Why do cartos in tanks get saturated?
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Interestingly someone on an Oz vaping site today told me the Smokteck DC tank cartos are prone to flooding and to consider switching to another brand...
I have this problem sometimes, and it does depend on what type of battery I am using and how I am feeling.
Sometimes I just suck....
Too hard.
I have this problem sometimes, and it does depend on what type of battery I am using and how I am feeling.
Sometimes I just suck....
Too hard.
Are you filling them in a way that there isn't any pressure in the tank when you complete the seal after filling?
Not quite sure what you mean Biz...I don't fill to the very top but try to get close to it. Maybe I will start not filling so high, thanks!
This subject came up on the V4L forum not too long ago and you've answered you own question. If you are getting juice in your mouth the fluid level is a little too high and your draw maybe a little too strong. Keep you tank at 3/4s full and see if it makes a difference for you.
Yes and yes SD. I will try not to be such a greedy vaper from now on I'm guilty of 'if a little is good than a LOT will be better'!
I'm guilty of 'if a little is good than a LOT will be better'!
plantlvr, I see this all the time with customers in the store. One way I tell them to avoid flooding is to not fill the cart directly but to fill only around inside the tank. Once the cap is back on I take dry hits to suck the juice through the holes in the bottom of the cart. Since I've stopped dripping directly in I haven't had any issues.
Here's my method:
1. fill tank around 3/4 full
2. syringe 1ml directly into carto
3. drip enough just to moisten top of polyfill (avoiding airhole of course)
4. put DT on and take 2-3 dry hits until I see bubbles & the tank level has lowered
5. top up tank to 7/8 if level is now too low & I need a full one.
This works for me consistently, I no longer get any burned cartos. If I'm careful, I don't flood the carto. The over-saturation of the cartos for me comes later, from chain vaping, from just sucking too hard (I think).
Thanks for that Katz. I'll tell people your method since you haven't had major flooding.
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{excerpt from V4L website}
"To fill the tank, simply pull the cartomizer down through the bottom of the tank slightly about 1/2 inch. When done correctly you should see a small gap between the top of the tank and the clear acrylic side of the tank. Tilt the tank slightly and fill directly into the cartomizer until it overflows. Then fill the tank that surrounds the cartomizer completely. After filling push the cartomizer back up inside the tank."
In other words, don't do it per the instructions on the website. Simply watch Snowdragon's video to fill tanks, does that about sum it up Bham? I'm pretty sure that is how Plant fills her tanks already.
If you fill a tank too high the level of juice saturation in the polyfill rises very close to the top of the carto....basic physics. When you take a draw it will result in juice blow-through leaving residual juice in the Air Wick Tube and in your mouth. Add a hard draw and these effects are magnified.
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Snow, my reply was not to contradict the site but to offer my personal way of filling in which I don't have issues. That isn't to say the sites instructions are incorrect. I just like giving my experiences because we all fill in different ways but I prefer my method because I'm just really clumsy and unlucky when it comes to juice
i have used Snow's method per the video and I have never had it overfilled ....to be fair ,this IS snowdragons method .
D'oh. That actually makes sense to me. I shall remember not to over-fill from now on.
Still, as I said, my over-saturation problems usually come later, after a solid vaping session.
good point. Sometimes I find myself telling DH how to cook something - then I remember he's a chef
Well then...please allow me to say it, THE WEBSITE INSTRUCTIONS ARE INCORRECT!!!
If the site instructions are correct explain to me exactly how you fill the cartomizer until if overflows without flooding it? Now, if we can all agree that those instructions are the polar opposite of how to avoid flooding the cartomizer common sense would dictate that the instructions should be changed....wouldn't you say?
How many people have followed those instructions to the letter only to have the cartomizer/tank flood time and time again? Should it really come as any surprise that you, "see this all the time with customers in the store" given the instructions on the website. Let's see, our instructions tell people to flood the tank cartomizer and people come into the store complaining they are always flooding the tank cartomizer......hmmmmmmm.
This isn't a "we all fill in different ways" scenario, this is simply correcting bad instructions on the website.
