Why is silica even used?
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Thats kinda odd, i have one juice tbat actually turns everything black like soot almost. I burn it off the coils real good and rinse everything under water and the wick almost turns pure white again.
But whatever works for you..... Its all good
Personally i cant get past that cotton flavor, it tastes just like socks smell in a hot dryer. llol
Yup. Put me down in the silica camp. I never, ever could get past the cotton/sock flavor. I use a bit of rayon for certain applications but for 90% of my vaping it's silica. Beautiful, durable stuff. True, I could never pull 20mls of VG through it a day but I wouldn't want to live like that.
Only if you use too much! And that's "regular" cotton -- organic cotton really has no taste at all, when used in the proper amount.
Andria
I dont care what anyone says, ive bought so much of this brand and that type. To me its all hype, making vaping more work then it needs to be, now if yiu put some in and went wow what an incredible amount of flavor difference, it might be worth pursuing.
But taste is subjective, one person thinks a kayfun is gods gift to vaping but the person next to them thinks its muted and tasteless.
Too many times around here people find what they like best - for them- and then push it like it has to be the best for everyone else as well a good example is you and several others really like the magma. I bought 2 from the hype, there not bad by any stretch but overall i found them disappointing, and think i have other attys 10x. Better. Someone else comes along and thinks we are both off our rockers for our choices.
Probably because of its high heat tolerance.
Also, crystalline silica dust can cause silicosis, but the silica used in these wick is amorphous. However, amorphous silica may not be completely risk free (though it is safer than the crystalline form). You have to remember that workers or miners or whoever comes into contact with with raw silica are breathing in dried dust particles of the stuff. That's not what we're doing with e-cigs.
Also, in regard to cotton there's byssinosis which is just as nasty as silicosis. However, I severely doubt it would be an issue with vaping. Ever seen cotton or fabric workers? Yeah, they wear masks for a reason.
The people saying this or that about silica have never tried really good silica its almost as good as SS mesh hugely better than cotton.
It's no amateurs wick you have to have skills to get it in the coil and wick it. But once done properly you get flavor, longevity, and it wicks uber fast.. I vape 70 watts daily, chain vaping after drinking and never worry about if I burn the cotton. Errybody I know who vapes cotton burns their cotton drinking..
Pfft' "for noobs" no cotton is for noobs just make any ol' coil make a point pull it thru. Silica needs finesse.
SS mesh is easy if you clean it properly (bakingsoda/soap) and oxidize both your coil and mesh 5x with a torch, purge with water, and use hair fine strands of silica just very thin strands, wicks so fast its awesome.. Those who have never tried ss mesh -- cannot believe its that good, it is! --a whole nother level of cooking ejuice..
It's no amateurs wick you have to have skills to get it in the coil and wick it. But once done properly you get flavor, longevity, and it wicks uber fast.. I vape 70 watts daily, chain vaping after drinking and never worry about if I burn the cotton. Errybody I know who vapes cotton burns their cotton drinking..
Pfft' "for noobs" no cotton is for noobs just make any ol' coil make a point pull it thru. Silica needs finesse.
SS mesh is easy if you clean it properly (bakingsoda/soap) and oxidize both your coil and mesh 5x with a torch, purge with water, and use hair fine strands of silica just very thin strands, wicks so fast its awesome.. Those who have never tried ss mesh -- cannot believe its that good, it is! --a whole nother level of cooking ejuice..
Silica is easy to thread through your coils. If you cut a 8 or 10 inch piece and dip one end in bee's wax and roll it to a sharp point.
That exactly what I said, when I first tried organic cotton. Then when I tried some japanese organic cotton, I was expecting some big difference... and it's still just organic cotton.
The japanese stuff is easier and faster, and it does wick better, but with my thin juice, how well something wicks is somewhat irrelevant -- whether it's from a cotton ball or aligned fibers in a "pad," organic cotton still *tastes* like organic cotton. I don't get any offensive taste from it... but I do get a very offensive taste from rayon, which is supposed to be nearly *the 2nd coming* or something. But I went to organic cotton straight from silica and ekowool... and yeah, there's a TREMENDOUS improvement in flavor.Andria
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Been vaping for quite a while, it's nice to know that I'm still a new user.
