why do I still want a cigarette so bad??

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sandybeach

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I pretty much agree with everyone else. Just take it at your own pace. You will know when it is time to quit analogs. I keep a pack in the glove box of my car just in case I want one. I don't want to feel deprived. But after 6 weeks, I really don't want one. I like the taste of e cigs better. Also, I found that 24 mg was too high for me, and settled in with 18 mg the first 4 weeks. Now I am wanting even lower nicotine so I can vape more without getting jittery.
 

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It took me 6 months of smoking and vaping before I finally quit. I started with a 510 kit from Volcano and while it knocked down the amount I smoked, it wasn't enough to get me to quit. Months later I got my Chuck (3.7v) and knew the juices I liked and it was very easy to transition over. It's been over 16 months now since I've had a cigarette and I'll never go back to them. I think it's all about finding the right device and liquid that work for you. For some people, the pen style PVs do it and for others it takes getting a mod. After getting my MV VV box mod, that's the way to go and I'll never buy something that is not VV for daily use (I'm sure I'll buy others just to try them). The way I see it, it's all about the cigarettes you don't smoke. If you smoke 10 less cigarettes a day because of vaping, you're making progress. Not everyone quits smoking after their first puff on an e-cig. I applaud those that do.

My roommate has been back and forth with vaping and smoking for well over a year. He started with a Volcano 510 as well, which sort of worked for him. I sold him my Chuck and he quit smoking for quite a while with it. He won't do any research and gets frustrated way too quickly (plus he's not on top of ordering attys, we have plenty of liquid here). He still uses it, but is smoking a lot more lately. His g/f, who also lives with us, is a smoker and refuses to quit or try e-cigs, which is not helping at all. I just gave him my Silver Bullet tonight because he's tired of the Chuck and has talked about wanting to buy a SB, but not wanting to spend the money on one. I'm hoping that having a PV he likes will get him to use it more.
 
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It took me from Feb. 2010 to April 25th 2010 to finally put down the ciggs. I was a 2 pack day Pall Mall Red smoker (which is 1.4 mg a cig). I started out at 36 + 1 pack. On April 25th I finally quit and stuck with 36mg. Now I'm down to 6 mg or less. I'm just one of those people that need nic to function (my cognitive skills go downhill fast) and since I don't each tomatos or eggplant I don't get it from those. I don't even mind the smell because I don't crave them.

Just remember some people need time don't just give up. Oh, yeah this was my 3rd attempt at quiting when it finally took.
 

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I'm finding that I still crave the cigarettes that I'm skipping when I vape instead, but the vaping does make it quite bearable.

I've cut down from about 75% to around 60% of my normal smoking in the past few days, and it has taken me a couple of weeks to get to that point. I plan on taking it slowly, to ease any withdrawal symptoms from the multitude of chemicals in cigarettes.

In the meantime, I plan on trying some dual coil cartos for more vapor, and playing with flavors and nic strength to see what works best for me.

I'm having fun with the process, and I'm not smoking as much. That can't be a bad thing. :)
 

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I started at 36mg and stayed there for several months before reducing my nic level to 24. It may be that at 36mg you can't vape as often as you'd like and/or take long enough drags to make you feel like you're smoking. I would second the suggestion that you drop your nic level to 24mg, but 18mg may be too weak for you. I'd also recommend that you switch to V4L's Wow flavors if you haven't already. They are smoother than the other types and produce more vapor, in my opinion. I think they have a higher VG-to-PG ratio than the other liquid types that they sell.
 

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When I started vaping my anxiety went through the roof and I basically came to the conclusion that my body was craving something that was in the analogs, It was a very interesting experience as I caught a glimpse at the extent of the addiction and I noticed an anger trend and subtile suggestions (not images, im ok really) that if I broke my PV then smoking an analog would be justified. I upped my caffeine intake via coke and wild turkey to get me through.

All the best with your transition, Cheers
 

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If there is any one thing I think you can take from these forums, it's that there are many different approaches to moving away from analogs. Some find it easy to stop on Day 1; others find it takes time. The important thing is that you've decided to make that move, and your significant other shouldn't expect you to immediately stop on Day 1. If anything, have him read these forums, and he'll come to realize that it's different for everyone.

As far as those urges--do a search on Google (type something like "Quitting Smoking"), and look at those pages that show a chart, showing what changes you'll go through over the 1st day, then the first week, then the first month, etc. It's really amazing the type of damage one does to one's body over the years--and it's a hell of a motivational tool to put down the analogs once and for all.

Good luck.
 

