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Why does the "for the children" argument work so well for politicians?

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tj99959

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    What they always seem to fail to mention!

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    And, when they do mention it, it's because of all their negative adds, and e-cigs have nothing to do with it.

    Facts:
    The 15yo that chooses to smoke or vape could care less what the legal age is.
    The 15yo could care less if e-cigs are taxed ... mom & dad are footing the bill one way or another anyway.
     
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    Rossum

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    But there's no evidence it isn't harmful either, remember we just don't know, so why would others who don't vape want to be exposed to vapor?? Answer is they don't, simple.
    Seriously? You wish to restrict something because it hasn't been PROVEN HARMLESS? On that basis, you could restrict just about anything, because it's just about impossible to prove that something is "harmless".
     

    skoony

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    Makes no difference. Fact is people don't want to be exposed to our habit and shouldn't be forced to. Simple.

    i nor know one i know is exposing anything to anybody.
    this time its their fault for their own ignorance.
    i no longer smoke and refuse to be treated like a drug addict.
    sorry that's just the way it is.
    regards
    mike
     

    sub4me

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    Seriously? You wish to restrict something because it hasn't been PROVEN HARMLESS? On that basis, you could restrict just about anything, because it's just about impossible to prove that something is "harmless".

    No, you see I'm not the one restricting things, but I respect the laws where I live and don't impose my habits on others.
     

    Jman8

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    Exactly, non of your whole argument matters because it will all be decided for us, like it or not we have no choice because we live in a civilized society thats governed by laws.

    I will vape in places where it is prohibited. Just like you may drive above the speed limit even while that it is prohibited (and is part of basis for my saying I don't believe you abide by all laws). In places where I vape and know that it is prohibited, it'll be the rule of "don't get caught." Very challenging to catch a lone vaper who knows where they can (easily) get away with vaping in an establishment. I've posted on ECF that vaping in hospitals is easy, and IMO, is the easiest of places to vape indoors where it is likely prohibited.

    Hence, some laws are meant to be broken. They just are. This is commonly found in the fact that we have many laws that prohibit minors from using thus and so, and yet many statistics measuring the amount of minors today that use thus and so. Those laws are meant to be broken and as I care very profoundly about such issues, I rejoice knowing they are being broken. That makes sense to me. Not breaking certain laws, especially the ones where harm is not so obvious to others, wouldn't make sense. That is the type of law that strikes me as made because fear mongering was at one point at work around construction of the policy, and then later (or today) isn't being undone cause society has moved onto latest new drama that is suddenly biggest deal of the day. Also strikes me that it likely still exists so we (political types) can readily identify who are the sheep and who are the resistors as we go about garnering votes and determining who is with us, and who is against us.
     

    sub4me

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    You know maybe you zealot types wouldn't mind your babysitters blowing clouds while they watch your infants. You know cause you consider it harmless.

    Or maybe the surgeon walking around the hospital exhaling huge clouds of vanilla as he visits the sick. You know cause its probably mostly harmless (says some study found on the internet.

    Or maybe teachers in classrooms vaping away as they teach.

    Or maybe your waitress blowing a cloud at you as you order food.
     
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