Why you shouldn't CHAIN vape

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Craybee

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It's my second day so far, chained vaped 9ml of 18mg nic yesterday. From posts I read it's quite normal to vape this amount if you're not smoking any analogues along with vaping. It should take me about a week to cut down.

i find the amount you vaped to be excessively high. i chain vape about a third of that amount a day at 18mg. i'd definitely get sick vaping that much nic at that strength.
 

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Give yourself some time to adjust. When I first transitioned to vaping I tended to over-vape plus I had a lot of side effects just from switching .. - de-tox from smoking, too. At first vaping made my throat a bit scratchy and dehydrated me. Now it doesn't .. I don't even need to drink extra water or anything. It took a few months, actually, to get fully acclimated to vaping.

But it's nothing to do with chain-vaping. As others have pointed out, it's just a matter of too much nicotine. I'm sure we all remember what it felt like if we chain-smoked too many cigarettes. So, quite obviously, don't ingest too much nicotine because it feels yucky.
 

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i chain vape often but i experienced all these symptoms. OMG i am going to DIE. someone call 119 oh no confusion call 191 crappp.

headache
runny nose
shortness of breath
tearing of the eyes
Abdominal or stomach pain
confusion
extreme exhaustion
belching
coughing
stomach discomfort
stuffy nose
Anxiety
back pain
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dizziness
general pain
hiccups
mental depression
passing of gas
problems with teeth
trouble with sleeping

ps these are common symptoms for anything not just nicotine so you can't easily associate any of these symptoms with chain vaping at all. people have different health problems that can cause most of these weather they vape or not.
 

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A little moderation is the key to most things in life
Moderation is for monks. :D

Since I normally use at least 4 devices (to rotate among 4 different flavors) throughout the day, it's difficult for me to keep track of exactly how much juice I go though in total, but it's probably close to 10 ml of 15 mg. Thing is, I'm not really chain-vaping most of the time, it's just that Kayfuns and BF RBAs can go through a lot of juice even if you don't chain vape. Moral of the story? When discussing juice consumption, the devices that you're using make a lot of difference.

Oh, and side effects? I do have a mildly runny nose sometimes.
 

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I think this thread should just be retitled, "Signs and Symptoms of Excessive Nicotine Intake". It is irritating to me when people make broad statments regarding vaping that do not take into account nicotine content, or for that matter, inhalation technique.

I chain vape zero nicotine from time to time. Side effect? Dry mouth.I am primarily a mouth/nose vaper. If you are having respiratory side effects, try reducing your inhalation frequency and depth. I get better tastes with most juices using mouth and nose anyway, and we have discussed that there should be plenty of nicotine absorbtion via oral mucosa.

Another potential change to be made to ease side effects is adjusting pg/vg ratio. It can change the dehydration/irritation issue.

The thing I really like about vaping is that not only is it harm reduction, but you can even harm reduce your harm reducer (how about that phrase? :) ) by adjusting nicotine content, pg/vg ratios and inhalation technique. Broad statements about potential vaping negatives are difficult to make with so many factors involved.
 

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I think we are all capable of regulating our nic levels and frequency without dire warnings on ECF. As another poster mentioned, this comes across as just another ANTZ rant that is so common on ECF.

With all due respect to your and other Experienced Vapers abilities, NEW and or short time Vapors do not necessarily have any clue as to what is what. Most can't get beyond making a clearo work, much less understand the science behind chemicals and human reactions to such.

I can hardly consider informative information as an ANTZ attack when it comes from another member that in no way says Vaping is Bad for you.

Anyone wishing to Debunk information with real data - I'm always looking for answers.

Again, When not working My PV's RARELY leave my Hand - But I know I have over vaped myself to the point of Nausea a few times.:blink:
 

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@crxess:

I do agree:
... NEW and or short time Vapors do not necessarily have any clue as to what is what.

... But I know I have over vaped myself to the point of Nausea a few times.

So have I. :)
And the natural reaction was to set the PV aside for like 30 minutes. - Same as pushing away my plate when I cannot fit any more food comfortably into my stomach. Or refusing the third glass of wine when my body tells me that I have had enough.

