Why does my Kayfun lite hit so hard?

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Check your coil. Sounds like it is not centered over the Air hole. should also be about 1mm off the deck.

This, i'm using the stock coil that came with my tobeco kf and it's awful. Much better to roll a new micro coil with cotton imho.

[moderated] You also Need to use a mech with these devices. Apv just doesn't heat the coil fast enough and it's a terrible experience. A whole new world when you slap it on a mech. But anyway, let me know if you want to get rid of it.

This is wrong, it really depends on your build. Why do you think an apv wouldn't heat a single coil fast enough to get a nice vape :S, i only use kayfuns now and all of them work the same in regulated devices and mechs.
 

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assuming the wick is properly saturated...

Correct, but if the wick wasn't properly saturated, I would expect the OP to have mentioned bad taste / dry hit / metallic nastiness.

Without all that, I bet he is wicking fine, just got his coil way to high off the deck, or off to one side.

BTW, I found the ToBeCo stock coil to not hit well at all, I wrapped my own standard style coil on silica and had a much better experience.
 

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ah c'mon, don;t be mad, he even went back and edited the post to put a "lol". it's rather early and we all need fresh coffee, look even the friendly moderator came to visit :) what a drag! :)

i'm curious to know what mech you use. i recently got a nemesis and one issue i have is when to know my battery is going weak. on the other hand i don;t want to hijack the thread.
happy monday people!
 

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ah c'mon, don;t be mad, he even went back and edited the post to put a "lol". it's rather early and we all need fresh coffee, look even the friendly moderator came to visit :) what a drag! :)

i'm curious to know what mech you use. i recently got a nemesis and one issue i have is when to know my battery is going weak. on the other hand i don;t want to hijack the thread.
happy monday people!

I use the Smok magneto. I can't talk about it because the forum cop is going to come after me.
 

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I use the Smok magneto. I can't talk about it because the forum cop is going to come after me.

Yeah, taking about the m4gn3t0s is actually not allowed on the forums* I blame the Provari owners, they spoiled it for the rest of us.

Relax, you're not the only one to have a post moderated. Coffee refresh is on me.

*This is not actually true.
 

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Yeah, taking about the m4gn3t0s is actually not allowed on the forums* I blame the Provari owners, they spoiled it for the rest of us.

Relax, you're not the only one to have a post moderated. Coffee refresh is on me.

*This is not actually true.

Not angry at the moderators. Tired of the know it alls, who always think they know more then anyone else and try and bring everyone else's posts down.
 

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So Glad your a big shot. Not even going to explain myself or what I was trying to say in my post, I am just going to say .... you and call it a day.

Wow, wasn't trying to attack you, just wanted to make it clear to people reading this thread that what you said (as it was typed) is 100% incorrect.

A Kayfun, and really any rebuildable for that matter, is going to be not only perfectly suited to a VV or VW, but is going to give you a GREAT vape, and the absolute most amount of customization to the vape possible, way more then a mech.

Granted there is a huge difference between quality in APV's, and the circuits they use, but that has nothing to do with what "works well on a APV", and more to do with how crappy your APV is or isn't.

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[moderated] You also Need to use a mech with these devices. Apv just doesn't heat the coil fast enough and it's a terrible experience. A whole new world when you slap it on a mech. But anyway, let me know if you want to get rid of it.

They work wonderful for me with regulators. I've used it with Evolv Kick 1, 2, and Artisan Crown V2. Even with a 2 Ohm coil at 5w it outperforms other toppers I have running much more 'amp-hungry' configurations. Most liquids I'm happier with 7 or 8 watts, but I do have a few that don't need but 5w and will cloud the room :)

Only time I have to drop the regulators is if I'm doing a quad coil set-up in my IGO-W and want more watts across all the coils than the regulator can handle. With the Crown in VV mode, I can get it up to 20W with a good hot battery (but not for more than an hour or so given my current 18500 batteries). My Kick 2 also seems to go into an unregulated mode and pass 15w for a short time if I have a sub-ohm atty on it.
 
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His approach was perhaps harsh but your statement that KFL don't work good Ina regulated PV is inaccurate and potentially misleading to noobs. Unless you wasn't to sub ohm it doesn't matter what device. And OP obviously not ready for sub ohm
 
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His approach was perhaps harsh but your statement that KFL don't work good Ina regulated PV is inaccurate and potentially misleading to noobs. Unless you wasn't to sub ohm it doesn't matter what device. And OP obviously not ready for sub ohm

For that matter, something with a DNA20 in it can even do most low/sub-ohm coils out there (I have seen a .6 ohm fire on one), with the exception of super low under .5 ohms, which really shouldn't be done anyways :vapor:
 
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Also, to eliminate the obvious, does it have airflow control? Fiddled with that..?

