Why I'm Still Using A Vision Spinner Over MOD / APVs
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Why is that? I mean my wife vapes with her Spinner and I know she would not use a mod / apv at all. She likes her CE5s and the size of the spinner 600mAh is perfect for her.
Lol, don't forget the dodgy buttons!
I've been looking around for the last week or so trying to make the same choice as you. As someone else commented on, I have so far come up with the Tesla.
Yesterday I was thinking about the innokin SVD until I kept finding complaints about the buttons not working or falling off.
For me the hole point of being able to replace battery's is to increase the life span of the device, without it failing in other areas just as quickly. Unfortunately they do all have a compromise somewhere but I'm sure I will be blown away once I'm holding/using one.
Seems I'm very fussy too, I'm still undecided on the Tesla, just now I'm thinking might as well buy the itaste v3 so I have a new shiny toy to play with and get used to vv vw. Yes it will end up in the bin but if I rotate with my 2 evods it should help it last longer and I have time to find what I'm looking for.
I've been looking around for the last week or so trying to make the same choice as you. As someone else commented on, I have so far come up with the Tesla.
Yesterday I was thinking about the innokin SVD until I kept finding complaints about the buttons not working or falling off.
For me the hole point of being able to replace battery's is to increase the life span of the device, without it failing in other areas just as quickly. Unfortunately they do all have a compromise somewhere but I'm sure I will be blown away once I'm holding/using one.
Seems I'm very fussy too, I'm still undecided on the Tesla, just now I'm thinking might as well buy the itaste v3 so I have a new shiny toy to play with and get used to vv vw. Yes it will end up in the bin but if I rotate with my 2 evods it should help it last longer and I have time to find what I'm looking for.
Yeah, it sucks for people like us who want our cake and eat it to. I guess my biggest issue is that it isn't like I'm asking for something crazy. Now if I was ...... that I couldn't get a DNA20 Mod for under $100.00 then I would get it, I'd be crazy... but I just want the damn thing to work, work well, not fall apart and have the mainstream stuff I'm into lol
As others have said, I think the mvp2 might be the ticket. It doesn't meet all of your requirements but it comes close at a very reasonable price. I have one and love it. The build quality is good, it's durable, it works well with just about any tank or carto you would want to use it with, it has an ohm checker and short circuit protection which is important to me because I rebuild the coils on my protanks and with the 2600 mah battery I only need to charge it every other day or so and I vape a lot. As far as the internal batteries are concerned it doesn't bother me. Yes, at some point they will stop holding a charge but I feel that if the mvp2 gives me a year of performance l will have got my money's worth. The device also has overcharge protection. I like it a lot. I hope you find the mod of your dreams!
yea ur pretty picky for someone that settles on using a spinner when there's so many worthy choices out there... a lot of us are not necessarily vaping the perfect vape, but the chase makes it all the more worthwhile.
And I totally get that for the ones that want to chase the perfect vape. For me, I'm still new and don't need every last MOD / APV / RBA / RDA / Clearo / Carto / Tank on the market. I am and will never be one of those people that complain about the cost of vape as I have saved a ton of cash from analogs.
I make sure what I spend my money on is the best choice for me and that's what I want to do here. When I first made the switch to ecigs I didn't buy the cheapest out there but instead made sure I felt really good about it to get the job done and it did. Then when I made the switch from my 808D I spent the money on what I knew would be good and would do the job and it did.
The issue is now I'm ready for another jump and that's to RBAs and I need a better setup for that... this is where what I want isn't there. So I hit a wall in other words. I am not and did not mean for this thread to be a "Vision Spinners" are the greatest thing out there and everything else sucks because that's not the truth and not what I believe.
I want to trade up but can't find what I want and am not the type of person to drop the cash on something that isn't what I want or for something that will not do the job.
Thanks for the help.
You are probably the umteenth person in just the last 2 months to ask for the same features in an APV, only to be disappointed and then have to settle for something they didn't really want in the beginning... If you are wanting to get into RBA/RDA's then your main option would be a mechanical APV... Rebuildable's weren't designed for a VV/VW device. They were designed to be used on a mechanical device... As for protection in a mechanical, it comes in the form of a hot spring and, (this is one of the most important parts), an IMR safer chemistry battery. It was also suggested by someone already, for added protection, add a Kick 2 to the equation. It will not only add protection but also turn your mechanical into a regulated device.
Just my opinion, but if a vision spinner was the only vaping device on the market, I think I would've went back to analogs already... Worthless device, IMO!!!
Just my opinion, but if a vision spinner was the only vaping device on the market, I think I would've went back to analogs already... Worthless device, IMO!!!
Ha! This is interesting. Why do you hate Spinners?
I ask this as I sit here puffing away on a 0.5 ohm IGO-W on a mech. My Spinner will never match this vape, but it works well for what it is... a VV Ego.
I know this is out in left field but something small that works well and will hold up to abuse makes me think mechanical mod with a kick, just something to throw in the mix.
What is really annoying is that they still use a threading system at all. A spring loaded locking mechanism would work far better. Push down, twist, lift, locked. This would also open things up for square tanks, polygonal tanks, etc. Threading is so outdated.
