why does someone who never vaped before hack and cough

[Super Flex]

my wife was always a STL smoker.

My wife has been vaping let's say about 5 months (she still sneak in about 5 a day, down from 2 packs) she coughs on even a small hit from my setup( 120 watts on any of my rigs) but noooooooo she hacks and coughs like she is smoking a Marlboro full flavor she loves her kanger subox set to 17 watts and 12 mg unicorn milk, she loves it and if it stops her from smoking I love it too. She won't even consider another setup. Unlike me, she'll quit when she stops smoking, and having cravings. Now me on the other hand it's a hobby, no it's a lifestyle and will probably vape until the end.

 

[RainSong]

I think it's too bad that so many so-called beginner set-ups seem to be DL vapes these days.

Maybe so, and aesthetically I love the look of the nautilus tank. But DTL on a 0.5 coil worked amazing for me right off the bat. Finished the pack of analogs I had, just because I can't stand waste, and never looked back. I'll never be a competitive cloud chaser but I do enjoy having a decent billowing cloud. Far more satisfying than a cloud of cig smoke. And I can do it over, and over, and over again. Sitting in my favorite chair after the kids are in bed and not having to sit out on the patio getting eaten alive by mosquitoes.

 

[Bunnykiller]

VCR?

yup its advanced technology over the 8 Track

 

[mcclintock]

If you hit the DL rig as MTL, you will not like it yourself, hot and eventually burnt coils too. But that's only part. Smokers have highly irritated throats, from what I hear micro-cuts from the smoke, which liquid nicotine (which wants to condense from the vape at earliest opportunity) irritate. Further, flavors enhance the throat hit, so important later when more experienced and reducing nicotine as well. The irritation is different from smoke, coughing doesn't help. Once when transitioning I got a cold or something and couldn't vape for a day, even though I could smoke. Next day the first drag was hard to not cough on, but I realized it didn't make it worse. 50th drag was exactly the same, vs. smoking would have made me stop after awhile.

That's it ... Get her a something like a Kanger AeroTank with a replaceable 1.5 ohm coil (or close to 1.5 ohms).

Worst tank Kanger ever made (at least the mini).

 

[NealBJr]

I think the others hit the nail on the head. It has nothing to do with the nicotine. If you let them vape zero nic pure VG, they will still cough. It has to do with getting bigger particles they're not used to. Same with non smokers taking a drag off an ecig. The best thing you can do, is lower the power... WAY down. The Ego styles are usually the best bet like someone already suggested. Usually, if I want a non smoker, or never smoker to experience my vape, I turn the wattage down REAL low. Try lowering the setting on your mod to whatever will supply 2.5 volts, restrict the airflow as much as you can then slowly work up from there.

 

[Str8vision]

.............can someone explain why a life-long smoker will hack their brains out when trying a high powered mod, but when using a pen style they arent coughing their brains out. she was coughing pretty bad, and i felt bad she was experiencing that.....

After many decades of inhaling tobacco smoke (and the chemicals/particulates it contains) long term heavy smokers can develop a "smokers cough", their lungs are damaged/stressed and easily irritated. Many will go into coughing fits (prolonged uncontrollable coughing episodes) with very little provocation, heavy exertion or just taking a sudden deep breath of air can trigger such an "episode". Inhaling vapor directly into their lungs is likely out of the question, it will trigger coughing. I know this because I used to be one of "them", 40+ years of heavy smoking had taken its toll. Handing a long term heavy smoker a high powered, airy sub-ohm rig for their very first foray into the world of vaping is ill advised. Smokers inhale mouth to lung and are used to a fairly tight (restricted) draw. A tootle-puffing rig with high nic is better suited, it more closely replicates what they're accustomed to and what their stressed/damaged lungs will tolerate, it's far less likely to trigger a coughing episode.

The good news is after just a few months of being smoke free my smoker's cough disappeared completely, lung function improved significantly, I was (and still am) -amazed- by how fast this transformation occurred. After tootlepuffing for a year or so I evolved to using a moderately powered sub-ohm setup (0.45 ohms @ 45 watts) and inhaling direct to lung. I could not have started out that way, my lungs needed time to heal first. Baby steps...

 

[Cheallaigh]

fyi... no, smokers aren't MtL... they are BOTH. I am DtL, that's how I smoked, my hubby was MtL... just like with vaping. some can sub ohm, some cannot from the get go, none of it is written absolutely in stone.

 

[Bonskibon]

fyi... no, smokers aren't MtL... they are BOTH. I am DtL, that's how I smoked, my hubby was MtL... just like with vaping. some can sub ohm, some cannot from the get go, none of it is written absolutely in stone.

I tried to sub-ohm to see what it was like, but just couldn't do it. I fumbled trying to figure out how to do it and just wasn't natural for me. Smoked for 30 plus years MTL so I'm happy to stay that way.

 

[b3ndz]

Direct lung hit works fine for me. But I only smoked for 8 years at about a pack or less a day. I love the way I have taken to vaping and the hits I'm getting.

 

[skoony]

IMHO a 200 watt mod for an older long time smoker is inappropriate.
A simple (lowly?) cigalike or ego type set up with basic clearomizers
is the way to go. Of course I know there will be exceptions. When I started
in 2013 Spinners were the cats meow.
Regards
Mike

 

[NealBJr]

IMHO a 200 watt mod for an older long time smoker is inappropriate.
A simple (lowly?) cigalike or ego type set up with basic clearomizers
is the way to go. Of course I know there will be exceptions. When I started
in 2013 Spinners were the cats meow.
Regards
Mike

you mean vaping at 200 watts in innapropriate. I would say for most people, a ego/spinner type is perfect for discovering Ecigs. Most long time smokers see box mods as too bulky compared to a cigarette. I usually would ask them if they'd use something like this (and point towards my cuboid) and if they say no, I don't press or recommend it. But for the few that do, I recommend getting them a good setup to begin with... probably a one battery mod that can be charged via USB. They may have a 80 or 200 watt mod, but I don't usually recommend they start off at the high levels... I usually start them off with something like an Aspire Nautilus, or Aerotank. Just because they have a 200 watt mod, doesn't mean they'll ever get up that high. They will, however, have battery life for days and the option of going up in the future if they want to proceed further with ecigs.

 

[JeremyR]

New vapors need to take it slow with a lower powered device. It takes time to adjust to the moisture in vaping. Like a week.

I advise to start with cigar type mouth hits the first few days, then progress to mouth to short lung inhales. You may need to Maintain this for a few weeks or more before starting direct lung hits.

The problem is mostly the dense moisture.

 

[thatrandy]

Its not buring smoke, which smokers are use to, so when they inhale it they're not expecting it to be so amazingly dense ;P

Learn to master the vape clouds, you must.