Why is a Reo less hassle?

[biggerintx]

I've been lurking on the Reo forum because I keep reading how the Reo is the mod that provides the least hassle. I'm interested in easy and hassle free.

I'm using ego Twist 1000mAh with Vivi Nova STV and iClear30 clearos right now. So I'm used to regulated voltage, filling the tank, tweaking the voltage to taste, and go. Charge the batteries, wash the tank between flavors, and not much else. I have a couple atomizers that I use to taste flavors and while the flavor is good they leak so I don't use them a lot. I have some mega eGo cartos that I use when I want a more pocket friendly vape and they seem OK, though less convenient than the clearos.

How does a Reo provide less hassle?

Also, I was thinking that a good Reo newbie route would be a Reo Grand with a bottom feeder atty like a 1.5 Ohm Vapage or HH.357. I'd like to try RBA eventually buy I'd rather learn the Reo get comfortable and then learn RBA. Or should I consider some other initial setup?

I am worried about dealing with the voltage drop across an unregulated mod producing a wildly varying vape. I see so many posting of good experiences with the unregulated mods but it doesn't make sense to me - the "sweet spot" for a particular head is not 0.8 volts wide. With a 1.5 Ohm atty that is 4.2V @ 11.8 W to 3.4V @7.7W through an unregulated battery discharge. I feel that I must be missing something.

Is it hard to change flavors? If I had a second bottle and a second atty and wanted to switch is it just swap bottle and atty?


Anyway I'm trying to decide if a Reo is right for me. There is more knowledge in this forum than I can every expect to find on the subject so if y'all can provide some input that would be much appreciated.

 

[Commie]

The voltage drop is a very subjective thing. Some people swear by regulated mods cause they can taste a .2v change. I can't tell a full 4.2 battery from a dead 3.5. I tried Vamo and still can't tell the difference in voltage.

How is Reo less hassle? Larger bottle capacity, bottle can be reloaded easier than most tanks, atomizer is separate from your juice, so can be replaced easily. That last point was important to me, cause in carto tanks and clearos the constant heating up and cooling off seemed to change the taste of my juice. To the point where second half-tank I couldn't vape. Like I said, subjective.
Most importantly, Reo is reliable. With an EGo, I had to take two of them to work, just in case something went wrong. With Reo, I don't.


As far as preferred setup for a bottom feeder newbie, I would recommend cartomizers instead of atties. A lot of people will disagree, but in the beginning, I would forget to feed it very often. And dry hits from atomizers taste horrible. Besides, if you feed your carto often and in small portions, you get juice directly onto the coils, and it tastes much better than, say, a carto tank.

So, if I were you, I'd try to decide on how much you like your variable voltage. A lot of people here swear by the VV Reo. If you can taste the difference, it may be worth it to you

 

[unsure]

Is it hard to change flavors? If I had a second bottle and a second atty and wanted to switch is it just swap bottle and atty?

Yep. You may have residue from the last juice in the feed tube which you can blowout or rinse but I don't bother because the new juice will override it after a couple of hits.

If your really that concerned with voltage drop then the VV Grand is what your looking for.

 

[Norman Clature]

Yeah, what Commie said.

Seems like you have it pretty hassle free right now but I have 7 or so 6ml bottles and can change/switch flavors real quick without any cleaning involved.

I have 2 "all mechanical" REOs which can be washed with hot water and soap under the faucet on my sink.

So basically; I think the point you are sort of edging up against is can you live without VV? You can get a VV REO, but there is only a very slight learning curve to building your own coil/wick setups and using one of the many RBAs available. If I can do it; anyone can.

I do put up with a bit of variance in my builds. I think I have one right now around .91ohms and one that's about 1.14ohms.

If you do end up getting a REO I think whether you get a "standard" or "VV" is probably going to be a matter of personal preference. I have 2 "standard" Grands.

Either way; aren't you going to get into building your own coil/wicks sooner or later? HA!

Norman

 

[Commie]

Just to mention, VV Grand makes it more difficult to switch flavors compared to mechanical ones. You can still wash it, but then you have to dry it over a long period of time. The mechanic ones I just shake off and wipe on my t-shirt after they take a bath.

They seriously need to be renamed to AK-47. Fires full of mud, can be rinsed out, 10 seconds and no tools to take apart mostly, 2 minutes and a screwdriver to take apart fully.

 

[garyinco]

Adding to what others have said...