There is a simple reason why I use silica wicks, they work.
My silica wicks last for months, instead of needing to be replaced every few days.
I do not miss silica one bit. I get much brighter flavor and better wicking with rayon.
With a silica wick if they get crudded up just soak in alcohol over night let dry for a day and good to go again. Now the little flavor wicky things they put on the top of a lot of silica coils do add flavor, burned flavor after a while. Just recoil/rewick with larger diameter silica and all is well without them. I like cotton because it is so easy and quick to rewick.WOW
Been vaping for quite a while, it's nice to know that I'm still a new user.
There is a simple reason why I use silica wicks, they work.
My silica wicks last for months, instead of needing to be replaced every few days.
I like the longevity of silica but I personally have a hard time getting it into coils. Let's face it, I hate building coils and everything that goes with it. I have gotten the Japanese cotton down pat so that is what I use.
I have used all the different types of wicking (except mesh and when the ceramic phase was in style) and what I've settled on works for me. I've encountered some initial tastes in each of the mediums, nothing that is so off putting that I couldn't get past the initial break in period.
Silica has been pretty much been ruled out as a danger. I should go find the microscope thread but I wouldn't even begin to know where to start looking. If you are using it to the point where there could possibly be any danger, you are running into danger by using a too dry coil anyway. Dry hits are the worst experience and generally that is not good no matter what you are using for wicking.
It's nice to see these topics come up every once in a while as there are new people that do not know. It helps to put their mind at ease
I have used all the different types of wicking (except mesh and when the ceramic phase was in style) and what I've settled on works for me. I've encountered some initial tastes in each of the mediums, nothing that is so off putting that I couldn't get past the initial break in period.
Silica has been pretty much been ruled out as a danger. I should go find the microscope thread but I wouldn't even begin to know where to start looking. If you are using it to the point where there could possibly be any danger, you are running into danger by using a too dry coil anyway. Dry hits are the worst experience and generally that is not good no matter what you are using for wicking.
It's nice to see these topics come up every once in a while as there are new people that do not know. It helps to put their mind at ease
Perhaps one's wicking preference is affected by their juice preference. If you are using dark or sweet liquids which tend to gunk up coils quickly, I can see how swapping out a new cotton or rayon wick would be the easiest way to manage that. As I use a clear lightly flavored liquid, I don't need to replace wicks or even do a mild dry burn for two or three weeks, so silica's longevity works well for me. Knowing that a slightly dry hit will cause no harm makes vaping easier for me too.
I am experimenting with rayon and think it will be useful for my heavier liquid binges.
Different strokes for different folks!
I am experimenting with rayon and think it will be useful for my heavier liquid binges.
Different strokes for different folks!
I just want to go on record as saying.............
Most of these type of threads are started due to not understanding the available information is from Industrial Work Standards. NOT consumer level usage.
Not just this thread, but most concerns over various items in use in vaping including but not limited to - Flavorings, Nicotine levels, Silica, Dry Burning, Synthetic wicking, Stainless Mesh, Etc.
Most of these type of threads are started due to not understanding the available information is from Industrial Work Standards. NOT consumer level usage.
Not just this thread, but most concerns over various items in use in vaping including but not limited to - Flavorings, Nicotine levels, Silica, Dry Burning, Synthetic wicking, Stainless Mesh, Etc.
But-but, AndriaD doesn't like the taste of rayon.
Nope... and all these folks saying that cotton tastes like socks, I have no idea what they're talking about.
Well actually I kinda do... when I first started trying cotton, and naturally used too much... it did kinda taste like I set my jeans on fire and then huffed 'em. That cotton yarn also kinda tasted like socks... but organic cotton really doesn't "taste" like anything.
Andria
I get a bit of new cotton flavor using the KGD cotton for a few puffs. But the cheapo salon coil cotton I use now does not give me that flavor. The first cotton I tried was in the jar in the bathroom and it was perfumed apparently and horrible.Nope... and all these folks saying that cotton tastes like socks, I have no idea what they're talking about.
That cotton yarn also kinda tasted like socks... but organic cotton really doesn't "taste" like anything.
Andria
My salon coil cotton is not organic and not even Japanese so I will likely die a horrible death.
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