Why buy an APV?

[Yinzer]

Just throwing it out there. I have been using the Twist since August. I own two. Combined with some lightly modded clearos and EMDCCs, I am highly satisfied. Works well 98% of the time. Two fully charged batts last me 3 days. I've never been stuck, can take them anywhere. And there hasn't been any noticeable drop in performance even with many recharges. And 25$ a pop, not bad.

But I've been eyeing up a Zmax or the new evic. My question...if the Twist has been serving me so well, what benefits will I notice, and are they worth the upfront cost?

 

[vsummer1]

With the accurate output and ability to set it to the watts you prefer to vape at, there is no contest really. The twist just can't compete. Poor things, I really used to like them. I still throw one in my purse as backup but if I am reaching for a vape, the twist seems to be left out in the cold.

 

[gthompson]

If it makes you happy, there's nothing wrong with a Twist.

 

[Thrasher]

well the first benefit is nothing to toss, when the ego's finally die the whole thing ends up in a landfill batteries for most mods are in the 6-10 dollar range and last close to a year if not more.
the second is depending on the mod, the voltage is more steady throughout the battery life. and they can usually handle the few items the egos cannot - voltage,amperage wise.

it ultimately comes down to choice, if the egos work there is nothing wrong with them. i personally own an APV for the above mentioned reasons. plus i can easily send mine in for repairs should something happen to it.

 

[SissySpike]

APV is better in the long run disposables are always more expensive. I have not tried one yet I do have a eVic on the way from China I am thinking it will be hands down better than the Zmax Smoktek has been putting out poorly calibrated inconsistently functioning mods for some time now all of the Max family leaves a lot to be desired. Joytech on the other hand is probably the most trusted name in mass produced ecigs out of China. since your content for now Id wait till some of us reviewers and gotta have it two weeks before it hits the marketers puts the eVic to the test.

 

[fourthrok]

I have moved on to the APVs in my vaping evolution...primarily due to the replaceable battery thing, and also they can (in many instances) be repaired if something goes wrong. Plus many of them are very versatile and can use different size/types of batteries. Of course, I am not taking about something like the Vmax or Zmax or whatever variable-whatzit. That's something a bit different when it comes to "repairs". But over all...the APVs offer more of a longer life (replaceable batteries) and a stronger, more satisfying "hit". I've come to like the larger size (girth) too. Something nice and solid about it. I've tried going back to my "little" eGo sized batteries now and again, and they feel so...wimpy and little. Not awful. Great for going out and stuff. But not the same as a nice fat APV (either tube or box) with a knock 'em dead vapor delivery!

 

[tj99959]

I place a higher value on what I choose to use on a PV than I do on the PV itself. Sure you can always find PV's that are more consistent, or regulate voltage or watts more accurately, or are just prettier, but in the end, none are any better than what is attached to them.

So if I'm looking at this or that PV, but the XXX atty, carto, or clearo that I like doesn't work well on it maybe I should be looking at a different PV instead.

 

[Yinzer]

I place a higher value on what I choose to use on a PV than I do on the PV itself. Sure you can always find PV's that are more consistent, or regulate voltage or watts more accurately, or are just prettier, but in the end, none are any better than what is attached to them.

That was my thought. I've spent a good bit of time and money on cartos / clearos, and have finally settled on a Vision V3. Easy to work on, works wonderfully, cheap. I get more vapor than I need, most of the time. I just wonder...if I pop that clearo on the evic or zmax, won't it work just about the same?

I'm not knocking APVs. I'll probably end up with one...but I'm just considering the fact I went from a Blu (lasted a month), to ego based. Jumped 10x MAH in a single bound. Lots more options. From a standard ego battery to the twist opened up a few more doors. Has taken me a few months, but I have a setup that I don't have to think about. I can take a few clearos with me, and dial up or down the voltage as needed. I wonder how big the jump from a nicely setup Twist + modded clearo will be, to an APV. Don't want to set my expectations too high.

 

[TCasualties]

There's nothing wrong with the Ego's, I own an Ego-C Upgrade myself... But ever since I picked up a Silver Bullet, the Ego just doesn't do the job for me anymore.

 

[gimmieshelter31]

I moved on to an APV due to the need for increased battery life and regulation. Started with ego type non regulated 3.7v batts ,went to a roughstack for battery life and durability. The twist wasn't out when I got the roughstack and it served me well for over a year.

Having grown accustom and liking the tube form factor ,it was an easy conclusion for myself to choose another. Almost chose the Lambo but in the end ProVari won. No regrets.

See, for me ,it was about satisfying my needs.I never changed just for the sake of it but due to deal breaking short comings discovered after living with my device for awhile. You may consider that there is absolutely no reason for you to get an APV provided you are satisfied with your setup. There obviously are many great devices to suit a variety of people and their personal needs and desires. Sounds to me like yours are being met.

 

[Yinzer]

I moved on to an APV due to the need for increased battery life and regulation. Started with ego type non regulated 3.7v batts ,went to a roughstack for battery life and durability. The twist wasn't out when I got the roughstack and it served me well for over a year.

Having grown accustom and liking the tube form factor ,it was an easy conclusion for myself to choose another. Almost chose the Lambo but in the end ProVari won. No regrets.

