If you take your average person and subtract his libido and increase his knowledge you have a better citizen.
Why X smokers don't vape.
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If I had quit smoking by other means, started vaping, but didn't really like it, but got that taste/feeling of a cigarette, but not quite, I'd probably go back to smoking...
I don't buy it.
So you quit smoking (a big deal) started vaping (complicated) started smoking again (drunk) and continued (......ed).
So you quit smoking (a big deal) started vaping (complicated) started smoking again (drunk) and continued (......ed).
Only if that old person is truly shallow.
Well thank you for re-iterating the lack of value we put on "old people" here in the US.
In many other cultures, they are venerated for their wisdom.
I can tell you that I have had more life and career experience at 61 than I did at 22......and with that came *learning*.....the hard way .
One of which was that you can't over-generalize when it comes to *people*.
Castrate children, put them in universities and wait for a golden age?
I think I've also had an interesting journey with vaping. What turned me off from vaping before was really just my first impressions on my first eGo style battery and CE4 clearomizer. I had gotten this in an attempt to quit smoking, and for the first few weeks, it was working, but I quickly noticed that my CE4 would often become harsh in the morning for a good hour when I would start to vape for the first time in the day, and sometimes that turned me off from even using the vape and just picking up a cigarette. For any first time vaper trying to get off stoges, I have to recommend that you enter the vaping world the right way, with a reliable, quality built VV mod. The sub-50 dollar starter kits just never did it for me. Although it's been a while since that time and now I'm full on into cloud chasing and I notice that starter kits are starting to offer better selections.
Only if that old person is truly shallow.
Well thank you for re-iterating the lack of value we put on "old people" here in the US.
In many other cultures, they are venerated for their wisdom.
I can tell you that I have had more life and career experience at 61 than I did at 22......and with that came *learning*.....the hard way .
One of which was that you can't over-generalize when it comes to *people*.
Do you really know if I am younger or older than you?
I am actually pretty drunk right now and I have no interest at all in getting my smokes from my sock drawer just three feet behind me.
Knowing I could do this thing that's kinda *like* smoking, but ISN'T smoking? I'd holler hallelujah and make tracks for the vape store! I quit drinking 22 yrs ago, and have come to enjoy the fact that I no longer have to obliterate my senses just to feel *complete*... but if there was suddenly a relatively-harmless way I could enjoy something *like* drinking, that WASN'T drinking? I'd holler hallelujah and go find me some!
No puritan here. I'm a hedonist to my fingernails, I just had to give up some of my pleasures when they started hurting me more than pleasing me.
Andria
PS: I'm perfectly serious -- in my early sobriety, I used to fantasize about the "synthehol" they drank on 10-Forward, wondering if it would wreck my sobriety, if such a thing really existed...
Well that is true. We don't hear from the Millions of people quit smoking before there were ecigs. I meet them all the time. At my age, many have been "quit" for 20+ years. Some longer.
Those people aren't on vaping forums.
I think it's important, when discussing something, to remember *where* you are when you are speaking and with whom you are conversing with. Pretty much everybody on this venue vapes and some vape and smoke.
So you make a good point. But there are no 20+ year quitters here, most likely. That *colors* the exchanges here.
They go stale overnight. Empty, flush, dry and then put in new liquid every morning!
If you subtract my libido, I don't care what you do to my knowledge, you and I are going to have serious issues
If you think this makes me a better citizen, well so be it ...
Only if that old person is truly shallow.
Well thank you for re-iterating the lack of value we put on "old people" here in the US.
In many other cultures, they are venerated for their wisdom.
I can tell you that I have had more life and career experience at 61 than I did at 22......and with that came *learning*.....the hard way .
One of which was that you can't over-generalize when it comes to *people*.
I agree, to some extant as it depends on the person. In my early twenties the Japanese engineers, at my plant, actually made me show them my license to prove my age as they all thought I was in my forties because of my knowledge and experience. Now I look back at my early self and realize how stupid regarding life and happiness my tweenty year old version was.
I guess I what I am trying to say is that, intelligent people can master content and subjects rapidly. However, it takes a lifetime to put it all together if your lucky.
That wouldn't matter, would it?
You said "Being old gives no rights but being old"
You could say that at 81, or at 21. The words would have the same meaning, regardless of your age, right?
I would not say I am drunk (just half a bottle of turkey 101), but I am not too sober. Too bad you are in Canada. Otherwise we (two aliens) could have solved all vaping problems with just a bit (bottle or two) of whisky.
Have a good night.
Knowing I could do this thing that's kinda *like* smoking, but ISN'T smoking? I'd holler hallelujah and make tracks for the vape store! I quit drinking 22 yrs ago, and have come to enjoy the fact that I no longer have to obliterate my senses just to feel *complete*... but if there was suddenly a relatively-harmless way I could enjoy something *like* drinking, that WASN'T drinking? I'd holler hallelujah and go find me some!
No puritan here. I'm a hedonist to my fingernails, I just had to give up some of my pleasures when they started hurting me more than pleasing me.
Andria
PS: I'm perfectly serious -- in my early sobriety, I used to fantasize about the "synthehol" they drank on 10-Forward, wondering if it would wreck my sobriety, if such a thing really existed...
There are alcohol vaporizers and a few other alcohol products that can give you a short lived buzz.
I think that is one of the best statements ever.....putting it all together. Not sure it's luck though.....I think you have to be the kind of person who actually "learns" from their experiences.
I've met many who haven't. Just like I've met many people who have "travelled the world" and seem to have no increase in perspective about other places, other cultures. It's weird, but there are those.......
I used to be able to do that. Now that I'm old, that amount of WT would put me in the hospital.
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