Why I still smoke.

[Racehorse]

Wife got me a cigalike kit and within a week no more cigs

When I joined here there were MANY people before me who quit smoking using Blu, or worse. They had been on this forum for 3-4 years already, and were using stuff that needed to be charged every 2 hours, or less. Not to mention there were hardly even any variable voltage batts out yet.......the Ego Twist was just hitting the shelves when I started vaping and was heralded as a "game changer." People were quitting on 3.3v egos. And worse.

I don't think all of them had an easy time of it, although I would never beat up on anybody struggling, because it may take high nic, or a certain mod, or WTA, or even not vaping and using SNUS......for some people.

It is a transition, a big one, and we had to make a MAJOR LIFESTYLE CHANGE to quit smoking.

sort of like when I took up my daily walking program. Yeah, walking in cold. Sleet. Rain. 100 degrees. My doctor warned me ahead of time: "you can and will find many many excuses not to walk .....just ignore yourself, put on whatever you need to put on to get out there and then walk!"

Sometimes, as I'm getting dressed, I'm mumbling to myself that i don't want to go out as it is cold, .....but I just keep getting dressed until I am out the door.

 

[Racehorse]

Point taken well here's a pic of the eleaf basic and you can se why i say its indestructible. Its a aluminum housing that even covers the tank. Idk how you could break it without a hammer and for 20$ who cares if you do.

wow, looks like they just "copied" the joyetech eGrip.

 

[skiball]

wow, looks like they just "copied" the joyetech eGrip.

Ya basically but for less$ and does tc coils

 

[TruSound]

Quit trying to quit...... That's how I quit smoking, after supporting Phillip Morris for 40 years.

Here's what I did..

Started vaping..... Note I dod not even try to stop smoking. Then one day about 6 months later.... I realized I hadn't had a cigarette in about a month. Sooo.. I Lit one of the wife's. Guess what it tasted horrible. So, 1 year later I only vape, now. The "habit" IMO has not changed.. I just don't smoke anymore.

I had the same experience one year in, I was hanging out with a friend when he lit a cig...I asked to take a drag and wow, extremely nasty...I still don't know how the heck I smoked these things for so many years, so foul.

Like I said earlier, if you don't stop smoking cigs with the Vape hardware available today then you really don't want to quit...there's just no excuses that'll work anymore, 4 years ago when I started there was, I spent so much time on maintenance it was ridiculous, I could have given it up very easily, today there's NO excuses....period.

 

[Racehorse]

if you don't stop smoking cigs with the Vape hardware available today then you really don't want to quit...there's just no excuses that'll work anymore, 4 years ago when I started there was, I spent so much time on maintenance it was ridiculous, I could have given it up very easily, today there's NO excuses....period.

And THAT is why, precisely, that I recommended getting the Allen Carr book.

Because so many people seem to not be aware that just "buying stuff" in the way of hardware or ejuice (and which is the most commonly recommended method to solve just about "any" problem) isn't always THE ANSWER.

There is can be an "underlying" psychological or emotional intent that keeps people from success in changing life habits.

Look Inward.

We live in a society that has "affluenza" where consumers have been encouraged to just keep buying stuff, but it hasn't solved all their problems, as a matter of fact, there is deep unhappiness in the most affluent societies.

And so, I disagree with you. There ARE excuses.

One thing that we know, or you know if you read a lot about brain and also about successful people: there has to be clear intent. And that intent "can" be sabbotaged, by the mind, there could be some underlying fear, or maybe there is a huge part of person who doesn't really WANT to quit, or there may be something in their brain chemistry that is not in yours (i.e., some people DO require WTA, or even therapy, to change major lifestyle habits.)

Quitting smoking is NOT the same for everyone.

I meet a lot of people all the time who are not successful in the ways they want to be, yet they *say* they want X, Y or Z, and yet........they don't. There is some part of themselves that don't want what they say they want. It's a complex issue.

And only that person can solve it by looking inward.

Buying more stuff, better stuff, it won't help. It is not the answer, yet it always seems to be the answer on forums as well as in life in general.

