Rarely will they contribute to a discussion here.

    There was a recent study (which I'd have to look for the source, but I believe it was posted in the news and media section) where they were identifying the WTAs as "impurities" rather than what they are. I'll see if I can find it and post a link here.
     
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