See, for me ,it was about satisfying my needs.I never changed just for the sake of it but due to deal breaking short comings discovered after living with my device for awhile. You may consider that there is absolutely no reason for you to get an APV provided you are satisfied with your setup. There obviously are many great devices to suit a variety of people and their personal needs and desires. Sounds to me like yours are being met.

Good point. The Blu introduced me to the world of vaping, but once I discovered that I could kill the battery in thirty minutes...and a pre-filled cart in under a day...I ventured into the world of juice and refillable carts. That led to the eGo. That led to clearos and the Twist. The Blu annoyed me, as I didn't desire to quit using nicotine, just wanted to stop chewing. The Twist has yet to present any deal breakers.

In all honesty, I have a setup (like you said) that is working really well. I think I'd rather invest money in exploring different juice manufacturers. Cheap chinese juice led to Tasty Vapor led to Halo...will lead to...

 

[tc1]

The only real reason I moved on to an APV was the ability to pop in and out inexpensive batteries. Having a quicker way to check ohms was nice as well.

Otherwise ... I love twist/spinner style vvs. Tweaking your voltage to taste is so easy and quick on them. They'll always be in my arsenal, especially when I'm out and about.

 

[Mitra2012]

Can someone tell me what APV and MVP means? (What's it short for?)

ntopic: I love my 1000mAh Twist, but i needed more battery life and higher Voltage, so i went for ProVari and iTaste MVP.
The Twist is good for backup.

 

[SissySpike]

I place a higher value on what I choose to use on a PV than I do on the PV itself. Sure you can always find PV's that are more consistent, or regulate voltage or watts more accurately, or are just prettier, but in the end, none are any better than what is attached to them.

So if I'm looking at this or that PV, but the XXX atty, carto, or clearo that I like doesn't work well on it maybe I should be looking at a different PV instead.

Very valid point why buy a top end mod if your just going to use ViVi novas There are lots of great RBAs and nice carto tanks out there to me when you cross the line to full time vapor not just a smoker trying to quit this is the direction to go.

 

[tc1]

Can someone tell me what APV and MVP means? (What's it short for?)

ntopic: I love my 1000mAh Twist, but i needed more battery life and higher Voltage, so i went for ProVari and iTaste MVP.
The Twist is good for backup.

MVP is a new device that was recently released. Not sure if it stands for anything outside of Most Valuable Pv? lol

APV = Andvanced Personal Vaporizer

 

[tc1]

I place a higher value on what I choose to use on a PV than I do on the PV itself. Sure you can always find PV's that are more consistent, or regulate voltage or watts more accurately, or are just prettier, but in the end, none are any better than what is attached to them.

So if I'm looking at this or that PV, but the XXX atty, carto, or clearo that I like doesn't work well on it maybe I should be looking at a different PV instead.

Very valid point why buy a top end mod if your just going to use ViVi novas There are lots of great RBAs and nice carto tanks out there to me when you cross the line to full time vapor not just a smoker trying to quit this is the direction to go.

Some people use their Novas as rbas.

 

[SissySpike]

Can someone tell me what APV and MVP means? (What's it short for?)

ntopic: I love my 1000mAh Twist, but i needed more battery life and higher Voltage, so i went for ProVari and iTaste MVP.
The Twist is good for backup.

Advanced Personnel Vaporizer APV No idea what iTaste MVP stand for possibly Most Valuable Player as its a new player in their lineup but Im just guessing,
Someone dident like the term Mod: Modified Device so APV is one of the descriptive names that has stuck

 

[SissySpike]

Some people use their Novas as rbas.

Very true I know lots of people like them but IMO its only because they have not used something better the pulse is they are cheap and readily available its also the the minus there are way better products out there but you have to seek them out and the initial cost is more.
If someone thinks ViVi Novas are the bomb good for them I happen to think they suck, but that just My Opinion and I am not in the popular opinion for sure!

 

[Yinzer]

Very valid point why buy a top end mod if your just going to use ViVi novas There are lots of great RBAs and nice carto tanks out there to me when you cross the line to full time vapor not just a smoker trying to quit this is the direction to go.

I understand that there are probably better clearo tanks out there, and other delievery systems, but I'm really function over form. I'm using the smaller Vision clearos...have swapped out the silica for cotton...and the amount of vapor / TH / flavor is impressive, to me. I don't think I need anything else...

I dunno. Maybe it's my mentality. I've always been function over form. When I was car shopping, and wanted something quick, I ended up in a Saturn Ion Redline that, with some minor work, is pretty damn quick. But...it's a Saturn. Cheap speed. Not really a head turner. But I don't care. That's part of the fun, for me. It's rough around the edges, but does what it needs to do. And I can fill up that said car with too thick to see vapor in four or five hits off my Twist + clearo. I just wonder if I really need the APV Mine's rough around the edges, a "sleeper," and took a little bit of work to get there, but now I only have to buy one or two $25 batteries a year...if that. I dunno.

However, the fact I have to ask leads me to believe a seed's been planted. I'm pretty sure a light saber vaporizer will be here within six months

 

[Pappy]

Yinzer, I've got lots of different PVs (Lavatube, Silverbullet, Reo, etc.) and my 650mah Twist and my 1300mah Spinner are my most used PVs. I exclusively use Vivi Novas with my PVs. The Twist and a Mini Vivi Nova is small, light, dependable, leak free, hassle free, provides a great vape and just works.

I'm perfectly content despite people telling me I should want something bigger and better.