Sent from my Astromech in a galaxy far, far away. The force is with me. so is Mr. chicken.
I love my spinner its my out n about device.. as for the at home mod I love my SVD works great, solid built. If size is the concern then use it with 18350 battery I use it with 18650 its like 1.5" bigger then the 1300 spinner
Some of these newbs would never have lasted back in 2009 - 2010.
It's interesting isn't it. I had 2 Provaris. I was sure I didn't like it, then a year later I thought maybe I was missing something so I got another one. I noticed that I am using 2.4-2.5ohm delivery devices on top, and then noted that I am usually setting it to 3.7-3.8v.
That means that a big mod is sort of "wasted" on me. I am truly a low voltage vaper.
My favorite battery is this little 2-something inch joyetech upgrade battery that is not VV but that you can set to 2 different modes, I like the 4.1v setting, and it goes down from there as the battery depletes. I could have about 10-15 of them in a pile an be happy. The first hour of vaping on one of those is just perfect for me.
BUT, I like box shaped stuff, and bottom feeders, since they don't roll......so I got a REO. I put 1.7ohm on there and can vape away at about 7-8 watts if I want. But usually that is way too strong for me, so I would go down to about 5 watts with a higher ohm delivery device.
These are things you just do not know about yourself when you start vaping, and which is WHY I always recommend to any new vaper to just get an ego twist or vision spinner, because you are going to find your "sweet spot" using that cheap simple VV device.
And you may find that you don't even NEED VV, or don't even NEED high wattage vaping, so why would you want to pay almost $200 or even $50+ for that?
And I would say this is definitely true for vapers who vape fruity delicate stuff. No way you are going to be vaping fruits at 8-10 watts LOL
Of course when advising a newbie, they don't know what they like to vape yet, so you can't figure that out yet.
Of course, tobacco vapers and heavy desserts are gonna require a higher watt vape, they just taste better that way usually.
And, a Spinner or Twist is never going to be wasted $. Why? Because they will either become your "backups" if you end up moving on to a mod, or, you will give them to a friend or family member to get them started vaping. And they're only gonna cost you $25 each or less.
I just think it is really jumping to conclusions that everyone is going to want a mod or vape strong. I jsut gave my optometrist an NON VV ego, and a crappy CE4 to get started that I had laying around........guess what? She has quit stinkies on them, I asked her if she wants to explore better stuff.....nope, she LOVES her setup.
Total cost would have been about $40-50 with clearos, battery and juice if she had bought this stuff.Note: I have been vaping 1.5 years.
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Good luck. The fire switch in my Tesla lasted four months. 100% non repairable. For what a Tesla costs you could buy at least two Vamos that perform even better. At least the PWM on a VAMO is filtered. On the Tesla it's the same 33 Hz PWM experience you will find on the cheapest VV device. You pay a lot for form with a Tesla and may find the function sucks.
There's no reason you can't find a good RBA for an EGO battery.
1. They don't have to be massive three post things to be a good platform.
2. They don't have to run sub-ohm to produce a quality flavor with rich vapor.
3. It's not a must to build up crazy 2, 3, and 4 coils rigs to enjoy a quality RBA setup.
The low cost Fahrenheit RBA comes to mind right off the bat. It even comes with a form fitting EGO beauty ring as an option.
There's also the Squid.
I'm sure there are plenty more. IGO, Bully, etc...are bound to have multiple models to choose from.
The trick is a 'balanced' set-up, where air, wick, and heat are tuned to your needs/tastes.
Yes...you CAN build a really fine single coil RBA from 1.7 - 3 Ohms that'll work just dandy on those Twists.
1. They don't have to be massive three post things to be a good platform.
2. They don't have to run sub-ohm to produce a quality flavor with rich vapor.
3. It's not a must to build up crazy 2, 3, and 4 coils rigs to enjoy a quality RBA setup.
The low cost Fahrenheit RBA comes to mind right off the bat. It even comes with a form fitting EGO beauty ring as an option.
There's also the Squid.
I'm sure there are plenty more. IGO, Bully, etc...are bound to have multiple models to choose from.
The trick is a 'balanced' set-up, where air, wick, and heat are tuned to your needs/tastes.
Yes...you CAN build a really fine single coil RBA from 1.7 - 3 Ohms that'll work just dandy on those Twists.
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No. My setups have included a KR808-D style "cig-a-like" and Vision Spinners. I do enjoy and adjust the spinner as juice level goes down, starting points are different for different juices / toppers so I think I'm a vv type of vaper. The vw comes into play because I do like to use different toppers and they all have different ohms so I think having a vw device is important as well since I want to add RBAs to the mix as well.
I know it "can" be done but was recommended by vapers I know and this forum to not do it on a ego style battery. I mean, yes a 1.8 ohm topper is a 1.8 ohm topper but my understanding is the batteries don't really produce a constant output as a MOD / APV can and if something shorts you run a greater risk of killing your battery.
I could be way off but that's the advice I was given when my original post in the RBA Section was "could I" with my spinners.
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