- It's all self contained. No bottles of juice to carry around. I've never found a tank or clearo that didn't start leaking.
- Tube mods with tanks are too hard to transport (length and shape).
- The Reos stand up on their own, solidly.
- The batteries last at least all day. I use Grands w/ 18650 batteries.
- They are built like tanks. The mechanical ones are just too easy to wash and overhaul (if ever needed).
- No flaky electronics (in the mechanical models).
- No continuous refilling of atomizers/cartos, just an occasional press on the bottle and you're back to optimal. Have you ever been driving somewhere and need to refill? More dangerous than texting-and-driving... With a Reo just a quick squonk and you're back to perfection. Your eyes never leave the road.
- Customer service. Rob is always around. Happy to help. Shipping is quick. And $2.00. So if you need something small, shipping isn't more than the item!

Personally, I don't notice any voltage drop. It vapes great, and when it drops off it is sudden. Time to pop in a new battery, which takes less than 10 seconds.

Switching flavors is more work, IMO. If you are switching for an extended period of time. But if you just want to switch for a little bit you can use the reo like any other PV and drip into your atomizer, or even better - drip into the catch cup.

I have a bunch of mods. I hardly ever use any of them. Three are VV. And when I do use the VV's I rarely change the voltage. My Darwin is nice for it's tiny size when doing something like backpacking.

You just have to try one. You'll never go back.

 

[biggerintx]

With the long Twist and a Vivi Nova I understand longer is harder to transport. I end up taking the tank off the battery and put them in a large eGo case which goes in my bag with my files and laptop. One the other hand I don't see how I wouldn't have to do something with the Reo too. I've got a possibly wet drip cup, or an RBA and from what I've seen those aren't pocket friendly either.

How durable is the 510 connection? No matter how durable the body is if you snap/bend the atty or carto on top then my guess is the unit is still messed-up. I also understand the same thing would probably just out right break a Twist/Nova, but they are quite inexpensive by comparison.

A 3.5ml tank doesn't require constant filling maybe that is an old school carto thing. The 1000mAh Twist battery lasts all day so those aren't really advantages - but are good points - I definitely don't want to spend $250+ dollars on a mod setup (mod, parts, batteries, charger, attys/cartos, shipping, etc.) and end up with something less convenient. LOL

On switching flavors, what does washing the unit have to do with switching flavors? Is that in the event of an unfortunate juice accident?

 

[unsure]

On switching flavors, what does washing the unit have to do with switching flavors? Is that in the event of an unfortunate juice accident?

As far as my post...you can switch the atty and bottle but the connector and feed tube can have a tiny lingering amount of juice from the previous bottle but cleaning it will remove it. Im not particular enough to let first couple of hits bother me if the previous juice is detected. Some juices are really strong like a menthol or in my case Lava juice. In either case a tube mod or bottomfeeder may have the smell for a long time. lol

EDIT: Just buy one! Worst case senerio and you don't like it (never happen) have you ever seen one in good shape last more than a day in the classys!

 

[garyinco]

I never have a wet drip cup, might just be my method of use though. I don't change flavors often. The RBA's are as pocket friendly as any atomizer you will find. Unless, of course, you are grossly overfilling one.

The 510 connection on my Reos are more durable than any of my other mods. It'd be hard to imagine how I'd screw that up. But I guess if you were to beat on an atty with a hammer you might do it.

I used eGos for a long time (with one of the cases you mentioned) and was happy. Had a spare battery, just in case, and bottles of juice and carried a spare atty/carto. Its a good setup. But one day I just got tired of lugging stuff around. I guess maybe it was the time of year (late spring, so no more jacket pockets to utilize). These days I just have a capped carto in both my office and vehicles, just in case of a problem with the RBA's.

Which reminds me... the RBA's are certainly not less of a hassle. I love 'em; but making coils, mounting them, threading wicks, testing for shorts, etc is a hassle to me. I can't see myself doing it for an extended period. I'm still searching for an RBA that will let me do those things, but give me a low hassle alternative when I want it. The "Dripper Spiral" might be an improvement in that area. I'm not dragging a magnifier, a spool of wire, wick material, screwdrivers and wrenches with me when I go work/travel/play.

Good luck with whatever you decide. Sounds like you have a decent system working. Unless you have a hole burning in your pocket you might want to wait and see what Reosmods, or someone else, has coming out in the next few months.

 

[harley05]

Having all that said, put aside your fears, fellow vape traveler! And ask yourself those really important questions: Which one?? What color? Which RBA? I do not want to seem presumtuous, but every one of us has been there. I'm saying this as a fellow vaper. If you vape, you have to have a Reo!!! JMHO. Ask any questions no matter how small. I'm Ed!

