Why are disposables looked so downly upon here?

[New2Smoking]

So I'm new to this (as you can see from my sn lol)...and I've been using a couple disposables to start with. And I'm thinking that I can stay like that for a month, while i read everything on here and gain some knowledge on the fancy permanent stuff before spending my hard earned money on it.


But it seems like every one here doesn't really like disposables...is this because it's not cost efficient or because it's not as healthy or what?

 

[cags]

I think it is because of the cost, but actually there are people here who like them

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/disposable-e-cigarettes/410315-white-cloud-flings-fast-review.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/disposable-e-cigarettes/326318-njoy-king-looks-very-cool-19.html

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Hi and welcome. Generally because they're expensive, have low battery life and don't perform as well as rechargeables. Having said that I have a convert that quit analogs via disposable ecigs.

 

[vapero]

they are not as efficient and are expensive in the long run.
if you are using a for example njoy you'll get like about half or less than a pack for 8 bucks, and with a starter ego setup once you cover the investment you could be spending like 1 dollar a day with your liquid refills (YMMV) and if you go into the DIY like me I'm spending just 3 cents a day and have a much more satisfying experience than with the disposables

 

[suspectK]

Disposables can be a good choice if you want to see if you'd like to start using e-cigs, but it would probably be cheaper to get an ego battery or microlite or other cigalike battery that is rechargeable. The liquid is just the liquid that comes with it, so it probably isn't a good idea to base your decision of how it feels from that.

The real deciding factor: Why spend about $10 on something you throw away rather quickly, when you can just spend $20-$40 on a starter kit that you can recharge and use for an extended period of time?

 

[Zee2006]

Just glad you're vaping

I'm sure you know this but you can get started if and when you want for a pretty low price... usually less then a carton of smokes... I know Totally Wicked has a kit just under $27.00 and I know there are several others.....

all and all just glad you're moving away from the real cigs (ok you didn't say that, I'm assuming)

 

[Lee1111]

Hi and welcome. Generally because they're expensive, have low battery life and don't perform as well as rechargeables. Having said that I have a convert that quit analogs via disposable ecigs.

I share this sentiment. As a smoker who converted through Blu's 3 years ago, I DO have to say, a co-worker came in with a "new" Blu the other day. While it was labeled as pipe tobacco now, it reminded me of the cappuccino flavor that I had indeed liked so much when starting out. The big difference was, it performed about 10x better than that Blu that I had bought 3 years ago. The "disposables" have come a long way IMHO. You don't need to think of it as your main device, but rather a device to fit the situation you're going to be using it in. Cig-a-likes have their uses too.

All-in-all, yes, the more robust devices generally perform better and longer, but every device has a use, as long as it allows you to vape!

 

[pray4mojo37]

you will spend less $ in your first month if you pop for a starter kit and some juice and you will (imo) have a way better experience. i recommend going to a well known, versatile juice vendor site (heathers heavenly vapes is great) and getting an ego starter kit and a 30ml bottle of 70/30 pg/vg juice in a flavor that sounds appealing to you.

if you are confused or have specific questions, youve come to the right place

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

As others have pointed out, the disposables aren't cost effective over the long run. However, the White Cloud Fling series might be, but only if you buy 10 at a time.

Like you and many others, my first step away from combustible tobacco tubes was a gas station Blu disposable. Then, I tried Fin. Then, I tried NJoy.

For me, switching to e-cigs had to be a cost effective way of quitting smoking, and the disposables weren't getting it done. Dropped the cash for a simple eGo starter kit and two bottles of liquid and never looked back.

 

[sonnguyen10123]

started off with njoy, then blu disposeables. then got hooked on shisha disposeables because their flavors were starbuzz hookah. hopefully they make liquid of it!

 

[SharonMM]

No no, don't misunderstand.. the one and only thing that seems to be agreed upon here is that anything that keeps you off of cigarettes is a good thing. So if you like disposables, and you're happy with them, then we are happy for you.

However.. most of us here who have tried disposables found them to unsatisfying. If that should ever become the case with you, please know that there are other options, and there are plenty of folks here who would be happy to help you find the gear that is best suited to your needs.

Congratulations on making the switch and welcome to ecf!

 

[RobinBanks]

I don't look down on them, vaping technology is amazing. period. Having tried Blu before, I think my current PV setup is

1) cheaper (If you don't buy as many toys and fancy juices as I do, which you certainly DO NOT have to). Compared to disposables and depending on how much yu use them, I think the cost of your PV set-up could be considerably cheaper. Then even if you do quit vaping, you can gift it to someone else that wants to switch.

2) way more enjoyable / satisfying experience.. which for many people seems to translate to a higher success rate.

Even though the Blu didn't cut it for me, I have a co-worker who has been using and enjoying it for a few months now, happily.