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I mean, it HAS been several hours, so I think I'm doing pretty good..
You're doing VERY well. The problem with vaping is it's a very personal program- some quit immediately while others slowly wean themselves off analogs. In my experience the pre filled are not as good as filling your own. Continue to vape and smoke "when needed" and eventually, one day, you will find you'd rather vape than smoke. I've converted a number of friends and there's no way on earth I could told them EXACTLY how to do it. Some quit immediately while others weaned themselves off analogs. 24 are analog free today after approx 2 months while 4 still have an occasional analog. It doesn't matter because they have cut down drastically on their analog intake.
Good Luck to and remember this is not a race nor a competition...take it slow and easy and everything will work itself out, Vapoor.
remember, to avoid dehydration, drink lots of water.

In the mail today I got my kit from V4L. I got the kit with the personal charging case, a passthru, and I got an extra battery (actually ended up getting 2 extra batteries. They didn't have the lavender battery that I ordered, so instead they sent me 2 white batteries. I'm not sure how I feel about that). They also sent me 5 extra cartos (4 cappuccino and 1 apple).

Anyway, I've been puffing away since I got the kit, trying all the new flavors. I was so excited that when my husband left for work, he took the carton of cigarettes with him, leaving me none. I was fine for a while, but now I want to throw this glowing green stick across the room and light up the old fashioned way. I mean, it HAS been several hours, so I think I'm doing pretty good..

Is this normal? Do you have to wean yourself, or did most of you just quit the cancer sticks as soon as you got your e-cig in?
 

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As strange as it may seem, drinking lots of fruit juices will cut the cravings..........and it couldn't hurt to try it.......

It's funny you say that because I read the list of 4000+ chemicals in analogues, and they seemed mostly to be tasty-sounding fruit and plant oils and then a whole bunch of nasty stuff. But all those fruit oils or "toppings" as the ... companies call them were so tempting, I feel like making some ejuice with a bit of all of them, becuase they are all food grade also, except for the nasties. Maybe even a cake or something with all those fruit oils.
 

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I started vaping hoping to cut back from 2+ pad to 1 pad. so I vaped and smoked. if I wanted a cig, I vaped for a while and then if I still wanted the cig, I had it. for the difficult times (mornings, after eating, etc) the first few days I waited 10 min before I had the cig, the next few days I waited 15, etc, until soon my first cig of the day was at 1 in the afternoon. always vaping while waiting. I slowly and easily went down to 2 cigs a day. I am still there by choice, I am old and never really wanted to stop smoking completely. however if I find that I start having 3 or more cigs a day I will have to go to -0-.

I have a neighbor who stopped smoking 30 yrs ago. he told me he still craves them :(

I imagine someone already answered the OP's (Heather's) question. But I will add my 2 cents. Im on day 3 and have cut back from 1-1.5 packs a day to 5-7 cigs a day already. And it hasnt even been a struggle. I have had a few cravings but not too bad. Here are my tips:

1) Inhalation method - you cant vape like you smoked. If you are hitting your PV hard, inhaling and exhaling the same as with cigs, then you are not getting most of the Nic from your vape. Try pulling SOFTLY for 3- 5 seconds, then holding the vape in your mouth and slowly inhaling with your mouth slightly open. Or just slowly exhaling while breathing in thru your nose (french inhale). This is because the nic in vape is absorbed thru your mucus membranes and blood vessels close to the surfce in your mouth and sinues. Unlike cig smoke with gets into your lungs and is readily absorbed there.

This is due to particle size of nicotime bound to smoke vs. particle size of water vapor (vape).

2) Make sure you are hitting your vape BEFORE you are having bad cravings. I hit mine for 10 min or so every 30 min (approximately).

3) DONT try and go cold turkey! I find if I deprive myself of the thought of having a cig...my cravings get BAD!!! But if I just try to put off that cig and take a few vapes...its all good. Then I tell myself I will have a cig later. What I have found on day 3 is that my smokes dont satisfy... Im liking my vape more and more. And my cigs are turning my stomach!

4) Drink LOTS of liquid (water, juice..) if you vape a lot. Vaping dehyrates big time!

Hope all is going well.... good luck!!
 
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It took me 6 months of smoking and vaping before I finally quit. I started with a 510 kit from Volcano and while it knocked down the amount I smoked, it wasn't enough to get me to quit. Months later I got my Chuck (3.7v) and knew the juices I liked and it was very easy to transition over. It's been over 16 months now since I've had a cigarette and I'll never go back to them. I think it's all about finding the right device and liquid that work for you. For some people, the pen style PVs do it and for others it takes getting a mod. After getting my MV VV box mod, that's the way to go and I'll never buy something that is not VV for daily use (I'm sure I'll buy others just to try them). The way I see it, it's all about the cigarettes you don't smoke. If you smoke 10 less cigarettes a day because of vaping, you're making progress. Not everyone quits smoking after their first puff on an e-cig. I applaud those that do.