It was funny, I had 2 copies of the Allen Carr book for sale 2 years ago......for a lousy $5......and not one sold. But clearos, cartos, and ejuice that cost $25 - $100 were selling like hotcakes.

I'm not saying that is the answer. I'm saying it's a TOOL. Just like a battery, or a coil, or the right ejuice.

 

[TruSound]

And THAT is why, precisely, that I recommended getting the Allen Carr book.

Because so many people seem to not be aware that just "buying stuff" in the way of hardware or ejuice (and which is the most commonly recommended method to solve just about "any" problem) isn't always THE ANSWER.

There is can be an "underlying" psychological or emotional intent that keeps people from success in changing life habits.

Look Inward.

We live in a society that has "affluenza" where consumers have been encouraged to just keep buying stuff, but it hasn't solved all their problems, as a matter of fact, there is deep unhappiness in the most affluent societies.

And so, I disagree with you. There ARE excuses.

One thing that we know, or you know if you read a lot about brain and also about successful people: there has to be clear intent. And that intent "can" be sabbotaged, by the mind, there could be some underlying fear, or maybe there is a huge part of person who doesn't really WANT to quit, or there may be something in their brain chemistry that is not in yours (i.e., some people DO require WTA, or even therapy, to change major lifestyle habits.)

Quitting smoking is NOT the same for everyone.

I meet a lot of people all the time who are not successful in the ways they want to be, yet they *say* they want X, Y or Z, and yet........they don't. There is some part of themselves that don't want what they say they want. It's a complex issue.

And only that person can solve it by looking inward.

Buying more stuff, better stuff, it won't help. It is not the answer, yet it always seems to be the answer on forums as well as in life in general.

It was funny, I had 2 copies of the Allen Carr book for sale 2 years ago......for a lousy $5......and not one sold. But clearos, cartos, and ejuice that cost $25 - $100 were selling like hotcakes.

I'm not saying that is the answer. I'm saying it's a TOOL. Just like a battery, or a coil, or the right ejuice.

I appreciate your insight but I'm going to stick with my take on this subject, a reasonably good device with a high strength juice and there just isn't any reason to smoke a cigarette IMO.

The cost of cigarettes vs ecigs alone seems like it would be enough incentive for everyone to quit.

 

[KayP]

Hi and welcome Joe79 to ECF. Sorry in advance, but allow me to rant.

You have made a lot of valid points, points which were also considered by others who looked to vaping as an aid in quitting cigarettes. As a fellow new vaper, I already understand the inconvenience of this hobby. Yes, a hobby. Even cigarettes are a hobby. The most prominent inconvenience of any hobby, including vaping, comes in the form of devoting time and money. Some may argue that vaping is cheaper than smoking, especially in the long run. As for time, it is mandatory to learn about the gadgets, e-liquids and techniques which will allow one to achieve that satisfactory and sweet vape. Regretfully it is far more convenient to buy a pack or carton of cigarettes and a lighter, and far easier to 'convince' oneself one is satisfied.

I live in Australia, and the laws are even more restrictive here than in the States. It is illegal for anyone, including shops, to sell liquids which contain nicotine in them. That does not mean there are no shops here that advertise electronic cigarettes; however, these shops also sell cigarettes... To make matters worse I know of no one here who can help me with my vaping woes, let alone anyone I could just have discussions with. I had to devote a lot of time into online forums and Youtube, and I still continue to do so. I had to source all of my liquids from overseas and due to the shocking Aussie dollar and shipping costs, it has been quite expensive; however, I was lucky to find Aussie based online shops which sell the hardware, but again the Aussie dollar is driving their prices up too. Suffice to say, I had to fork out a lot of dough at once. Despite all of my personal issues, I choose to believe that vaping will not only save me on money (when compared to the $4650 I wasted last year towards my nasty habit), but also give me back years to my life.

I am no expert; however, there are many here who know a lot and are willing to sacrifice their own time towards helping others. Stay a while and listen, the resources are available and you just need to find the materials to help you quit. Don't worry too much about the reasoning, you already know what they are. And knowing will not change anything. Sorry for my rant and peace out.

 

[Racehorse]

I appreciate your insight but I'm going to stick with my take on this subject, a reasonably good device with a high strength juice and there just isn't any reason to smoke a cigarette IMO.