 

[Commie]

One the other hand I don't see how I wouldn't have to do something with the Reo too. I've got a possibly wet drip cup, or an RBA and from what I've seen those aren't pocket friendly either.

How durable is the 510 connection? No matter how durable the body is if you snap/bend the atty or carto on top then my guess is the unit is still messed-up. I also understand the same thing would probably just out right break a Twist/Nova, but they are quite inexpensive by comparison.

Blasphemer! There's no leaking! Really. I can go running around with my kids, or go biking, with a reo bouncing around in my pants pockets. No leaks. The drip cup only gets slightly wet if I'm priming a carto with it (i.e. forcing about 1ml of juice into a brand new carto). As far as leaky RBA, I've only extensively used several A7's, and they don't leak. Maybe it's the way I make my wicks, but you can shake them upside down, and they're still fine.

The connection is pretty durable, though I'm sure with enough attempts, it can be broken. I've dropped my Reo on concrete floor once. It landed drip tip down, shattered the drip tip, but no problems besides that. So the connection took the impact.

The center (positive) part of the connection can be replaced pretty easily, too

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

Welcome, biggerintx
To answer your connection concern...it is pressed in there...there is no amount of dropping that will dislodge it. However, one can crush the insulator ring or gasket and that would need to be replaced, though with the new gasket design that's being used it's becoming a rare issue anymore. That is a repair that can be done by the user or sent in to Reosmods. Either way, it is a small thing.

 

[Commie]

Welcome, biggerintx
To answer your connection concern...it is pressed in there...there is no amount of dropping that will dislodge it. However, one can crush the insulator ring or gasket and that would need to be replaced, though with the new gasket design that's being used it's becoming a rare issue anymore. That is a repair that can be done by the user or sent in to Reosmods. Either way, it is a small thing.

I have to quote the 13th Warrior (or Eaters of the Dead if you prefer the original): "It's a small matter"

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

I have to quote the 13th Warrior (or Eaters of the Dead if you prefer the original): "It's a small matter"

Do you have a thing....a thing of them?



Lo there do I see my father
Lo there do I see my mother, and my sisters, and my brothers
Lo there do I see the line of my people back to the beginning
Lo they do call to me
They bid me take my place among them
In the halls of Valhalla
Where the brave
May Live
Forever

One of my favorite movies.

Sorry for the OT post.

 

[RiverNut]

I'm new to bottom feeders and am really liking them (surprisingly). But I would say that these setups are not more convenient than what you have and if convenience is your only priority then stick with what you have. If however you become interested in more control over your vaping experience and thus better all around vapor then the REO is one to get. There's nothing convenient about wrapping your own coil but you'll find the best vape for your tastes that way. From my experience (and I hate saying this with all of the silica tanks I own), bottom feed juice delivery gives the best flavor that I've had.
Again, If you are satisfied with the vape you are currently getting from your setup, stick with it. If you are not, the REO with any of the bottom feed attys deliver some of the best vapor out there.

 

[Commie]

One of my favorite movies.

Sorry for the OT post.

Now keep your teeth together and get back to topic

 

[biggerintx]

Sorry if some of these questions seem dumb to Reo users. I've never even seen a Reo or any kind of bottom feeder. Everyone I've met has an eGo, Vamo, or Provari. I don't know anyone with a mechanical mod either.

 

[XeniaMike]

Coming from cartos only, carto/tank combinations and cigalikes, I can honestly say it's less hassle. The #2 slot in my mod choice (after both my REOs) is my Provari with tanks.

The biggest advantage to me is this: juice in a tank is subjected to heat over and over again every time the carto is fired, and before you finish the tank the taste changes and not for the better. The juice in the REO is kept separate from the heat source and stays great. If I want to change flavors, I can dump the juice back in its original bottle without worrying about ruining the whole thing. Took me about a week to learn 'squonking' but once you do, it's all good!

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

No need to apologize. Most of us had no idea what these were until we got one. If you are in TX, there are quite a few who have them there and sometimes they get together at local meets. Might be worth a look if you are close to functions like these.

 

[Big Hitter]

I wouldn't say the REO is less hassle if you just sitting and vaping ......

If you out and about with a mod in your pocket the REO is not going to leak or break where most everything else will pretty quick.

So I would go with more durable .......

When REOs first came out they were absolutely less hassle than the options available at the time but we have come a long way in 2 years so a lot of vape gear is hassle free no days.

But nothing is more convenient or bomb proof than a REO.