My roommate has been back and forth with vaping and smoking for well over a year. He started with a Volcano 510 as well, which sort of worked for him. I sold him my Chuck and he quit smoking for quite a while with it. He won't do any research and gets frustrated way too quickly (plus he's not on top of ordering attys, we have plenty of liquid here). He still uses it, but is smoking a lot more lately. His g/f, who also lives with us, is a smoker and refuses to quit or try e-cigs, which is not helping at all. I just gave him my Silver Bullet tonight because he's tired of the Chuck and has talked about wanting to buy a SB, but not wanting to spend the money on one. I'm hoping that having a PV he likes will get him to use it more.

6 months.... no that is sticking with it!! But good lesson here...take your time, find the right device and some tasty vapes! I also think you have to have SOME willpower to want to quit analogs.

As far as your roomate... do you want another roomate... Nice that you got your roomie the SB because he didnt want to spend the money on one :) :)
 

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I started vaping hoping to cut back from 2+ pad to 1 pad. so I vaped and smoked. if I wanted a cig, I vaped for a while and then if I still wanted the cig, I had it. for the difficult times (mornings, after eating, etc) the first few days I waited 10 min before I had the cig, the next few days I waited 15, etc, until soon my first cig of the day was at 1 in the afternoon. always vaping while waiting. I slowly and easily went down to 2 cigs a day. I am still there by choice, I am old and never really wanted to stop smoking completely. however if I find that I start having 3 or more cigs a day I will have to go to -0-.

I have a neighbor who stopped smoking 30 yrs ago. he told me he still craves them :(

My story, two years in this month, is nearly identical (including the "I am old" part). My original goal was pretty vague--probably not quit smoking, but decrease to a less harmful and less expensive level. At some point a few months after I started, I set a ceiling of seven cigarettes a day, which I rarely hit and I think only exceeded a couple times due to poor planning when travelling. Five to six was my usual for many months. More recently (in part thanks to higher voltage mods), I decided to go the next step: no more than four a day. Typically this means two in the early morning, one right after the other. Then none until late evening when I typically smoke two before bedtime. To my surprise, I'm starting to find that I'm sometimes skipping one or both of those nighttime cigarettes--or actually reminding myself that it's time to smoke--if I want. The two morning cigarettes I never skip. My rationale, such as it is, is equilibrium. I still love the taste of cigarettes (and, yes, the smell of smoke), and I fear that if I were to quit entirely and then get sick of or lose patienced with vaping, I'll go back to a pack and a half or more a day pdq. This works for me.

If there's a lesson there for you, I think it would be that there might be some benefit in setting routines that involve long intervals (hours) without smoking, and put no restraints on how much you vape during those intervals.

I'm amazed that some in this thread are so floored at the idea of 36mg liquids, as I've heard from quite a few here who vape 36mg from sun to sun. Good chance, though, from what you say, that it's too harsh for you, and that going down a bit--maybe to 24-ish-- would make it easier for you to vape enough to end-run your cravings. (I vaped 36mg exclusively for the better part of a year, but found that chain-vaping at that level made me feel a bit wired. I've lately cut back to about 27mg.)

Best of luck, and as the others say, let yourself feel good about whatever decrease in your smoking that you achieve. And enjoy!
 

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I'm amazed that some in this thread are so floored at the idea of 36mg liquids, as I've heard from quite a few here who vape 36mg from sun to sun. Good chance, though, from what you say, that it's too harsh for you, and that going down a bit--maybe to 24-ish-- would make it easier for you to vape enough to end-run your cravings. (I vaped 36mg exclusively for the better part of a year, but found that chain-vaping at that level made me feel a bit wired. I've lately cut back to about 27mg.)

Best of luck, and as the others say, let yourself feel good about whatever decrease in your smoking that you achieve. And enjoy!

If people bothered to read the ECF tutorial, that's actually what they recommend.
 

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It's very normal to have your cravings. It is a habit that's been with us for years, it is something we feel so used to, so it naturally has a period of adjustment. Just keep your eye on your goal and believe that you can do it. A lot of vapers cut back first on their tobacco use with e-cigs until they have gradually stopped smoking and fell in love with vaping completely.
 
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