And I can counter that with there is no reason for anyone to be overweight when there is good healthy food available and there just isn't any reason to eat high calorie empty calorie junk food. And there are plenty of gyms or pools to join in every town, and if not, walking or other exercise programs are free and almost anyone can do them.

Yet, people struggle with their weight.

Everything is HARD. Everything is EASY. It's perspective.

The cost of cigarettes vs ecigs alone seems like it would be enough incentive for everyone to quit.

Incentive is not the same for everyone. Not everyone is MOTIVATED by the same things as you are.

It's self talk, patterns, deeply held belief systems, fear, , lack of tools to address anxiety, cravings, stress......biology, not to mention psychology......so very many things that make people fall off the wagon of their commitment to even their stated goals.

I'm glad it was easy for you.

If it were simply a matter of buying the right mod and delivery device, then nobody would be smoking anymore.

 

[TruSound]

And I can counter that with there is no reason for anyone to be overweight when there is good healthy food available and there just isn't any reason to eat high calorie empty calorie junk food. And there are plenty of gyms or pools to join in every town, and if not, walking or other exercise programs are free and almost anyone can do them.

Yet, people struggle with their weight.

Everything is HARD. Everything is EASY. It's perspective.



Incentive is not the same for everyone. Not everyone is MOTIVATED by the same things as you are.

It's self talk, patterns, deeply held belief systems, fear, , lack of tools to address anxiety, cravings, stress......biology, not to mention psychology......so very many things that make people fall off the wagon of their commitment to even their stated goals.

I'm glad it was easy for you.

If it were simply a matter of buying the right mod and delivery device, then nobody would be smoking anymore.

It was easy for me despite the horrible devices I started with, guess I was just ready to give them up...definitely not as easy as I make it sound.

 

[seahawkin]

You could go with a Provape Radius and Kabuki tank. It has a P3 connection that is a lot stronger than a 510.

Ya I was thinking the same thing or a metal cage for the nautilus (ASPIRE NAUTILUS REPLACEMENT METAL TANK). But the P3 connection would be better.

 

[Ablonz]

@Joe79 Hello and Welcome to the forums!!!I have and Innokin MVP with an kangertech Emow tank with 24 mg Unflavored that's been trucking along fine with plenty of battle wounds and such being drop countless times. I was a dual user as well. The more I vaped, the less I smoked. 3 and a half months later I quit smoking a 28 year 1.5 pk + a day habit as they kept getting worse tasting as the days went by. If and when my MVP gives out, I would not hesitate to get another Innokin product as they are very durable devices. I am in construction and it gets beat up quite regularly. My dad on the other hand smoked for 57 years @ 2.5+ pack a day and down to less than 1 a day with out even trying to quit. Do both if you want to. The more you vape, the less you smoke and reduce consumption of smokes. It is the one that you don't smoke that count. The day will come when you are ready for the transition completely if you want it to. Hope this helps.

 

[Tufur]

Joe79, read this thread again and again. Someday the door will open in your perception and you will grow.

 

[KayP]

It is unfortunate, but I have noticed some people open up threads and then disappear

 

[Tufur]

It is unfortunate, but I have noticed some people open up threads and then disappear

That is rude....but the post posts are golden to run up the required anti-bot quota. hehehe

 

[retired1]

That is rude....but the post posts are golden to run up the required anti-bot quota. hehehe

No such thing now.

 

[David Wolf]

It is unfortunate, but I have noticed some people open up threads and then disappear

Haha you noticed that too? I might start a new thread on dikatone and then run away

 

[ExNihil0]

Heatwave's Invader mini mod is pretty durable, to say the least...

 

[batteredwombat]

I appreciate your insight but I'm going to stick with my take on this subject, a reasonably good device with a high strength juice and there just isn't any reason to smoke a cigarette IMO.

The cost of cigarettes vs ecigs alone seems like it would be enough incentive for everyone to quit.

Especially when you diy juice. For me its about 6 dollars a month in juice cost and wire is cheap. Only drawback in cost is i get frisky when a new tank or dripper comes out, but with saving 7 dollars a day I still come out way ahead.