You're the Admin, talk to you-know-who and make the change on the website. Better yet simply put up a link and add my How To Video, the one that thousands of people including the staff at V4L has watched to learn how to fill a tank without flooding the carto. As of 1/12/12 mine was the only YT Video showing the specific technique of priming a carto with dry hits to ensure full saturation.
Furthermore....
As for some of the replies on this post from my fellow family members, thank you. Giving proper attribution isn't always necessary, but when a person is in a group discussion with the originator of the method they learned from it might not be the worst of ideas.
The OP never once mentions "flooding", do they? Gurgling, juice in the mouth isn't flooding, flooding is when the juice leaks out of the bottom of the cartomizer.
When I post a How To video you can be assured I have put a lot of time and energy in finding the best way out of many to do something. Then, without being paid, without monetizing my videos, or poorly plagiarizing someone else's video I share them in an easy to follow format with this forum family.
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Snowdragon, for what it is worth, I watched your video over and over again before I purchased my first tank. I watched it while filling my first tank and I watched it again when it came time to refill it. I personally have never had a tank leak or any other issue regarding the fill method you described. It is a terrific video for someone like me, who didn't know a thing and was sure I would make a mess of the entire process. You can't believe all those you have helped with that wonderful video! It is still my *tank bible*.
I would like to personally thank you for the time and research it took to make it. We have always said it should be on the main website, under tanks! No newbie should ever purchase a tank until they have watched your video!
I would like to personally thank you for the time and research it took to make it. We have always said it should be on the main website, under tanks! No newbie should ever purchase a tank until they have watched your video!
I am a fan of my method:
I usually take a fresh tank carto with a plug from the wow line inserted. Syringe fill with 1-1.2 ml's of fluid making sure I pull the needle up on the last .3 mls but not all the way up to the top. Afterwards I fill the tank to about half full. If I have time I usually will let it sit and equalize before I am on my way. Otherwise I screw onto my battery and away I go. No dry pulls (for me this was an issue at the start from either not pulling enough for pulling too much and having issues with flooding)
I am not much for variablility and since I really cannot control how much fluid I pull into the carto via dry pulling I have cut that out of the picture.
There are many ways to fill a tank... I am sure mine isn't original but I have adapted to it via my mistakes and findings therefore I simply say it is my method of filling a tank. Remember folks this is just a way to fill not THE way to fill.
I usually take a fresh tank carto with a plug from the wow line inserted. Syringe fill with 1-1.2 ml's of fluid making sure I pull the needle up on the last .3 mls but not all the way up to the top. Afterwards I fill the tank to about half full. If I have time I usually will let it sit and equalize before I am on my way. Otherwise I screw onto my battery and away I go. No dry pulls (for me this was an issue at the start from either not pulling enough for pulling too much and having issues with flooding)
I am not much for variablility and since I really cannot control how much fluid I pull into the carto via dry pulling I have cut that out of the picture.
There are many ways to fill a tank... I am sure mine isn't original but I have adapted to it via my mistakes and findings therefore I simply say it is my method of filling a tank. Remember folks this is just a way to fill not THE way to fill.
I love tanks i have many and have tried lots of methods , they are a little problematic at times , but i have found it to be mostly based on heat( hot outside, or chain vaping )when i have problems with them flooding . IT is very important to fill the carto before puting it in the tank but the level in the tank i found to not be important. i also always fill from the bottom by pushing carto in the tank just far enough to get needle tip in the tank and fill till almost full.
O by the way i fill cartos with the PBusardo condom method. quick easy . i also find it to be helpful to take a needle and loosen filler from the top and also thru the slot- punch in the carto , this helps wicking issues .
O by the way i fill cartos with the PBusardo condom method. quick easy . i also find it to be helpful to take a needle and loosen filler from the top and also thru the slot- punch in the carto , this helps wicking issues .
Agree strongly with Sir Snow, the website is incorrect. I also pointed this out both publicly and privately when the site relaunched, but apparently the company feels their method is superior, so I gave up...
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Bump....
Still unanswered....still not changed on the website.
Bham......?
Still unanswered....still not changed on the website.
Bham......?
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