Yeah it has the airflow control. I'll give it a try.

Granted there is a huge difference between quality in APV's, and the circuits they use, but that has nothing to do with what "works well on a APV", and more to do with how crappy your APV is or isn't.

Off topic, but which APV's use the best cicuits? I know Provari, but who else? One of them has to be Inokin...


As for Kayfun, I'll give the methods a try. I will lower my coil down, and I will drain some of the fluid. I think I filled it all the way up and its still there. I'll lower it to 3.5ml so there is some air in there. Only thing that sucks about the Kayfun, is if you need to work on it once you have fluid in it. If you do, its all going to come out that little hole at the bottom. Or at least try to.
 

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As for Kayfun, I'll give the methods a try. I will lower my coil down, and I will drain some of the fluid. I think I filled it all the way up and its still there. I'll lower it to 3.5ml so there is some air in there. Only thing that sucks about the Kayfun, is if you need to work on it once you have fluid in it. If you do, its all going to come out that little hole at the bottom. Or at least try to.
a few tips.

holding the kayfun upside down you can pull all the fluid out with a syringe.

when first setting them up, until you get the hang of the correct setups, only put about 2 ml in them for testing. not so much inside means less you have to take out.

one of the things i do is build the coil. get the wick good and wet, put the cap on the chimney and take a few drags that way before putting the tank back on to see if the coil vapes ok.
 

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Only thing that sucks about the Kayfun, is if you need to work on it once you have fluid in it. If you do, its all going to come out that little hole at the bottom. Or at least try to.

i noticed that bellow 1.5ml, the pressure keeping the liquid in the tank is not enough to keep the liquid in at all times.
so if i let it stay overnight, in the morning i'll have excess fluid in the wick chamber. easy to remove.
also, turning it upside down for a few moments will let air into the tank, allowing the liquid to move faster too. can be a problem, but can also be used to get more juice to the wick when chain vaping.
 

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I recently got the Kayfun lite clone by "together best cooperation". Whatever that is. Anyway, this thing hits hard. Damn hard. So hard in fact, that I'm going to sell it if I can't get it to stop doing it. I vape at 0mg nicotine, so I just can't take how hard this thing hits the back of the throat. And on top of that, it hits this hard when you hardly get any vapor! What is the deal? I'm using a 1.6 ohm coil, cotton wick, a Vamo V3 with Panasonic 3400 mah batteries, and a 70pg/30VG blend with 0mg nicotine. I'm vaping all this at 8 watts. And its unbearable. I had to switch back to my protank.

What can I do? Should I have built a 3 ohm coil? Could that be what's causing this? Again I'm going to have to sell this thing if I can't figure out how to make it hit normally.

Turn your watts down ! Change e juice ? Don't do that ohm! Do a 1.2 ohm or so ?!


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Ok thanks for all the help everyone. I will try to fix it later today. I don't know if I said it before, but I'm also getting low vapor production. But no burnt taste.

Can the kayfun ever be set up to be normal? By which I mean, have zero throat hit. Is that even within its capabilities? If not, I don't think I'm really interested in trying to fix it. The throat hit is not for me. I didn't smoke that way and I don't vape that way. I understand it can be made less harsh, but I notice everyone saying "It hits hard!" and I doubt all of them are building it wrong. Some of them have to be building it right and still people are saying it. I did take the airflow adustment screw all the way out and that seemed to help. No more throat hit, and no more annoying whistle. Don't know if you're supposed to do that though.

That said, are there other bottom fed rebuildables like the kayfun that don't have this problem? The only reason I even bought the Kayfun, was because you can tip it over and it won't leak. I want to be able to take it in the car and other places without having to worry about all the juice leaking out.
 
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One other option you can try if you don't think it's wicking properly is to cover the airhole and take a drag on the drip tip. You'll effectively be pulling juice into the chamber at that point. Don't pull so hard that you flood it, it's really tough to even do on a Kayfun, but it probably could be done.

Lastly, devices like the KFL and other rebuildable tank atties are sought after in part because of the huge throat hit they deliver, combined with a fullness of flavor that clearomizer tanks generally can't reproduce.
 

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i dont know man i still think its a wicking problem, with a normal silica wick it is one of the smoother devices i have as far as TH and when i need a kick i grab a dripper. give it a few more tries, not everyone hits the perfect setup the first time.


the coil set up has to be just right, if it leaks or does not hit right it is not set up correctly, simple as that.
 
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