WIP DNA20 Compact 18650 Mod

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Will the files for this eventually be released? I would seriously consider ponying up the cash to have this machined out of aluminum from a shop like this.

Probably not files and definitely not emachineshop files because I hate their software and I can't get any of my stuff to import into their software.

But you may see something similar available someday ;)
 

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Have you had a chance to use the 26650 batt with the DNA20D yet, bap? I'm curious what results you get. I have 3 of the MNKE IMR 26650 batts. With one, it cuts out at 3.7v, another cuts out at 3.9v and the 3rd one cuts out at 4.0v. This batt is suppose to have a 20A max discharge current, so these results are weird. I know vaping at 15 watts like I do will cut down on the vape time, but I should be able to vape at this wattage and not have the batts cut out on me at a higher voltage. Frustrating. :laugh:

With my Denali DNA20D the dual 18650 AW IMR batts cut out at 3.4v (without fuses) and 3.54v (with fuses). Either of those cutouts is acceptable and expected, but the cutout of the 26650 batts at higher voltages has me thinking they really don't have a 20A max discharge current.
 

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Have you had a chance to use the 26650 batt with the DNA20D yet, bap? I'm curious what results you get. I have 3 of the MNKE IMR 26650 batts. With one, it cuts out at 3.7v, another cuts out at 3.9v and the 3rd one cuts out at 4.0v. This batt is suppose to have a 20A max discharge current, so these results are weird. I know vaping at 15 watts like I do will cut down on the vape time, but I should be able to vape at this wattage and not have the batts cut out on me at a higher voltage. Frustrating. :laugh:

With my Denali DNA20D the dual 18650 AW IMR batts cut out at 3.4v (without fuses) and 3.54v (with fuses). Either of those cutouts is acceptable and expected, but the cutout of the 26650 batts at higher voltages has me thinking they really don't have a 20A max discharge current.

I haven't yet. I have been waiting on some lathe tooling and time to finish up the mod.

But I don't like the way that sounds!!! Kind of sounds like the voltage is really sagging under load.

Have you tried turning down the wattage after it hits the cutoff?
 

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I can vape with the batt longer if I turn down the wattage. But that does me no good cuz I need 15 watts. :laugh:

This is my Sam mod with the 26650 batt - the one where I was having trouble with repeated weak/check battery messages even at full charge. I replaced the batt contacts with Keystone's C batt contacts which helped, but the batt still cuts out long before it should.

I know the DNA20D is a current hog, especially at the watts I vape at, but the batt shouldn't be cutting out as early as it does which makes me think it's not really 20A as advertised. Especially since I'm not having this problem with the dual 18650 IMR batts with a rating of 10A each for a total of 20A.
 

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I'm really skeptical of all the round cells and it sounds like these supposedly awesome batteries can't handle anywhere close to 20a if you can turn it down and it works fine.

When you had it soldered did it give you the same issues?

I guess I'm kind of hoping its still a contact issue, but that is unlikely I know :(

In other news I got the Xtar SP2 and it is awesome!!! Love me some 2a charging :D
 

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When I had the batt soldered in I vaped with it for maybe 3-4 hours and had no issues so then figured it was a batt contact problem. I didn't vape til it cut out. So think I will re-solder the batt back in and find out what the min voltage is til it cuts out and compare the two and that way I will know for sure what's up. It's interesting though that I'm not getting any issues at all with the dual 18650 batts.
 

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Mamu....hurry vape, hurry, hurry :lol:

I have plan B figured out for me.....4 x 1000mah nano's fit pretty swell

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Very nice . I want to see more. I have a cnc in my garage its in parts right now. I have been too busy to put it back together after moving to my new house . I also want to change it a bit before setting it up to run again before, it could only cut foam and wood. Now I want to cut soft metals . But having access to a 3D printer must be pretty cool. Would be faster to build to mods to use . This makes me want mine running bad.
 

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Not good news with this 26650 batt. With it soldered in it cut out completely at 3.67v while vaping at 15 watts, but I started getting repeated check/weak batt messages around 3.9v so the vape was cutting in and out from 3.9v to 3.67v. argh! :laugh:

So it does seem to be a problem with the batt itself and not the contacts. It should cut out at least at 3.5v like the dual 18650 batts if it really is 20A and holding up to the current draw when not at full charge.
 

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If that graph is accurate I think you found a winner....however did find a place to buy them?

edit- second link dumdum :facepalm:

On a search now for a better 26650 batt and found this... MOLI IMR-26700A

40A max discharge rating
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Only 2900mAh instead of 3500-4000mAh and 5mm longer than the MNKE one, but wowza 40A! :D

MOLI IMR-26700A
 
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