So, I do not agree with this statement:
... much less understand the science behind chemicals and human reactions to such.

How much science do you need to listen to your body telling you "You have had enough of this"? ;)
Long before you experience some really nasty effects?

I think mare ze dotes said it best:

I admit, That was a comprehensive list. I can vape myself nauseous, then again I could also smoke myself nauseous. I have in my lifetime also drank too much coffee or booze. That is no fun either. live and learn.

I may be old-fashioned. But whatever has become of listening to what your body is telling you, loud and clear? :)
 

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I was just showing the side effects that are backed up with scientific research. I'm not saying e-cigs are bad at all, but chain vaping in my opinion is not a good choice.


you're right. it's not a good choice … for you. if you can't make a rational decision to step down your nic levels or relegate your vaping then you really shouldn't be vaping at all. many things can be dangerous if you over indulge. and from your posts thus far this seems to have more to do with the lack of self control and common sense than the dangers of vaping.
 

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@crxess:

..........So, I do not agree with this statement:
... much less understand the science behind chemicals and human reactions to such.

.....How much science do you need to listen to your body telling you "You have had enough of this"? ;)
Long before you experience some really nasty effects?

Agreed, but saying <The Intelligence> tends to get people upset. :D

.......I may be old-fashioned. But whatever has become of listening to what your body is telling you, loud and clear? :)

Also Old Fashioned.......... and it seems we are on a totally different plain than the next generations. Not sure if it is a difference or Indifference.:blink:

Vape Safe
Vape Smart and Enjoy!:)
 

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You know, I was thinking about this a little more because this is definitely not the first post I've seen trying to warn people about overdoing it with nicotine, both here and on fbook. Poor thread title aside, some of this may be our(ECF and other vaping info sites) fault.

I started vaping a little over a year ago, and it was very common then to see posts telling new vapers to "vape more" or "raise your nic level" when they were having cravings. It was also very common for people to say "start at 24mg, or 36mg" to those just starting out. This was all good advice, as the first week or two seem to be the hardest.

The problem I see now is, devices have changed. While many may start off with a cig-a-like still, there are also many starting off with egos and apvs. More importantly, most aren't starting off with pre-filled carts or tank/cartridge systems. There's a huge difference between a blu carto and a nautilus/aero tank, or even with the current dual coil cartos out(some people still use cartos right?). Some new vapers are even starting off with dual coil rda's that shops are building for them(I wish they wouldn't).

I guess my point is, when giving advice to new vapers, it is increasingly important to find out what they will be vaping with, in addition to what kind of smoker they were. Also, it never hurts to remind people to be mindful of what their body is telling them, your drive thru coffee cup has the warning "Caution: contents are hot" for a reason.
 

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One poster referenced scaring off possible new Vapors.
The post could just as well offer Safe advice for a new convert to Vape in moderation - This is a Change from Smoking - as well as an understanding of what may be going on in their conversion attempt.
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I hope I didn't scare anyone away from vaping, with my post. Personally, I need to keep my behaviours in check. This goes for just about anything in my life: Over-doing in the gym, eating the wrong things, baking in the sun or drinking too much tea. My body tells me when it's had enough. The key is paying attention to those signs and backing off.
 
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The problem I see now is, devices have changed. While many may start off with a cig-a-like still, there are also many starting off with egos and apvs. More importantly, most aren't starting off with pre-filled carts or tank/cartridge systems. There's a huge difference between a blu carto and a nautilus/aero tank, or even with the current dual coil cartos out(some people still use cartos right?). Some new vapers are even starting off with dual coil rda's that shops are building for them(I wish they wouldn't).

I guess my point is, when giving advice to new vapers, it is increasingly important to find out what they will be vaping with, in addition to what kind of smoker they were. Also, it never hurts to remind people to be mindful of what their body is telling them, ....

Oh my goodness gracious! :ohmy:
Thank you for pointing this out. I will most definitely heed your caution and keep it in mind.
To use a car analogy: when I first got my driving license, I most certainly did not start out with a Porsche :ohmy:
Thank you for pointing this out!
 
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