Also, welcome fellow New Jersian

 

[Cactus Breath]

The first e-cig that was able to wean me from cigarettes was the nJoy disposable; however, I quickly figured out that at $8 a pop for the equivalent of about 6-8 cigarettes, it would cost me around $30 per day. I then tried a Greensmoke "cigalike" kit, but found myself constantly swapping batteries on and off the charger, and their cartos are proprietary (can't be refilled, other brand cartos don't fit their batteries) and expensive. They kept me off the cigarettes, but I only used them for a week or so before I ordered an eGo setup.

It's not really a matter of them being "looked down upon" - as SharonMM said, whatever keeps you off cigarettes is a good thing. It's more a matter of there being better alternatives available that are more dependable, more satisfying and less expensive in the long run. With that said, there are many ex-smokers who are perfectly satisfied and happily vaping away with their cigalike setup - and there's not one thing wrong with that.

 

[Moogle]

Expensive and poor quality in my experience. An E-go is way better.

 

[jrenae4]

I don't look down on them AT ALL. Got my blu starter kit and LOVED it! Tried cherry crush carts...oh ma gah! Amazing! A week later...the charger pack stopped charging therefore my batteries died. Disappointed Meanwhile had been googling reviews of blus and found this site. Decided to try an ego set up rather than spend more on blus. Just came in the mail today so I'll keep ya posted! But back in my mind I knew blu wouldn't cut it for good so I'm hoping this does! The people here are so helpful and I'm thankful for them. If you ever decide you need more come here and ask! Meanwhile, enjoy your blu

 

[mcol]

Yep, quit smoking with the White Cloud Flings.

 

[ut1205]

First of all I am new to this and know nothing about the disposables. That said, I know that one size doesn't fit all. I wanted something that I customize to my needs. I purchased a "starter kit" from Aqua Vapors for $19.99 plus shipping. It came with two bottles of juice. One was a tobacco flavor at 18 mg nic and I chose the other to be Root Beer at 24 mg nic. If I had only been able to try the 18 mg then I would have considered it a lost cause and resumed the analogs. After trying the 24 mg I put down the analogs and today is the seventh day since I have had one. I have smoked two packs a day for 45 years.

This is just what seems to be working for me. If the disposables are working for you then don't change a thing.

 

[Fizzpop]

My wife and I started with Fins. They were great! Widely available, decent flavor, rechargeable and cheap to get into - I think the starter pack was $15. We didn't want to drop $100 on something that we weren't sure would work for us. The Fins worked and the rest is history so to speak.

So why did we "upgrade" to APVs and eGos and Clearomizers and such? Basically, while the cig-a-likes like the Fin or the Blu are cheap to get into, they are not cheap to maintain. The pre-filled cartomizers are expensive and sold as disposable; the small batteries won't get you through a full day and it doesn't take long till they aren't holding a charge well. Combine all this with the desire to try other juices other than "normal Fin" and "menthol Fin" and you have a pretty strong reason to start looking at alternatives.

The important thing, however, is that the need to look around a bit comes along at the right time. Vaping is needlessly complicated. For the new user coming in, all the talk of various devices, batteries, and threadings is very confusing. I remember the first time I started looking for upgrades, sitting there puffing on my Fin and being utterly lost by all the choices. The cig-a-likes work, are simple, and let you know if you might like vaping. My trusty, simple little Fins worked for me while I started to make sense of Clearomizers, Carto-Tanks, Bottom Feeders, eGos, APVs, and rebuildable drippers. By the time I ordered I kinda knew what I was doing. And I knew vaping was working for me; dropping that $100 at this point made sense because it was no longer a gamble.

The upgrades perform better, have a lower total cost of ownership, and offer more personal choice. But I don't hate the cig-a-likes, they have an important place in our little eco-system.

 

[vjc0628]

I would guess most have started with them I could be wrong

but it was my first then to the cigalike with cartridge and then on and on

when you try other thing you'll understand to its not that people are down on it in a bad way just found a better way

what it does is open the door it starts you off and that's a good thing

I seen this video here and had to laugh it reminds me of me
4 Stages of Vaping - YouTube

 

[djsvapour]

Hi and welcome. Generally because they're expensive, have low battery life and don't perform as well as rechargeables. Having said that I have a convert that quit analogs via disposable ecigs.

Excellent!

Now, add to that the fact that all the manufacturers lie about what their product can do and, BINGO, a full house of despair.

- - -

In truth, there is plenty to recommend in a disposable. I am trying lots of them at the moment to find some good ones.

I recently brought the British American Tobacco e-cig (called Vype) into disrepute. £6.99 for one disposable. Doesn't sound too bad, until you realise the BAT have even admitted the user can only expect to get 60% of the 18.6mg. Making it 11mg for £6.99.

or put another way £13.99 for a pack of 20 cigarettes-worth of nicotine. (unless we are talking ultra-lights of course...)